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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby IAmAMunchlax » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:45 pm

IAmAMunchlax wrote:The only way that these results are fake is if there's a day Prankster, other than that these results are from a player, scum or town.

This made more sense in my head. What I mean is that these results are from a player. Not Metrion.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby TheParanoidAndroid » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:48 pm

FMLSheWas12 wrote:Let's get down to the basics.

Firstly if you genuinely believe a moderated role is handing out free irrefutable investigative information you need to be checked. :)

Secondly if the parity cop were town, they would CLAIM. If the "parity cop" isn't truthful, this is likely what's going to happen. The town will blindly follow the parity cop (which is what's happening now what a shocker) and lynch two people based off false evidence. If this ends up being horribly destructive we cannot find the perpetrator.

Does nobody understand this? Does nobody care?


What. Are you saying we shouldn't? Worst case, they're lying and we lose multiple town, then we know never to listen to them. Well, real worst case there's a Framer, but you get it. Best case, we have a 50-50 chance of hitting free scum with no town deaths.
There's multiple reasons why the parity cop wouldn't claim.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby STAA » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:49 pm

FMLSheWas12 wrote:Let's get down to the basics.

Firstly if you genuinely believe a moderated role is handing out free irrefutable investigative information you need to be checked. :)

Secondly if the parity cop were town, they would CLAIM. If the "parity cop" isn't truthful, this is likely what's going to happen. The town will blindly follow the parity cop (which is what's happening now what a shocker) and lynch two people based off false evidence. If this ends up being horribly destructive we cannot find the perpetrator.

Does nobody understand this? Does nobody care?


So, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying that we're following Mel, the "parity cop", in an attempt to get Erravi lynched, (and also me killed as a result), because of fake evidence, and if we don't then Scum wins because we just keep lynching Town at the will of Mel who's the "parity cop"?

Like I said, correct me if I'm wrong, and also I do care.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby Hiphoplog » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:51 pm

FMLSheWas12 wrote:Let's get down to the basics.

Firstly if you genuinely believe a moderated role is handing out free irrefutable investigative information you need to be checked. :)

Secondly if the parity cop were town, they would CLAIM. If the "parity cop" isn't truthful, this is likely what's going to happen. The town will blindly follow the parity cop (which is what's happening now what a shocker) and lynch two people based off false evidence. If this ends up being horribly destructive we cannot find the perpetrator.

Does nobody understand this? Does nobody care?


[sarcasm]Yes the anonymous cop should definitely claim.[/sarcasm]
For one any cop that can reveal info without revealing is very good (granted probably 1-2 shot or some insane 3 day cool down).
Outing them won't really do much other than confirm a town. Which we can also do just by seeing you if one flips scum.
The former outs 2 town and a scum, the later either kills a scum and town or 2 town plus the information that a prankster is in play.
Honestly it's a lot better to take the risk of believing the anonymous cop than outing them.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby ShortcutButton » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:52 pm

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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby TheParanoidAndroid » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:53 pm

STAA wrote:
TheCow wrote:The parity cop exists, stop looking for it.


Why are you so sure?


Have you ever seen TheCow and the parity cop in the same room? #spooky
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby STAA » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:54 pm

TheParanoidAndroid wrote:
STAA wrote:
TheCow wrote:The parity cop exists, stop looking for it.


Why are you so sure?


Have you ever seen TheCow and the parity cop in the same room? #spooky


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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby TheParanoidAndroid » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:55 pm

Could be they're oneshot as well.

STAA wrote:
TheParanoidAndroid wrote:
STAA wrote:
TheCow wrote:The parity cop exists, stop looking for it.


Why are you so sure?


Have you ever seen TheCow and the parity cop in the same room? #spooky


Actually no. This is my first time playing FM on this forum.


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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby STAA » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:57 pm

TheParanoidAndroid wrote:Could be they're oneshot as well.

STAA wrote:
TheParanoidAndroid wrote:
STAA wrote:
TheCow wrote:The parity cop exists, stop looking for it.


Why are you so sure?


Have you ever seen TheCow and the parity cop in the same room? #spooky


Actually no. This is my first time playing FM on this forum.




Let's see... Maybe because the last game of FM I ever played ended with me getting IP-Banned for reporting mods/admins for cheating/gamethrowing, and that left a really sour taste in my mouth about FM. I'm frankly surprised I even decided to join this game in the first place.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:00 pm

Just the idea of a day parity cop makes me skeptical. It's super powerful, you can publically confirm people as town or scum. Unless there's a day consort of something. :roll:
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby Hiphoplog » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:03 pm

ICECLIMBERS wrote:Just the idea of a day parity cop makes me skeptical. It's super powerful, you can publically confirm people as town or scum. Unless there's a day consort of something. :roll:


I mean powerful roles have restrictions usually.
Either a cooldown or charge is most common.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:06 pm

Let's start with actual scummy people
TrueGent- has done hardly anything but glibly state that others are town. Coasting at its finest. My eye is on him.
SirCakez- Keeps scumreading people for reasoning that I don't find very strong. Then he keeps flipping on the parity cop stuff. He believes the hydra claim, then states that both can be town, then leyva makes some post and then e swaps his vote to Erravi, then still wants the parity cop to out even though he believes the results. K.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:08 pm

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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby ShortcutButton » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:09 pm

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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby milte345 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:16 pm

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besides my dumb game when has there last been whispers?

Cakez' dumb game

that's cakez I meant someone sane
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby WindBlqde » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:21 pm

Wait, I have to read 20 pages?
If I could just have a short summary?
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby SirCakez » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:26 pm

ICECLIMBERS wrote:Let's start with actual scummy people
TrueGent- has done hardly anything but glibly state that others are town. Coasting at its finest. My eye is on him.
SirCakez- Keeps scumreading people for reasoning that I don't find very strong. Then he keeps flipping on the parity cop stuff. He believes the hydra claim, then states that both can be town, then leyva makes some post and then e swaps his vote to Erravi, then still wants the parity cop to out even though he believes the results. K.

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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby TheWolfBuddy » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:50 pm

STAA wrote:
TheParanoidAndroid wrote:Could be they're oneshot as well.

STAA wrote:
TheParanoidAndroid wrote:
STAA wrote:
TheCow wrote:The parity cop exists, stop looking for it.


Why are you so sure?


Have you ever seen TheCow and the parity cop in the same room? #spooky


Actually no. This is my first time playing FM on this forum.




Let's see... Maybe because the last game of FM I ever played ended with me getting IP-Banned for reporting mods/admins for cheating/gamethrowing, and that left a really sour taste in my mouth about FM. I'm frankly surprised I even decided to join this game in the first place.


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frop418 wrote:What do you guys find scummy about Sevo?

What do you think of S0me0ne's opinion on Sevo?

He pointed a lot of interesting points.


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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby melanora » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:00 pm

Don't ask for a summary. Read the fucking game.

And STAA, what even?


Oh my god, moderator handing out information? It's a full fucking closed game. It could be a mechanic. It's something to rile us up. It didn't confirm anyone was town or mafia or neutral or anything - it just stated a fact.

SHIT IT COULD BE MY ABILITY FOR ALL I KNOW since I don't know what it is - it just shows whoever I voted for, saying whether we are the same alignment or different. WHO KNOWS.

The point is, Cyan was acting scum BEFORE we got this information, and continued to act scummy since then.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby moonbird » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:14 pm

The point is, Cyan was acting like this neighborhood did exist before the cop check, and I'm yet to see a solid case on Cyan aside from Cow's.

I'd rather lynch Mel in this exchange over Cyan.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby STAA » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:18 pm

TheWolfBuddy wrote:
STAA wrote:
TheParanoidAndroid wrote:Could be they're oneshot as well.

STAA wrote:
TheParanoidAndroid wrote:
STAA wrote:
TheCow wrote:The parity cop exists, stop looking for it.


Why are you so sure?


Have you ever seen TheCow and the parity cop in the same room? #spooky


Actually no. This is my first time playing FM on this forum.




Let's see... Maybe because the last game of FM I ever played ended with me getting IP-Banned for reporting mods/admins for cheating/gamethrowing, and that left a really sour taste in my mouth about FM. I'm frankly surprised I even decided to join this game in the first place.


modkill yourself please


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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby Hiphoplog » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:18 pm

From what I understand it's not a neighborhood.
They literally share a role. Both of them have the same cahracter and that's the reason for the hood. So it's not AI if anything it's indicative they are scum because every other Hydra ran in FM has been neutral.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby RetralMega » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:20 pm

Just woke up. Caught up. Everything in the spoiler below.
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STAA wrote:Also, at some point, someone bolded something in a quote of mine.

RetralMega wrote:
STAA wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:
Erravi wrote:Secondly, 'they are distancing without a valid reason' is contradictory and shows little thought.

You interpreted Short wrong. To my understanding he believes that STAA voted Mel for no reason and there's no town perspective. He also thinks they're distancing.


Are we now dismissing my reasoning of it was a gut feeling?

And does anyone have a problem if I actually am distancing?

And why aren't we bothering to ask the one person who knows the answer to me distancing?

I just really don't like this. Town wouldn't have to distance from anyone. Scum would to make it seem like you're not scumbuddies with someone.

I'll wait to see how this plays out before I vote.

That was me.


As for the whole Mel and Erravi have different win conditions thing...
What if Mel is Town and Erravi / STAA are basically Survivors / Neutrals that win with Town and we're about to lynch one of them for no reason other than assumptions?
Also, anyone saying if we lynch Erravi / STAA, we're losing two Town, you're stupid. They're a Hydra. They're both one person. It's mathematically the same as lynching Mel.
I want to lynch STAA for that pathetic excuse of 'my little brother did it'. That's fucking pathetic and he deserves to be lynched just for that, really.

melanora wrote:Nope. I win with majority. My name title matches the colour of majority.

Did Mel just say her color was the same as Majority? Name color means nothing. It's flavor. Why the fuck were you people voting for her over that?
So Erravi says their votes count as one together, and STAA says if we lynch them, we lose two votes. Scumslip.
Sorry you got paired with such a shitty scumbuddy, Erravi.
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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby TheWolfBuddy » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:22 pm

STAA wrote:
TheWolfBuddy wrote:
STAA wrote:
TheParanoidAndroid wrote:Could be they're oneshot as well.

STAA wrote:
TheParanoidAndroid wrote:
STAA wrote:
TheCow wrote:The parity cop exists, stop looking for it.


Why are you so sure?


Have you ever seen TheCow and the parity cop in the same room? #spooky


Actually no. This is my first time playing FM on this forum.




Let's see... Maybe because the last game of FM I ever played ended with me getting IP-Banned for reporting mods/admins for cheating/gamethrowing, and that left a really sour taste in my mouth about FM. I'm frankly surprised I even decided to join this game in the first place.


modkill yourself please


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frop418 wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:
frop418 wrote:What do you guys find scummy about Sevo?

What do you think of S0me0ne's opinion on Sevo?

He pointed a lot of interesting points.


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Re: SFM24 | Chrono Fiction | Day 1 (Into The Thick Of It)

Postby STAA » Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:27 pm

RetralMega wrote:Just woke up. Caught up. Everything in the spoiler below.
Spoiler:
STAA wrote:Also, at some point, someone bolded something in a quote of mine.

RetralMega wrote:
STAA wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:
Erravi wrote:Secondly, 'they are distancing without a valid reason' is contradictory and shows little thought.

You interpreted Short wrong. To my understanding he believes that STAA voted Mel for no reason and there's no town perspective. He also thinks they're distancing.


Are we now dismissing my reasoning of it was a gut feeling?

And does anyone have a problem if I actually am distancing?

And why aren't we bothering to ask the one person who knows the answer to me distancing?

I just really don't like this. Town wouldn't have to distance from anyone. Scum would to make it seem like you're not scumbuddies with someone.

I'll wait to see how this plays out before I vote.

That was me.


As for the whole Mel and Erravi have different win conditions thing...
What if Mel is Town and Erravi / STAA are basically Survivors / Neutrals that win with Town and we're about to lynch one of them for no reason other than assumptions?
Also, anyone saying if we lynch Erravi / STAA, we're losing two Town, you're stupid. They're a Hydra. They're both one person. It's mathematically the same as lynching Mel.
I want to lynch STAA for that pathetic excuse of 'my little brother did it'. That's fucking pathetic and he deserves to be lynched just for that, really.

melanora wrote:Nope. I win with majority. My name title matches the colour of majority.

Did Mel just say her color was the same as Majority? Name color means nothing. It's flavor. Why the fuck were you people voting for her over that?
So Erravi says their votes count as one together, and STAA says if we lynch them, we lose two votes. Scumslip.
Sorry you got paired with such a shitty scumbuddy, Erravi.
If this is how you play, maybe you should back to Town of Salem, STAA.


Honestly, the way how votes between me and Erravi NEVER GOT EXPLAINED CLEARLY. ALL OF IT HAS BEEN VAGUE EXPLANATIONS.

Also, we're not a Hydra, looked up the definition for a refresher: "A hydra is an account that is controlled by multiple players"

If we were to ask me what Erravi's password is, I wouldn't know, likewise for Erravi knowing my password, so we aren't a Hydra.

Me and Erravi don't control the same account.
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