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[Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Game Over [Town wins!]

Postby Lexiam » Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:16 pm

Newcomer Forum Mafia


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General Rules:

  1. Be respectful. Should be self-explanatory. No tolerance against racial/homophobic/sexist remarks. If you feel this rule isn't being followed, PM me.
  2. Do not discuss the game outside of the thread unless otherwise stated.
  3. Do not quote any messages from / conversations with the moderator.
  4. Do not gamethrow. Always work towards your faction's goals.
  5. If you are inactive for more than 36 hours, you will receive a prod, and have 18 hours to reply. If you do not reply within 18 hours, you will be removed. However if your posts are found to not actually try to include content to futher the game, they will not count towards resetting the prod timer. Said content is evaluated under the moderator's discretion. You will be told if your post is valid or not.
  6. Quoting and then editing another player's post for the purpose of misleading is prohibited. Editing to simply cut down the post content to what is relevant is allowed.
  7. Be sure to look at ObiWan's Rules for more info, some of the rolecards that will be used and the ECO if you don't know how a situation is handled. The FM Academy can also be a good read.
  8. Lastly, If you have any questions, feel free to ask the moderator. We'll be glad to answer any doubts you may have.

Invest Results
Spoiler: Citizen/Witch/Serial Killer
Investigator/Marshal/Consigliere
Escort/Lookout/Consort
Bodyguard/Vigilante/Blackmailer
Medium/Doctor/Mafioso/Janitor
Veteran/Sheriff/Agent
Framer


Sheriff Results:
Spoiler: Your target is Not Suspicious.
Your target is a member of the Mafia!
Your target is the Serial Killer!


Unique roles
Spoiler: Veteran, Mafioso, Witch, Serial Killer.

Role Pairings
Spoiler: Town Investigative (Investigator/Lookout/Sheriff)
Town Protective (Marshal/Bodyguard/Doctor)
Town Support (Medium/Escort)
Town Killing (Vigilante/Veteran)

Mafia Tactical (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support (Consort/Consigliere/Agent)
Mafia Deception (Janitor/Framer)


Vigilante Rolecard change
Spoiler: Vigilante

You are a Vigilante.

Your alignment is Town Killing.

You believe that the law of this town is useless against the evil-doers in your town and have decided to take matters into your own hands.

Each night you may decide to shoot and kill one town member you believe to be evil.
However, if the person you shoot turns out to be Town, you will be overcome with grief and vow never to shoot again.
You only have 3 bullets, allowing you to perform your night action up to 3 times. Make them count.
You may shoot on the first night.

You win with the Town
You must kill the Mafia
You must kill Witches
You must kill the Serial Killer.
You may spare anyone else
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Set Up Phase

Postby Lexiam » Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:20 pm

Rolelist:
Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Mafia Support
Random Mafia
Random Mafia


Witch
Serial Killer



Live Player list
1. eeelneekey
2. TheForgot3n1
4. lijik
11. NoodleLick
12. mihail66


Graveyard
Babynora’s Dirty Diapers
17. Silverspots - Lynched D1 - Citizen
6. RAmcius - Killed N1 by Mafia - CLEANED
10. TazmanianBrit - Killed N1 by Serial Killer - Investigator
14. James2 - Lynched D2 - Serial Killer
8. TopkekeroniXX - Killed N2 by Mafia - CLEANED
13. cmitc1 - Lynched D3 - Witch
5. RajolAttates - Lynched D4 - Citizen
9. FrostyFox64 Varanus - Killed by Mafia N4 - Citizen
3. Schultz128 - Lynched D5 - Janitor
16. jakob12341 AyyItsAiden HalkInHunt - Modkilled D6 - Citizen
7. riotheninja deathghost12 - Lynched D6 - Consigliere
15. Tiltedcomedian - Lynched D7 - Blackmailer



Timeline of Events
Day 1 Begins
Night 1 Begins
Day 2 Begins
Night 2 Begins
Day 3 Begins
Night 3 Begins
Day 4 Begins
Night 4 Begins
Day 5 Begins
Night 5 Begins
Day 6 Begins
Night 6 Begins
Day 7 Begins
Game Over


ISOs
Melanora [Moderator]
Lexiam [Co-Host]
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lijik
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RAmcius
riotheninja deathghost12
TopkekeroniXX
FrostyFox64 Varanus
TazmanianBrit
NoodleLick
mihail66
cmitc1
James2
Tiltedcomedian
jakob12341 AyyItsAiden HalkInHunt
Silverspots
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Set Up Phase

Postby melanora » Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:22 pm

Introduction and Mechanics


*If you are new to FM, please read EVERYTHING below! This is very important information*


First of all, welcome to NFM. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia), with, most of the time, a third-party (neutrals) trying to fulfill their own goals along the way. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-foward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team, and all neutrals with a night killing ability (Neutral Killings). While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • The former is when the players post on the game thread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. The days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player reaches majority, they are automatically lynched, there is no trial phase. When a player is lynched, they are immediately removed from the game, with their role and **last will (if they have one) being shown to public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it **(unless jailed). **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

Notes
**There are no Last Wills or Death Notes this game
**Jailor may not roll in this set-up
**Mafia have Day Chat for this game
**There are no whispers present in this game.


The game will only end once one of the major factions (or a NK) fulfills their condition.


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When sending me the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
"NFM Night Action" for Night Actions.

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Mafia Tactical is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.

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Terminology.

General terms:

Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors.
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Last Will: A personal "diary", per see, in which the player may choose to write whatever they consider relevant. Automatically revealed upon death.

Slightly more uncommon terms:

FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.
IC - Inexperienced Challenged. A term used to describe the experienced players who sign up for NFMs as representatives.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night, the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to progress discussion in a fashion which will be benefitial to the town, try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post reads regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

Playing as Neutral

Witch is the only neutral available to roll. Their goal and play style is a mix between that of the Town and Mafia. They want to be actively hunting scum and trying to figure out who they win with and who they don't, applying one of the best night actions in the game accordingly; either to get into contact or to severely hinder. However they do not want to be getting scum lynched themselves, so they also have to play similar to the Mafia in the regard that they do want the town to be successful. Above all they need to look out for number 1; themselves.


Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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For anything else, feel free to ask me in a PM, or in the thread, or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Set Up Phase

Postby melanora » Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:53 pm

All rolecards have been submitted. Please follow the instructions within. Once all slots have been confirmed, the game will begin.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Set Up Phase

Postby melanora » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:54 pm

Seven players did not confirm their slot, and will therefore be replaced. Standby as we await the replacements to confirm.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Set Up Phase

Postby melanora » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:11 pm

Three more slots did not confirm. I have a backup of one person just in case, so the game WILL be starting in the next 24 hours. Thank you for your patience.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby melanora » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:17 pm

It's a world of laughter, a world of tears
It's a world of hope and a world of fears
There's so much that we share, that it's time we're aware
It's a small world after all



Day One Begins. You have 120 Hours.
Day One will end Sunday August 25th at 10:30 PM EST.



Reminders:
There is a Day One Lynch.
Mafia does have Day Chat.
There is no Last Wills, Whispers, or Death Notes.
If you have a specific question about your role, send me a PM.
If you have a specific question about a mechanic in the game, you may ask in the thread, or send me a PM.
As always, you can normally find a game mod in the discord chat.

Have fun, and good luck!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby cmitc1 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:29 pm

Hey everyone, I am excited to be playing with you guys :D
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby RajolAttates » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:30 pm

Hello everyone! Nice to meet you all!
Pretty excited for my first FM game.
Newbie on the forums. Nice to meet ya!

I prefer to be called Tates. Thank you very much.

On Discord, name's Tates and the avatar's the same.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby Schultz128 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:33 pm

I'm not exactly new to Forum Mafia, but I know I will fail miserably, regardless of my alignment.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby eeelneekey » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:36 pm

Hey guys! Can't wait to start :)
It's like 3am here and my friend is moving into our new flat tomorrow so just in case I'm not online much, I'll say right now that I'm 100% in favour of a D1 lynch (mathematically we're much more likely to hit scum or a citizen than a PR, and even in the worst case scenario we DO hit town, it'll help us clear up the rolelist & eliminate claimspace for scum), and I'd rather townies didn't claim witched at least until lategame (Mafia can use their daychat to coordinate a non-witched member of the mafia to claim witched, to signal her). What does everyone else think?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby cmitc1 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:40 pm

Schultz128 wrote:I'm not exactly new to Forum Mafia, but I know I will fail miserably, regardless of my alignment.


you will get the hang of it, everyone learns at a different rate.


eeelneekey wrote:Hey guys! Can't wait to start :)
It's like 3am here and my friend is moving into our new flat tomorrow so just in case I'm not online much, I'll say right now that I'm 100% in favour of a D1 lynch (mathematically we're much more likely to hit scum or a citizen than a PR, and even in the worst case scenario we DO hit town, it'll help us clear up the rolelist & eliminate claimspace for scum), and I'd rather townies didn't claim witched at least until lategame (Mafia can use their daychat to coordinate a non-witched member of the mafia to claim witched, to signal her). What does everyone else think?



we dont lynch for math(well i guess we kinda do), but we mainly lynch for associations.

lets say, Player C was hard core pushing player A's lynch, and he flips mafia. Are you going to think Player C is scum after that? nobody in the right mind would, so it helps us narrow down who we should look into.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby lijik » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:44 pm

eeelneekey wrote:Hey guys! Can't wait to start :)
It's like 3am here and my friend is moving into our new flat tomorrow so just in case I'm not online much, I'll say right now that I'm 100% in favour of a D1 lynch (mathematically we're much more likely to hit scum or a citizen than a PR, and even in the worst case scenario we DO hit town, it'll help us clear up the rolelist & eliminate claimspace for scum), and I'd rather townies didn't claim witched at least until lategame (Mafia can use their daychat to coordinate a non-witched member of the mafia to claim witched, to signal her). What does everyone else think?

I 100% agree with you. Not trying to sheep your opinions, but I couldn't of said it better. I am all in favor of a day 1 Lynch and against claiming witched.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby TopkekeroniXX » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:45 pm

Hello everyone. Good to be town again.

I'm voting for the first person to post after me.
FM record: 3 - 2 - 0
Spoiler: NFM27: Consigliere | Survived | Mafia + Witch Win
NFM30: Citizen | Died N2 | Town Win
SFM23: Citizen | Lynched D1 | British Mafia Win
NFM32: Serial Killer | Lynched D2 | Town Win
TFM32: Blue Leader | Survived | Blue Team Win
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby cmitc1 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:47 pm

/Vote TopekerinoXX
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby cmitc1 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:51 pm

looks like you have been staring at this for a while...opkek........

did I scare you? :?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby TopkekeroniXX » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:53 pm

cmitc1 wrote:/Vote TopekerinoXX


So it begins.

/vote cmitc1

You can call me Topkek.

Regarding a day 1 lynch: I'm generally opposed to it because it previous games it doesn't work well, but I will abide if there's a very strong case or if there's a lot of information to be gained.
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Spoiler: NFM27: Consigliere | Survived | Mafia + Witch Win
NFM30: Citizen | Died N2 | Town Win
SFM23: Citizen | Lynched D1 | British Mafia Win
NFM32: Serial Killer | Lynched D2 | Town Win
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby cmitc1 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:55 pm

TopkekeroniXX wrote:
cmitc1 wrote:/Vote TopekerinoXX


So it begins.

/vote cmitc1

You can call me Topkek.

Regarding a day 1 lynch: I'm generally opposed to it because it previous games it doesn't work well, but I will abide if there's a very strong case or if there's a lot of information to be gained.


We are 100% for sure lynching today. We need the information from associations.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby riotheninja » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:55 pm

/vote Topkekeroni

This is my very first FM game :)
I AM A GIRL. PLEASE DO NOT REFER TO ME AS "HE" OR "HIM"
Thank you <3

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Jailor, Investigator, Escort, Consigliere, Consort, Janitor, Veteran, Executioner, Vampire, and Jester.

Least Favorite Roles:
Medium, Lookout, Mayor, Godfather, Disguiser, Werewolf, Serial Killer, Arsonist, and Survivor.

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0-0-0
Spoiler: NFM30: Ongoing.
SFM22: Killed by werewolves N2, Ongoing, Role - Consigliere.
TFM30: Lynched D1, Ongoing, Role - Citizen.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby TopkekeroniXX » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:56 pm

Good thing I'm already voting for you, then.
FM record: 3 - 2 - 0
Spoiler: NFM27: Consigliere | Survived | Mafia + Witch Win
NFM30: Citizen | Died N2 | Town Win
SFM23: Citizen | Lynched D1 | British Mafia Win
NFM32: Serial Killer | Lynched D2 | Town Win
TFM32: Blue Leader | Survived | Blue Team Win
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby cmitc1 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:59 pm

riotheninja wrote:/vote Topkekeroni

This is my very first FM game :)


I like you already :D


also, please understand, this game is based on what you say and do, rather than night actions.


for example, I am getting a town lean on you for not being afraid to throw your vote as a newbie :P .
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby TopkekeroniXX » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:01 pm

riotheninja wrote:/vote Topkekeroni

This is my very first FM game :)


This is what's known as "sheeping".

See, we're building associations already without needing a lynch.
FM record: 3 - 2 - 0
Spoiler: NFM27: Consigliere | Survived | Mafia + Witch Win
NFM30: Citizen | Died N2 | Town Win
SFM23: Citizen | Lynched D1 | British Mafia Win
NFM32: Serial Killer | Lynched D2 | Town Win
TFM32: Blue Leader | Survived | Blue Team Win
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby TopkekeroniXX » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:03 pm

Anyway, cmitc1, you're either a cit not afraid to draw attention to himself of scum playing boldly. I'm leaning toward the latter.
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Spoiler: NFM27: Consigliere | Survived | Mafia + Witch Win
NFM30: Citizen | Died N2 | Town Win
SFM23: Citizen | Lynched D1 | British Mafia Win
NFM32: Serial Killer | Lynched D2 | Town Win
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby cmitc1 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:04 pm

TopkekeroniXX wrote:
riotheninja wrote:/vote Topkekeroni

This is my very first FM game :)


This is what's known as "sheeping".

See, we're building associations already without needing a lynch.




without confirmed flips, the associations are useless.

please, dont make the noob mistake of thinking we should not lynch d1.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM30 | Day One [ it's a small world... ]

Postby James2 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:06 pm

Hello all.

Standard practice in an NFM game is for everyone to claim their role immediately on day one, before Mafia have a chance to communicate with each other. So please everyone claim your roles ASAP.

I'm a citizen.
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