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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby ObiWan » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:33 pm

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Animate |1| Unorthodox

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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Unorthodox1337 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:34 pm

Varanus wrote:The traitor is the mafia's factional kill.


Wtf
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Varanus » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:34 pm

chitownmvp01 wrote:
Varanus wrote:The traitor is the mafia's factional kill.

So the Traitor is included in the Mafia chat then?

No. The traitor is told the identities of the members of the mafia. That is all.
Mafia do not know which is the traitor.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby cmitc1 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:35 pm

@Varanus

can the traitor target fellow mafia members?
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Unorthodox1337 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:35 pm

cmitc1 wrote:@Varanus

can the traitor target fellow mafia members?


of course
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby SarahSaurus » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:36 pm

So okay. If we tell 1 of them to shoot tonight, and tell the other one to stay home...Then what? Just use scumreading after that? The linchpin only gets 1 shot, so if they use it tonight, they're out. If you give the traitor a target tonight, then they'll just claim to be out of bullets after that

Just making sure we're all on the same page?
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Unorthodox1337 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:36 pm

SirCakez wrote:Ahhhh my brain hurts from this
Going to bed


traitor claim.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Animate » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:37 pm

Wait, never mind, there's still an element of uncertainty. If the assigned target is town and the assigned killer is the traitor, then that wouldn't prove anything. If both are town, the traitor can just opt to not kill. This can go on for enough times to lose majority.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Unorthodox1337 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:37 pm

SarahSaurus wrote:So okay. If we tell 1 of them to shoot tonight, and tell the other one to stay home...Then what? Just use scumreading after that? The linchpin only gets 1 shot, so if they use it tonight, they're out. If you give the traitor a target tonight, then they'll just claim to be out of bullets after that

Just making sure we're all on the same page?


We get control of the first 2 days then Sarah.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby chitownmvp01 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:38 pm

Uno I understand your point. I'm tired, sorry. However, the Linchpin only has 1 shot. We need to keep that in mind. Do we want them to use it up N1?

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chitownmvp01 wrote:
Varanus wrote:The traitor is the mafia's factional kill.

So the Traitor is included in the Mafia chat then?

No. The traitor is told the identities of the members of the mafia. That is all.
Mafia do not know which is the traitor.


Thanks for the answer.

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cmitc1 wrote:@Varanus

can the traitor target fellow mafia members?


of course


While it can hurt them numbers wise, I could see them targeting Mafia members to make us think that they're the Linchpin.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby RetralMega » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:39 pm

If we kill the two Mafia, do we win? Or do we have to kill the Traitor too?
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Unorthodox1337 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:40 pm

We need the rolecop to reveal today. That way doctor can camp him, and rolecop can find scum for us without being questioned.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Animate » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:40 pm

For long-term plays, the traitor could also opt to shoot an assigned mafia target, or not do anything if the linchpin is assigned a mafia target and claim WIFOM. So nothing is confirmed; the plan leans town in the short-term based on the different possibilities, but it's far from conclusive. The plan also won't work for multiple days, since the one-shot limit is easily CC'd and leads to absolutely nothing.

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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Unorthodox1337 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:40 pm

RetralMega wrote:If we kill the two Mafia, do we win? Or do we have to kill the Traitor too?

You must either kill the Mafia or the Traitor
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby cmitc1 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:41 pm

Unorthodox1337 wrote:We need the rolecop to reveal today. That way doctor can camp him, and rolecop can find scum for us without being questioned.


^^^

i agree, role cop should out.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Unorthodox1337 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:41 pm

Animate wrote:For long-term plays, the traitor could also opt to shoot an assigned mafia target, or not do anything if the linchpin is assigned a mafia target and claim WIFOM. So nothing is confirmed; the plan leans town in the short-term based on the different possibilities, but it's far from conclusive. The plan also won't work for multiple days, since the one-shot limit is easily CC'd and leads to absolutely nothing.

/FOS Unorthodox


What the fuck is this?
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Varanus » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:41 pm

A friendly reminder that it's always a good idea to read all the role cards.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby RetralMega » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:41 pm

Unorthodox1337 wrote:
RetralMega wrote:If we kill the two Mafia, do we win? Or do we have to kill the Traitor too?

You must either kill the Mafia or the Traitor

Okay so let's not worry about them right now. Tie them to the fence post.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Unorthodox1337 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:42 pm

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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby chitownmvp01 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:42 pm

RetralMega wrote:If we kill the two Mafia, do we win? Or do we have to kill the Traitor too?


Mafia or Traitor. We should go for Mafia first before taking a 50-50 on lynching the Traitor. Wait for MyLo (if we ever come to it) to try lynching the Traitor.

I agree with the Role Cop outing. I do not think they should use their ability tonight though. Remember that they can only use their ability once.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:43 pm

Ow my brain hurts from reading this


But I'm gonna sheep here and agree with the Cakez/Animate situation
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby Unorthodox1337 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:44 pm

Shit. I just realized doc can only heal once.
ROLECOP DO NOT REVEAL TODAY.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby cmitc1 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:44 pm

ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:Ow my brain hurts from reading this


But I'm gonna sheep here and agree with the Cakez/Animate situation


mine does too.


the main idea of it is to take control of night kills, and help give us a idea of who the traitor is.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby RetralMega » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:45 pm

Tbh, we should have voted one of them instantly to get a record.
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Re: TFM27 | Linchpin | Day 1

Postby SarahSaurus » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:46 pm

Unorthodox1337 wrote:Shit. I just realized doc can only heal once.
ROLECOP DO NOT REVEAL TODAY.


The doctor can heal every night, but they cannot heal the same person twice.

The rolecop can only investigate once.
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