[Newcomer FM] NFM25 | Game Over [Mafia wins!]

[cmitc1]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

[chitownmvp01]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

[cmitc1]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

[chitownmvp01]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

[chitownmvp01]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

[cmitc1]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

[chitownmvp01]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

James is an obvious frame target, but the role list doesn't have a guaranteed framer, so maybe investigating him regardless would be a good idea. It would be very nice to figure out James's exact role. Up the TI on what they want to do.

[cmitc1]

Spoiler:

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

James is an obvious frame target, but the role list doesn't have a guaranteed framer, so maybe investigating him regardless would be a good idea. It would be very nice to figure out James's exact role. Up the TI on what they want to do.

I would wait one night or something, james is someone scum would push to be lynched if he is town.

[chitownmvp01]

Spoiler:

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

James is an obvious frame target, but the role list doesn't have a guaranteed framer, so maybe investigating him regardless would be a good idea. It would be very nice to figure out James's exact role. Up the TI on what they want to do.

I would wait one night or something, james is someone scum would push to be lynched if he is town.

At some point, it would be good to know exactly what he is so he doesn't keep on claiming different roles.

I don't think James actually is Vig though. It's dumb if he is with a Witch in the game.

I also wish that some of the inactive players (you know who you are) would contribute more.

[TrueChara]

Spoiler:

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

James is an obvious frame target, but the role list doesn't have a guaranteed framer, so maybe investigating him regardless would be a good idea. It would be very nice to figure out James's exact role. Up the TI on what they want to do.

I would wait one night or something, james is someone scum would push to be lynched if he is town.

At some point, it would be good to know exactly what he is so he doesn't keep on claiming different roles.

I don't think James actually is Vig though. It's dumb if he is with a Witch in the game.

I also wish that some of the inactive players (you know who you are) would contribute more.

Maybe James is a more important role than vig. After all, vigs aren't huge targets for mafia.

[suckable]

HELLLOOOOOOOOOOLOO!!!! I read the original NFM25 and oh boy I was so pissed at how James was so arrogant.

/vote James

We're not allowed to lynch on Day 1, but I would lynch James if we were allowed to.

Yeah I knew that

[cmitc1]

hey truechara, tell me what you think about james, do you think he is town, or scum.

Spoiler:

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

James is an obvious frame target, but the role list doesn't have a guaranteed framer, so maybe investigating him regardless would be a good idea. It would be very nice to figure out James's exact role. Up the TI on what they want to do.

I would wait one night or something, james is someone scum would push to be lynched if he is town.

At some point, it would be good to know exactly what he is so he doesn't keep on claiming different roles.

I don't think James actually is Vig though. It's dumb if he is with a Witch in the game.

I also wish that some of the inactive players (you know who you are) would contribute more.

some players live in another time zone (pretty sure james and samuel do.)

james is probably not a vig. he is dumb town, or mafia trying to distract power roles.

[chitownmvp01]

Spoiler:

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

James is an obvious frame target, but the role list doesn't have a guaranteed framer, so maybe investigating him regardless would be a good idea. It would be very nice to figure out James's exact role. Up the TI on what they want to do.

I would wait one night or something, james is someone scum would push to be lynched if he is town.

At some point, it would be good to know exactly what he is so he doesn't keep on claiming different roles.

I don't think James actually is Vig though. It's dumb if he is with a Witch in the game.

I also wish that some of the inactive players (you know who you are) would contribute more.

Maybe James is a more important role than vig. After all, vigs aren't huge targets for mafia.

It's a huge target for the Witch. Maybe he isn't a more important role, but a Cit trying to keep the Witch away from more important roles. Either way, I don't think he is a Vig.

[cmitc1]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

James is an obvious frame target, but the role list doesn't have a guaranteed framer, so maybe investigating him regardless would be a good idea. It would be very nice to figure out James's exact role. Up the TI on what they want to do.

this comments kinda bugs me. I may just be over reacting

[JazzMusicStops]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

James is an obvious frame target, but the role list doesn't have a guaranteed framer, so maybe investigating him regardless would be a good idea. It would be very nice to figure out James's exact role. Up the TI on what they want to do.

this comments kinda bugs me. I may just be over reacting

Same here
though it's probably nothing serious, just badly worded

[SamuelJackson1972]

Spoiler:

I'm confused as to why James wasn't Blacklisted after the stunt he pulled in 10D

Why would I be blacklisted for stopping the town from committing suicide?

Claiming 5 bajillion roles makes you look like a scummy fuck
all I'm saying

That was the point. Try to pay attention to what's going on around you.

Let me spell it out for you
Trying to look scummy = Trying to be mislynched = Gamethrowing

Simple thoughts for the simple minded.

There's nothing "simple minded" about it
You were straight up gamethrowing

There are many things you do not understand. Forum Mafia is one of them.

Anyway, we really shouldn't be discussing this here, as the game is technically ongoing. We're both dead in that game, so if you want to understand the wisdom of my actions, feel free to PM me about it.

"Wisdom". So you're gonna do that again? -___-

[cmitc1]

Spoiler:

I'm confused as to why James wasn't Blacklisted after the stunt he pulled in 10D

Why would I be blacklisted for stopping the town from committing suicide?

Claiming 5 bajillion roles makes you look like a scummy fuck
all I'm saying

That was the point. Try to pay attention to what's going on around you.

Let me spell it out for you
Trying to look scummy = Trying to be mislynched = Gamethrowing

Simple thoughts for the simple minded.

There's nothing "simple minded" about it
You were straight up gamethrowing

There are many things you do not understand. Forum Mafia is one of them.

Anyway, we really shouldn't be discussing this here, as the game is technically ongoing. We're both dead in that game, so if you want to understand the wisdom of my actions, feel free to PM me about it.

"Wisdom". So you're gonna do that again? -___-

out of all the things in the thread this is the thing you comment on

[cmitc1]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

[chitownmvp01]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

James is an obvious frame target, but the role list doesn't have a guaranteed framer, so maybe investigating him regardless would be a good idea. It would be very nice to figure out James's exact role. Up the TI on what they want to do.

this comments kinda bugs me. I may just be over reacting

He's an easy mislynch if he's town. It wouldn't surprise me if Mafia push for lynching him tomorrow. However, a TI knowing what he actually is would be nice since his constant role claims are extremely annoying and hurt discussion.

The fact that chit is trying to coax James into claiming a different role already makes me uneasy.

@SamuelJackson Yeah I feel the same way.

My intent is not to encourage James to change his claim right now (although knowing him from past games, he will eventually), but I think everyone would want James to either not claim or commit to 1 claim, preferable not claim (unfortunately he claimed Vig). His multiple role claims are extremely annoying. I do not want him hurting discussion tomorrow.

For players who have never seen James play before, I will explain how he hurts discussion. If town is trying to decide on a lynch target and make a night plan that includes James, he then claims a different role and makes us have to change things up. It's very annoying and not town motivated.

[SamuelJackson1972]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

He's a VI, probably cit aswell.

[ramer93]

Spoiler:

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

The only reason that I can say that he is bad town is that I haven't read a game in which he behaved this way and he was scum (I haven't read every single game he has been in though). His actions are not town motivated in any way though.

i understand his actions are not town motivated, but the thing is, he did things that would hurt the town, as town in another game.

James's behavior in past games as town shouldn't completely cause us to assume that he is town in this game. I haven't seen him in a game as scum before.

I haven't read every game that he has been in though, so there may be a game which he was scum in that I don't know about.

i would suggest a TI gets on him, but, if there is a framer, i am sure it will be on him.

James is an obvious frame target, but the role list doesn't have a guaranteed framer, so maybe investigating him regardless would be a good idea. It would be very nice to figure out James's exact role. Up the TI on what they want to do.

I would wait one night or something, james is someone scum would push to be lynched if he is town.

At some point, it would be good to know exactly what he is so he doesn't keep on claiming different roles.

I don't think James actually is Vig though. It's dumb if he is with a Witch in the game.

I also wish that some of the inactive players (you know who you are) would contribute more.

Maybe James is a more important role than vig. After all, vigs aren't huge targets for mafia.

Bruh any confirmed PR is a huge target, there are six cits on the list.

[cmitc1]

@chit

that is not really a defense to what is bugging me >.> what is bugging me is how you are pushing TI's to invest him, it kinda makes you sound like a framer >.>

[EvilDeanius0]

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

I don't ever think I seen him flip scum, and he's acting the same as usual. It's impossible to tell at this stage.

[chitownmvp01]

@chit

that is not really a defense to what is bugging me >.> what is bugging me is how you are pushing TI's to invest him, it kinda makes you sound like a framer >.>

Well I'm town. His multiple role claims per game just annoy me enough that I think it would be beneficial for a TI to figure out what his actual role might be. If Framer is included in the pairing, it suggests that a Framer may exist in this game. Up to TI(s) on who they want to check tonight.

question to everyone, do you think james is town, or scum as of right now. (null is not answer i want >.>)

Im leaning toward bad town right now.

I don't ever think I seen him flip scum, and he's acting the same as usual. It's impossible to tell at this stage.

I don't want to commit to a bad town read based on the fact that I haven't seen him play this way as scum, that's why my read on James is still null, although cmitc doesn't want to hear that answer.

[ramer93]

Jeez the last page~ or so really makes me think Chit ought to be associated with James if he ends up flipping red

Ask me to explain if you don't see it too, I can't multiquote rn