[Newcomer FM] NFM24 | Game Over | Mafia/Witch Win

[TrueGent]

Vote Count:
cookieclicker33 (2): Unorthodox1337, TandJ50
Unorthodox1337 (1): cookieclicker33
suckable (1): Varanus
slantslantslant (1): ToSPlayerre
Gregriff321 (1): Sevohaseth

With 16 alive, 9 is majority.

Day End Countdown

[ToSPlayerre]

/vote slantslantslant

Notice how once noone voted him he went silent for several pages.

Notice how he just claimed Town and then never responded again.

Notice how everything Kmenx has posted thus far has been a shitpost

Scumreads:
All slight but:
Kmenx
Slant
Macca

I went to sleep you chode. Just because someone isn't participating in sever auti- I mean memeing doesn't mean they're scum

Keyword: memeing

[TandJ50]

The day ends tomorrow at 7:30 AM UTC+1. Would I be correct in stating that the day ends at 4:30 AM EST?

Umm, it ends at 11:30 PM today in my time zone (PST) so it would be 2:30 AM

[HappyMatt369]

how am I going to sort though all the memes?

[TandJ50]

Why are we even using UTC? No one uses it. Just list a few different common timezones and if someone isn't in one they can just convert

If you didn't notice, TrueGent posted a countdown, and with some basic math it's pretty easy to figure out.

[Varanus]

Why are we even using UTC? No one uses it. Just list a few different common timezones and if someone isn't in one they can just convert

Have you tried looking at the time of the day start post

And then adding 5 days to it?

[TandJ50]

So, I see I am being scumread. Not trying to get uptight with those accusing me, but could you tell me why?

[MaccaMania]

The replacements of this game have legit just taken over. All of them must be scum.

I'll look into cookie now. I'll see what I think of them.

[MaccaMania]

Bleh. I don't like how he was shoving the ISOs down our throats, screeching for Towncred. I also didn't like when he said he was too scared of making reads because in his previous game he scumread a confirmed Transporter. They are two of the only things that stuck out for me, but I'm not really seeing Cookie flip scum if he is lynched.

[HappyMatt369]

I really feel like we shouldn't lynch today. we have some reads, but I will these aren't enough to lynch. The next day will hopefully reveal a lot more information.
What would we do if a certain mafia role was lynched? Let's plan that out.

[suckable]

I fell asleep when I reached home lmao, day ends in 12 hours and I have work for 12 hours gg.

Looking through ISOs:

slantslantslant:

Spoiler:

Well I say we don't lynch or mass claim day 1. Mislynching on the first day would be bad and mass claiming is just asking to get all our power roles killed. We shoul probabably mass claim when we have a little bit of information from the power roles.

I agree with this lynching d1 is way more likely in favour of mafia.

Can you think of any way it might be favourable for town? Outside of luck.

Honestly not really.

Mathematically, if we choose at random we are more likely to kill a townie. Plus everyone is new so we have no idea how they'll act when they're scummy. I won't push it but I'd even say a day 2 lynch would be ridiculous

If you've read other games, day 2 lynch is a must because that's where the killings take place and TIs would've at least gotten some info. If there's no lynch, scum might take majority slowly.

If you're that sure, then vote to lynch me.

I wasn't aware that trying to make this game easy from start to finish and not letting it end 2v1 was scummy.

No defense?? Just lynch? Seems suspicious, but it might be the fact that he didn't know that there wasn't a trial after someone got lynched.

Reading through his ISO, I don't see scummy behaviour, I don't know why y'all are scum reading him :O he's a null read for me now.

ToSPlayerre:
He doesn't post much, but I am town reading him because he tries to start the ball rolling when he sees the thread is slow, which scum doesn't want.

HappyMatt369:
Null read. He doesn't post anything scummy whatsoever.

cookieclicker33:

Spoiler:

I think a Day 1 massclaim would never work.


Vigilante claims - Witch controls vigilante to attack a townie.
Doctor claims - Witch controls doctor to heal herself.
BG claims - Witch controls BG to guard herself.
Veteran claims - Mafia and witch never visit veteran.
Investigator, Sheriff, or Lookout claims - Witch can screw around with them, and they become mafia's targets.
Citizens claim - Only roles with an ability are getting attacked now, gg town.
Escort claims - Witch controls escort to roleblock the doctor or another PR role.

I actually agree with this.

I have a question I'd like everyone to answer:
Is lynching slant like lynching scum or dumb town?
I'm not a risktaker because it's Day 1, so we don't need to take risks, but if you read my posts, the only reason I'm against lynching Day 1 is because we're more likely to lynch dumb town.

Dumb town probs, I don't see him being scummy or whatsover.

http://www.mastersinhealthcare.com/wp-content/uploads/salt.jpg


DID I DO A GOOD MEME?

Yes lol good job.

Null read on cookie, he is very townlike.

Varanus:
Spoiler: Reading through his ISO, it made my laugh tbh, its like a comedy down there.

Your first line of operation is to try to kill the TI, to avoid getting found that way. Second priority is the TP, to make sure all your kills get through. If there's a transporter, you have to kill it or the TP before a mass claim, as it becomes nearly impossible to kill them both if they're both confirmed. If you have a janitor, kill a medium if there is one before they can give out what roles the dead players are. During mass claim, there should probably be 2 mafia claiming cit, and the rest claiming a PR to force a TvS against another player. The goal is to set up as many different TvS scenarios as possible where the death of the townie will only confirm one scum, and the death of the scum only confirms one townie. At this point, it usually only takes one mislynch for maf to win, so it's crucial to force as many possible mislynches as you can.

Before the mass claim, you need to be prepared to claim a role. It would be advisable to pick what role you want to claim tonight, and then drop subtle hints that you're that role tomorrow. Claims are always far more believable if you can show posts you made early in the game where you hint that you are that role.


And one last thing. Never be afraid about scum reading other mafia members. If 2 mafia have been lynched, and your reads list happens to have them sitting with them both as weak town reads or null, guess who gets lynched next. This doesn't mean you should quickly switch to scum reading them once it looks like they're going to be lynched either. That's even more obvious. Make your reads, town read an ally or two, scum read an ally or two. Stick to your guns with those reads unless there's good reason for you to change them, such as a scum slip, or other general scummy activities. Just try to play in that regard as if you're a townie.

And remember, you don't have to survive to win as mafia. Only one of you has to. There can be benefits to dying, if you play your cards right.


Any more questions?

I love this, town reading him cause of this. No scum would take up so much time to type this out.

Eh, I don't have time for the rest, but most of my reads are null and town, I don't have a scum read yet... I'm late for work :c
Apologies again, I didn't expect day 1 to be so hectic

[Varanus]

Impossible.

[TandJ50]

I feel like scumreading someone and then saying "but my reads suck" could be used as an excuse to push a ML,

Thats the main basis on what I've read from you so far.

I made a reads list because Sevo was asking looking for reads lists. My reads are still crap, but at least I'm getting better.

And on the topic of slant, I WAS scumreading him, but he realized how he was getting so uptight about accusations and corrected himself, which is what half of NFM is about, so now I have a null read.

[Varanus]

Good night all.
Hope to see you in the morning.

[Varanus]

That's because it's D1. Having a five day start is never a good idea.

[Varanus]

Making a game start with 120 hours before the first night was a mistake. That's what I'm saying.

[Unorthodox1337]

Mk.

Hard scumread on Forgot3n, hard scumread on cookie. TI check them out if you can, but up to you.

[MaccaMania]

Mk.

Hard scumread on Forgot3n, hard scumread on cookie. TI check them out if you can, but up to you.

Telling a TI to check someone will likely just draw a Framer or a Disguiser to that target, so that won't work.

I'm thinking about what Greg said, with everyone giving a fake TI result each morning, and I actually don't see much wrong with it. Everyone posts a Sheriff and Investigator result, and we just pay absolutely no attention to them, but when an actual TI dies we can check what their results were. If someone says someone is a member of the Mafia in their results, we still pay no attention to it, as they most likely just made it up. If it is the actual TI who called them out, they can push on their target, and try to draw scum associations.

Example:
"I slept peacefully last night.
XXX - Not Suspicious
XXX - Cit/GF"

If the TI is actually Lookout, then they should know only to reveal themselves if they watch somebody get Witched or if they watch somebody get killed.

[mihail66]

So I just decided to take a break till noon and check this. I MISSED ALL THE MEMES. So now I will use RNG and randomly vote someone who has 1 vote already
/vote Unorthodox

[MaccaMania]

We should be keeping discussion to 0, because it is Twilight. I'll PM a Mod to lock the thread.

[TrueGent]

Vote Count:
cookieclicker33 (2): Unorthodox1337, TandJ50
Unorthodox1337 (2): cookieclicker33, mihail66
suckable (1): Varanus
slantslantslant (1): ToSPlayerre
Gregriff321 (1): Sevohaseth

Do not post.

[TrueGent]

"Any luck?"
"Nah, its a bust. The guy is way too stingy."
"Ugh, alright. Get back here so we can start planning for tonight."
"Yeah, yeah, roger or whatever."

No one was lynched.

Night 1 Begins! Night ends at 11:30am (UTC+1) on the 1st of August.
Please send all night actions to Metrion and myself under the subject "NFM24 Night Action".
Mafia chat has been unlocked.

[TrueGent]

CAPTAINPHASMA123 is replacing MaccaMania

[TrueGent]

Night results going out now.

[TrueGent]

"Heh, looks like the deed is done. What did you find?"
"Nothing but a bunch a junk. It was practically pointless coming here."
"Well, we are going to have many more nights in this town my friend."
"Whatever, lets bail before someone spots us.

Gregriff321 was killed by a member of the Mafia!
Their role was Citizen.

Day 2 Begins! Day ends at 2:30pm (UTC+1) on the 6th of August.
If you did not receive a night result, PM me and Metrion.