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[Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Mafia and Witch Win! (Gullible)

Postby RockFire » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:14 am

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Setup Phase

Postby RockFire » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:23 am

Role Pairings
Spoiler: Town Investigative (Investigator/Lookout/Sheriff)
Town Protective (Marshal/Bodyguard/Doctor)
Town Support (Medium, Escort, Transporter)
Town Killing (Vigilante/Veteran)

Mafia Head (GodFather/Caporegime)
Mafia Tactical (Mafioso/Blackmailer)
Mafia Support (Consort/Consigliere/Agent)
Mafia Deception (Janitor, Framer, Disguiser, Prankster)


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  1. alex12341321
  2. HappyMatt369
  3. yauaustin202
  4. ObiWanEpisodeIII
  5. SuddenlyaNerd
  6. Swordsworth <-------- cimbraien
  7. SarahSaurus
  8. Unorthodox1337
  9. Kemex <--------- ItsmeCreature
  10. Varanus <-------- DankaldTrump
  11. teamalex <-------- jlars15
  12. DrKiwi353
  13. sibpanon
  14. Anonymous0726
  15. oliy
  16. suckable

Bold means the player has confirmed their slot.

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Alex1234321: Killed Night One by the Mafia - Marshal
ObiWanEpisodeIII: Killed Night One by a Serial Killer - Citizen
oliy: Lynched Day Two - Citizen
Swordsworth: Killed Night Two by a Serial Killer - Escort
SarahSaurus: Killed Night Two by the Vigilante - Vigilante
Anonymous0726; Lynched Day Three - Serial Killer
DrKiwi353: Killed Night Three by the Mafia - Transporter

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Night One (Night Of Blight) / Day Two (Quite a Fright)
Night Two (rock's a weenie) & Day Three (Grim News)
Night Three (The Bell Tolls) & Day Four (The Brink)

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Setup Phase

Postby RockFire » Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:02 pm

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby RockFire » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:53 pm

The Sun rises, the people awake.
A murder most foul is what awaits.
Villains to be caught and punished.
With the hung noose to be lynched.

Day One Begins! It will end on June the 18th at 1:00 P.M. (MDT).
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby oliy » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:07 pm

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby suckable » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:12 pm

Second!! Haha.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby alex1234321 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:13 pm

Hello. Let's get down to business. Here are a few questions:
1. Do you have any FM experience? It could be your second game, you could have ToS experience, or you could even have read previous games.

2. Is Day 1 important for formulating reads?

3. Are people who post a lot, post off topic, or do not talk at all scummy?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby oliy » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:15 pm

Okay, I haven't played NFM before, so this is what I think we should do in our first post, an introduction.
I'm Oliy, an experienced player, and this is my 22nd game.
I'm notorious for making walls of text to catch up, and it has my opinions on subjects, so I recommend you read them.
I hate shitposts in general. I'm okay with pagegets or using memes in regular posts, but if it detracts from discussion I hate it.
My activity comes in waves, so I wont be too active in general, especially considering this is my third game at a time.

I see I already know some of these people, so let's have a good game!


First topic of discussion: When do we want to massclaim, or all claim our roles?
I believe we shouldn't do it early on as it gives scum more of a lead as to what to do than town, but I would say D3 would be good as we'll likely be in/near MyLo.



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Yes, D1 should always be used, but don't make reads yet, they're never accurate (unless you're me from 9D 8-) )
It's all based on personality, but I highly recommend they stay on topic, and if they intend to sway it off topic, that's scummy. Participating in off-topic discussion is null, but bringing it back to discussion is townlike.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby alex1234321 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:17 pm

Here are my answers:

1. This is my 2nd FM game, and I play a lot of ToS.

2. Yes. Day 1 is easily the most important day to formulate reads.

3. Yes. Loud people could be Town, or scum trying too hard to be townlike. Quiet people or off topic posters are usually scum.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby alex1234321 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:19 pm

I will also be active in waves. I hate anyone who posts off topic. I do not usually post walls, but I always post on topic.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby alex1234321 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:21 pm

Disclaimer: If you post off topic, I WILL scumread you.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby alex1234321 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:24 pm

And Oliy, to answer your question, I agree that we should massclaim around Day 3, as it is not super early, but also not MyLo. I think that winning as Town is all about teamwork, and we need leaders. If you are a confirmable Townie, you should confirm yourself Day 2.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby DrKiwi353 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:27 pm

Hi, this is my first FM game, but I have decent experience with ToS, not a complete idiot when it comes to ToS but not a pro either. I might not be 100% active 100% of the time but I'll try by best.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby suckable » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:28 pm

1. Do you have any FM experience? It could be your second game, you could have ToS experience, or you could even have read previous games.
This is my first time playing FM, and I've played loads of ToS.

2. Is Day 1 important for formulating reads?
Yes as evils usually talk minimally and are quiet start of game.

3. Are people who post a lot, post off topic, or do not talk at all scummy?
Post a lot, no. But post off topic and not talk at all are scummy indeed.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby SuddenlyANerd » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:42 pm

Jesus this game took like 10 years to start.

My answers to Alex's questions:

1. This is my second NFM game. In NFM17 I was the edgiest Townie ever who didn't want to work with anyone else.

(I was such an idiot that game.)

2. IMO, yes and no. Day 1 has tonnes of da dank memes (something something rare pepe am i doing it right), but scumslips can very easily happen. However, figuring out the difference between memeing around and genuine scumslips (or the best reverse-psychology tricks ever, e.g. Jacko in NFM11) can be very difficult.

3. To me, it depends on how much there is to discuss. If everyone's in the middle of a debate over how scummy someone looks or any other important topic, then anyone derailing conversation seems scummy to me. Generally, inactivity makes me see someone as null, not scum anymore *NFM17 TRAUMA FLASHBACKS INTENSIFY*.
What the tarnation did you just tarnation say about me, you little snap crackle pop? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the mafia, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret killings in the town, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained as a mafia killing role and I’m the top mafioso in the entire mafia.

mark my words, you're tarnation dead, you gee golly idiot.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby DankaldTrump » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:04 pm

Hello everyone, this is my first NFM game, and my 2nd FM game overall.

I believe that day 1 reading will give you a general sense of the attitudes of people can be used later to find changes in attitude, so day 1 is pretty important IMO.

Should SK or maf be our first priority?

I think SK because we could lower the kill-rate to 1 per night thus giving us more time and people to find the maf.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby alex1234321 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:19 pm

I agree with Dankald that we should try to find the SK first. The only problem with this is the fact that the SK might kill some Mafia members, though.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby DankaldTrump » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:24 pm

alex1234321 wrote:I agree with Dankald that we should try to find the SK first. The only problem with this is the fact that the SK might kill some Mafia members, though.

We have town killing for that.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby DankaldTrump » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:25 pm

suckable wrote:Second!! Haha.

Nice sheeping on Oliy :lol:
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby alex1234321 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:37 pm

DankaldTrump wrote:
suckable wrote:Second!! Haha.

Nice sheeping on Oliy :lol:

Let's get back on topic. I think that we should talk more about when to massclaim. In a previous post, I said that we should do it around Day 3, and confirmable Townies should confirm themselves Day 2. This way, we will have trustable Town leaders early on.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby DrKiwi353 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:55 pm

I agree with alex having someone we can trust will be integral, so confirmable townies should come out D2. Also, I agree, we definetly want to go for SK and lower the killcount
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby oliy » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:04 pm

alex1234321 wrote:And Oliy, to answer your question, I agree that we should massclaim around Day 3, as it is not super early, but also not MyLo. I think that winning as Town is all about teamwork, and we need leaders. If you are a confirmable Townie, you should confirm yourself Day 2.

No pls that's earlier massclaims without protectives being outed. I stay say hidden so Citizens are more likely to die.
Even if we want a town leader, it isn't worth it. We get associations from mislynches and who pushed the mislynch, while a confirmed townie can just mess up with their reads and we get fewer associations.
Only experienced players should reveal if they think it's the right thing, but I suggest no revealing.

Look, if someone's a strong scumread we're lynching them, but if there's a tie and they're giving you vibes of being a loner then go for them due to eliminating the KPN. I would rather gamble on being Mafia than Town.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby alex1234321 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:09 pm

oliy wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:And Oliy, to answer your question, I agree that we should massclaim around Day 3, as it is not super early, but also not MyLo. I think that winning as Town is all about teamwork, and we need leaders. If you are a confirmable Townie, you should confirm yourself Day 2.

No pls that's earlier massclaims without protectives being outed. I stay say hidden so Citizens are more likely to die.
Even if we want a town leader, it isn't worth it. We get associations from mislynches and who pushed the mislynch, while a confirmed townie can just mess up with their reads and we get fewer associations.
Only experienced players should reveal if they think it's the right thing, but I suggest no revealing.

Look, if someone's a strong scumread we're lynching them, but if there's a tie and they're giving you vibes of being a loner then go for them due to eliminating the KPN. I would rather gamble on being Mafia than Town.

If there is a Transporter, though, they should reveal early then transport themselves with someone else. This way, there is a much lower chance of killers targeting them.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby Unorthodox1337 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:17 pm

Oh god this took forever. Let's do this boys.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 21 | Day One (A Fresh Start)

Postby HappyMatt369 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:32 pm

Hello everyone!
1. Do you have any FM experience? It could be your second game, you could have ToS experience, or you could even have read previous games.
Yes, this is my second FM game. I also play TOS.
2. Is Day 1 important for formulating reads?
Uh... Not really. Just watch everyone for scumslips. Otherwise, just have fun. :)
3. Are people who post a lot, post off topic, or do not talk at all scummy?
Posting a lot is either really active town or nervous scum trying to pass off as town. Posting off topic is 99.99% scummy, and not talking at all is mostly scummy.
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