Episode X | A Comedy of Errors | [Town Wins]

[Swordsworth]

And the mysterious, unknown Town Killing is...?

[VucubCaquix]

Salense...

I've slept peacefully all game.

[Nellyfox]

We need Hippo now. She hasn't been on the last few game days and I'm nervous about that.

[VucubCaquix]

Don't be nervous. Hippo is confirmed town. Let's party?

[Nellyfox]

At this point she really is, though I just need confirmation. Now the question is who do we lynch?

[Swordsworth]

Vucub, did you try actually reading chubby and/or Neasans instead of slotting in scenarios

[VucubCaquix]

I haven't yet. Will get to it, if you give me the chance.

[Swordsworth]

Shouldn't you have been doing that in the first place?

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Who initially stated that Salense was Citizen? It wasn't Deanius.

[Swordsworth]

Slept peacefully.

Pretty sure CMITC is scum fl that quick hammer.

/vote CMITC

Doesn't support your theory. Neasans also forgot Caporegime cannot roll.

[VucubCaquix]

Slept peacefully.

Pretty sure CMITC is scum fl that quick hammer.

/vote CMITC

Doesn't support your theory. Neasans also forgot Caporegime cannot roll.

Are you really using a statement from DAY 7 to try and explain why Chubby isn't buddies with Cmit? CMIT WAS CONFIRMED SCUM BY DAY 7. THIS ONLY MAKES HIM LOOK WORSE!

Also as the master of townslip detecting I will tell you that that is not a townslip by Loch Nes. Moving on.

I'm not feeling like doing all the quoting I need to do for an ISO, so debate me on these points.

1. If Chubby is town, that means the framer didn't visit him on night 6. Why would the framer refrain from doing this? We told Retral upfront to investigate Chubby.
2. If Chubby is town, why did the mafia kill Alzar before Retral? They could have prevented Chubby from being confirmed at all, giving them a bigger chance of winning.
3. Chubby was against a mass claim after the bomber fused. Why?
4. Chubby has continually pushed against easily scum readable townies all game, such as Downie, Jord, Murat. He also goes after Elusive a lot.
5. On day 3, Chubby stated:

Why would Mafia help Town? Right now, mafia want to try to whittle Town's numbers(by manipulating Santa via Witch) down while we chase after Bomber Suspects. Pretty much, if we cannot lynch correctly(scum) in the first to days, Mafia/scum has achieved a pretty much guaranteed win. Once they lynch the Bomber, it will be over if we mislynch twice,and then incorrectly witch. Not to mention Mafia usually king-make Neutral roles over Town roles.

On day 4, Chubby doubts Downie can be town at all based on the evidence given by a blackmailer. His attitude change is amazing, see for yourself.

[Nellyfox]

Against a mass claim because it renders him useless?
Also I thought Downie was mafia or bomber, and Evil's words helped me think that way. Your point?

As for Chubby being visited, explain night 5's spy visits. No reason to frame Tilted because they killed Elusive and notCalm could say whatever he wanted since he was Framer, so Hippo was framed. But she came back cit/GF. Explain that.

[VucubCaquix]

First point I touched on in an earlier post. Chubby's wording was especially weird around this part, and it sets him apart from other people who were initially against a mass claim.

Second point is that Chubby contradicted his earlier viewpoint completely. I don't see how you could write this off completely but I guess we're all a little tired

Third point is pretty simple. Since the mafia had 3 confirmed scum already who weren't the godfather, they wouldn't have a reason to frame Hippo as anything but Cit/GF. It would be especially pointless with a spy, since we would recognize framer as a possibility.

Its different with Chubby, since Chubby is not in the Cit/GF pool. If Chubby is town, then they just let a veteran be confirmed for some reason. Why do that?

[Nellyfox]

Why frame Hippo at all if they make her what she claimed to be? Unless she's scum, which was my theory. But depending on what she says when she shows up will dictate this.

I am tired and quotes would be nice to actually see because I'm not very observant on my own.

[VucubCaquix]

Hippo can't be scum unless someone misread one of their messages.

They framed hippo to make it look like the investigation results could have been tampered with. And why not, not like anyone else was being investigated. They could've sent the blackmailer at hippo and it would've been the same result.

[hippophant]

uh... hey guys...

I'm still alive. Apparently.

Just got a prod. Apparently I was RBed N7. Last night I slept peacefully.

I don't know why I was roleblocked given that I have no ability. But yes, I am citizen, and yes, I haven't been on for the last few days.

[Nellyfox]

Hippo's clear. So now what?

[hippophant]

Hippo's clear. So now what?

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You aren't confirmed any more than Vucub y'know.

[Nellyfox]

I guess. Though if you're gonna be like that, at least tell me why you think I'm scum.

[hippophant]

I guess. Though if you're gonna be like that, at least tell me why you think I'm scum.

uhh

as some kind of elaborate plan to gain townie trust once you realized the rest of your mafia were going to be lynched and outed anyways? I mean, you were never the first one to vote any of your mafia members even if you did call them out as being scum.

[Nellyfox]

You know I realized that as well. I really have hardly voted for anybody. Part of the reason I haven't is because I didn't want a quick hammer (like yesterday, but we know what happened) so we could all make sure we're on the same page. It's more scum motivated to decrease day discussion time than it is town motivated, for one thing. Considering how careless we've been the entire game it's good to know everyone agrees so no one can be like "i told you so" and whine a lot. Being first isn't really everything, voting in general is. A lot of the time someone else voted before I could and that just sucks for me.

Not sure what else you mean.

[VucubCaquix]

Very unlikely Nelly is mafia. And that has nothing to do with how I read her.

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

First point I touched on in an earlier post. Chubby's wording was especially weird around this part, and it sets him apart from other people who were initially against a mass claim.

Second point is that Chubby contradicted his earlier viewpoint completely. I don't see how you could write this off completely but I guess we're all a little tired

Third point is pretty simple. Since the mafia had 3 confirmed scum already who weren't the godfather, they wouldn't have a reason to frame Hippo as anything but Cit/GF. It would be especially pointless with a spy, since we would recognize framer as a possibility.

Its different with Chubby, since Chubby is not in the Cit/GF pool. If Chubby is town, then they just let a veteran be confirmed for some reason. Why do that?

Can you get the exact wording?mimcan probably explain it.

For the second point, I skipped some pages, and I was told to read said pages. After reading said pages, I realized downie was actually likely to be Bomber.

You just defeated your own point there from what I'm seeing it as. But confusing and I may be reading it wrong.

Because they probably were settingvup to confirm CMITC as non janitor, and were hoping hip, not not, would be lynched.

Il, do PbPa tomorrow night, can't gt of mobile until then.

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

Very unlikely Nelly is mafia. And that has nothing to do with how I read her.

Wha..?

[ChubbyMooshroom9]

He back soon, iPad at 1 and need to charge and I cant use data and charge from where I am

[VucubCaquix]

Hip, nelly literally cannot be Mafia at this point

Can you explain how? I said unlikely not impossible.