[Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Game Over - Mafia Wins

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[Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Game Over - Mafia Wins

Postby iggyvolz » Fri May 06, 2016 8:48 pm

Newcomer Forum Mafia


Please read the rules below fully.

General Rules:

  1. Be respectful. Should be self-explanatory. No tolerance against racial/homophobic/sexist remarks. If you feel this rule isn't being followed, send the moderator in question a PM.
  2. Do not discuss the game outside of the thread unless otherwise stated. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  3. Do not quote any messages from / conversations with the moderator. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  4. Do not gamethrow. "Gamethrowing" means actively trying to undermine your, or your faction's, chances of winning.
  5. If you are inactive for more than 36 hours, you will receive a prod, and have 18 hours to reply. If you do not reply within 18 hours, you will be removed. However if your posts are found to not actually try to include content to futher the game, they will not count towards resetting the prod timer. Said content is evaluated under the moderator's discretion. You will be told if your post is valid or not.
  6. Quoting and then editing another player's post for the purpose of misleading is prohibited. Editing to simply cut down the post content to what is relevant is allowed.
  7. Any breaking of the above rules will be treated on a case by case basis - some will receive a warning, while others might result in higher punishment.
  8. Be sure to look at ObiWan's Rules for more info, some of the rolecards that will be used and the ECO if you don't know how a situation is handled.
  9. Lastly, If you have any questions, feel free to ask the moderator. We'll be glad to answer any doubts you may have.


Joining-specific rules:
  • Joining this game is done so through two queues. As the queues fill up, a new game will begin after the previous one has ended. Each game will have at least 9-13 "newer" players and 0-4 "non-newbies."
  • There is a newcomer waiting list, and a non-newbie waiting list.
  • You must have played in two (2) games or less to be considered a newcomer, barring a few cases.
  • To join as a non-newbie, you must have played 3+ games. Otherwise, you'll need to join as a newcomer.
  • 4 slots will be reserved for non-newbies on the player list. Should there not be enough non-newbies in the waiting list, then newcomers on the waiting list will take those available slots.
  • The Newcomer Games do not count against your maximum game count.
  • A "newbie" classifies someone new to FM who doesn't have quite the hang of the game yet, or just someone new to the "mafia" genre in general. Experience from other forums may carry over.
  • Any new player that dies on Night 1, will be put on the top of waiting list automatically for the next game.


Features:
  • A gamemode specifically made as a starting point for new players, with some non-newbies thrown into the mix. Everyone plays as they normally would.
  • A queue-based signups.
  • D1 FAQ (FM etymology, mechanics explanation, general FM introduction, etc.)

Rolelist:
Spoiler: Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Blackmailer OR Consort OR Agent
Consigliere OR Mafioso OR Framer
Consigliere OR Mafioso OR Disguiser

Witch

No whispers. Only one Citizen may roll in Random Town.
Only 1 Mafioso will be allowed to roll, if there is one.
Town Killing (TK) may not roll in Random Town.


Unused roles:
Spoiler: Mayor, Lawyer, Jailor, Retributionist, Transporter, Spy.
Godfather, Prankster, Janitor
Neutral Benigns, Bomber, Neutral Killings


Agent role card
Spoiler:
Agent

You are an Agent.

Your alignment is Mafia Support.

You were a brilliant Spy in your early days, one of the best in the country. However, on one mission you were captured - by the Godfather.
To your great surprise, he wanted to help you retire after all your years of service. The deal was simple. Use your talents to collect sensitive information from the townsfolk and he will rule to grant you whatever you want in this silly little town.

You can choose one player to spy on during the day. You will be informed if this player visits others at night.
Each night you also have the ability to plant a bug on a person. The bug will allow you to see who they visit that night, or if they do at all.
As well the bug will inform you what feedback they receive at the end of the night.
You can communicate with your allies each night, for as long as they are alive.

Your allies are [x] the [role], [x] the [role], and [x] the [role]

You win with the Mafia
You win with Survivors
You win with Witches
You must kill the Town
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Stalkers
You must kill Bombers
You may spare anyone else


Investigation Results:

Spoiler: Your target is very skilled in their line of work. They must be an Sheriff, Investigator, or Consigliere!
Your target is familiar with death. They must be a Medium, Doctor or Agent!
Your target has a disruptive presence. They must be an Escort, Marshal or Consort!
Your target is secretive. They must be a Lookout or Blackmailer!
Your target is very full of themselves. They must be a Bodyguard, Disguiser or Witch!
Your target owns guns. They must be a Vigilante, Veteran or Mafioso!
Your target is involved with deception. They must be a Framer!
Your target is an ordinary townsfolk. They must be a Citizen!


Player List:
Spoiler: Iggyvolz (Moderator)
ObiWan (Moderator)
FMBot (Vote Counter)


Graveyard
ItsmeCreature - Killed by Mafia N1 - Citizen
TheChosenOne095 - Killed by Mafia N2 - Investigator
IAmTrusty - Shot by Vigilante N2 - Citizen
JackoDerp - Lynched N2 - Blackmailer
Murat1996 - Killed by Mafia N3 - Lookout
CyndaquilMouse - Lynched D4 - Witch
pumacatrun2 - Killed by Mafia N4 - SheriffJackoDerp - Lynched D5 - Consigliere
TheCheddarCheese- Killed by Mafia N4 - Marshal

Timeline of Events
Day 2 Start
Day 3 Start
Day 4 Start
Day 5 Start
Day 6 Start
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Setting Up

Postby iggyvolz » Fri May 13, 2016 8:26 pm

Role cards will be sent in the morning.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Setting Up

Postby iggyvolz » Sat May 14, 2016 11:14 am

Introduction and mechanics.

First of all, welcome to the eighteenth NFM game. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia), with, most of the time, a third-party (neutrals) trying to fufill their own goals along the way. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-foward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team, and all neutrals with a night killing ability (Neutral Killings*). While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".
*Note: There are no Neutral Killings in this current game, due to the lower amount of players.

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • The former is when the players post on the gamethread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. This is also when Whispers* are sent. The first day lasts 24 hours but no lynchs occur during it. The following days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player is lynched, they are killed and removed from the game, with their role and last will (if they have one) being shown to public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it (unless jailed). **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

*Note: There are no whispers present in this game.
**Note: Day chat is currently allowed. Mafia does not have day chat in regular games, unless a role in play specifically states otherwise.


The game will only end once one of the major factions (or a NK) fufills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending me the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
"NFM Last Will" for Last Wills.
"NFM Death Note" for Death Notes.
"NFM Night Action" for Night Actions.

Mafia Tactical is in play: Meaning - Any member of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology.

General terms:

Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors.
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Last Will: A personal "diary", per see, in which the player may choose to write whatever they consider relevant. Automatically revealed upon death.

Slightly more uncommon terms:

FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.
IC - Inexperienced Challenged. A term used to describe the experienced players who sign up for NFMs as representatives.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night (and in the case of this game, during the day), the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to progress discussion in a fashion which will be benefitial to the town, try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post reads regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

Playing as Neutral

Witch is the only neutral available to roll. Their goal and play style is a mix between that of the Town and Mafia. They want to be actively hunting scum and trying to figure out who they win with and who they don't, applying one of the best night actions in the game accordingly; either to get into contact or to severely hinder. However they do not want to be getting scum lynched themselves, so they also have to play similar to the Mafia in the regard that they do want the town to be successful. Above all they need to look out for number 1; themselves.


Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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For anything else, feel free to ask me, the experienced players and/or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Setting Up

Postby iggyvolz » Sat May 14, 2016 11:20 am

13 roommates living in an appartment. And 13 copies of a letter from the landlord come in:
NOTICE: Any tenant whose room is not clean will be evicted. No questions asked - no matter who did it, the room's owner will be kicked out. I will be performing daily inspections for this purpose.

Thank you for your cooperation,
John C. LandLord


Day 1 Ends at 1:30 PM EDT on Sunday, May 15
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Setting Up

Postby iggyvolz » Sat May 14, 2016 1:36 pm

Day 1 Ends at 3:30 PM EDT on Sunday, May 14
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby TheChosenOne095 » Sat May 14, 2016 1:37 pm

Ayy, hello everybody
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Spoiler: FM Record:

NFM 10- Doctor -Win
NFM 13-Escort-Draw (Game canned)
NFM 15- Escort -Win
NFM 18-Investigator-Defeat
CFM 16-Crystal-Defeat
10B-Investigator-Win
NFM22-Prankster-Win



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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby murat1996 » Sat May 14, 2016 1:38 pm

Ayy lmao!



Also Iggy wouldn't Sunday be the 15th?
My FM Record: 26-28-2

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby jakob12341 » Sat May 14, 2016 1:42 pm

Hmm Hello people :)
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FM wins and losses: Spoiler: NFM14---->Escort MyLo (mislynched by town and lost)

NFM17---->Mafioso Win

NFM18:Vigilante suicide lost
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby Thukk0 » Sat May 14, 2016 1:43 pm

Finally! Hello everyone!
I prefer to be called Thukko. I usually play Ranked Practice with the name, Manly McMan.

Forum Mafia Record: 3 - 3 Spoiler: NFM 15 - Veteran - Win
NFM 18 - Framer - Win
Dark Assembly - Senator Bushwhacker - Got killed before real game began.
CFM17 - Nellyfox - Replaced out D1
SFM20- MirrorrorriM - Loss
TFM27 - Role Cop - Flawless Victory
TFM29 - Cop - Loss
SFM22 - Parity Cop - Loss
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby jakob12341 » Sat May 14, 2016 1:52 pm

Thukk0 wrote:Finally! Hello everyone!


Took some time, didn't it? XD
1/2/0
FM wins and losses: Spoiler: NFM14---->Escort MyLo (mislynched by town and lost)

NFM17---->Mafioso Win

NFM18:Vigilante suicide lost
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby iggyvolz » Sat May 14, 2016 1:53 pm

murat1996 wrote:Ayy lmao!



Also Iggy wouldn't Sunday be the 15th?

That's like the tenth time I've done that in the past week between my two games.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby IamTrusty » Sat May 14, 2016 1:58 pm

o/
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby jakob12341 » Sat May 14, 2016 2:10 pm

IamTrusty wrote:o/


Hey Trusty :P don't be tired this time XD and best of luck to everyone :D
1/2/0
FM wins and losses: Spoiler: NFM14---->Escort MyLo (mislynched by town and lost)

NFM17---->Mafioso Win

NFM18:Vigilante suicide lost
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby IamTrusty » Sat May 14, 2016 2:15 pm

jakob12341 wrote:
IamTrusty wrote:o/


Hey Trusty :P don't be tired this time XD and best of luck to everyone :D

triggered.
Don't forget to block at night this time.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby jakob12341 » Sat May 14, 2016 2:54 pm

IamTrusty wrote:
jakob12341 wrote:
IamTrusty wrote:o/


Hey Trusty :P don't be tired this time XD and best of luck to everyone :D

triggered.
Don't forget to block at night this time.


Heh yeah, but what if I have different powers now?
1/2/0
FM wins and losses: Spoiler: NFM14---->Escort MyLo (mislynched by town and lost)

NFM17---->Mafioso Win

NFM18:Vigilante suicide lost
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby teaser303 » Sat May 14, 2016 3:04 pm

Hey guys! I am claiming the exclusive role of InvestConsigArsoWitchWolf. Any CCs?
FM Record: 5-9-0

Spoiler: NFM15: Citizen (Win)
NFM16: Citizen (Loss)
NFM18: Citizen (Loss)
CFM17: enderitem [Vamp-Hunting Alignment Cop] (Loss)
TFM26: Ravaged Herd of Arguing Sheep [TPro] (Loss)
SFM21: Nanako Dojima [Citizen] (Win)
CFM18: chitownmvp1 [Citizen] (Loss)
NFM27: Citizen (Loss)
10G: Consigliere (Loss)
TFM32: Vengeful Townie (Loss)
11: Citizen (Win)
TFM45: No Screw YOU [triple-voter] (Win)
TFM46: Vengeful Townie (Lost)
TFM47: Escort (Win)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby Thukk0 » Sat May 14, 2016 3:11 pm

jakob12341 wrote:
Thukk0 wrote:Finally! Hello everyone!


Took some time, didn't it? XD


It did indeed. I'm sure this game will be worth the wait, though!
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Forum Mafia Record: 3 - 3 Spoiler: NFM 15 - Veteran - Win
NFM 18 - Framer - Win
Dark Assembly - Senator Bushwhacker - Got killed before real game began.
CFM17 - Nellyfox - Replaced out D1
SFM20- MirrorrorriM - Loss
TFM27 - Role Cop - Flawless Victory
TFM29 - Cop - Loss
SFM22 - Parity Cop - Loss
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby jakob12341 » Sat May 14, 2016 3:20 pm

Thukk0 wrote:
jakob12341 wrote:
Thukk0 wrote:Finally! Hello everyone!


Took some time, didn't it? XD


It did indeed. I'm sure this game will be worth the wait, though!


Only time will tell :P XD
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FM wins and losses: Spoiler: NFM14---->Escort MyLo (mislynched by town and lost)

NFM17---->Mafioso Win

NFM18:Vigilante suicide lost
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby ItsmeCreature » Sat May 14, 2016 3:25 pm

/vote teaser203
NFM8: Investigator - Loss
NFM9: Consigliere - Loss
CFM14: Engineer - Win
9B: Citizen - (Surely will be a) Loss
9C: Replaced out
9E: Ongoing
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby teaser303 » Sat May 14, 2016 3:26 pm

/vote Itsmecraeture
FM Record: 5-9-0

Spoiler: NFM15: Citizen (Win)
NFM16: Citizen (Loss)
NFM18: Citizen (Loss)
CFM17: enderitem [Vamp-Hunting Alignment Cop] (Loss)
TFM26: Ravaged Herd of Arguing Sheep [TPro] (Loss)
SFM21: Nanako Dojima [Citizen] (Win)
CFM18: chitownmvp1 [Citizen] (Loss)
NFM27: Citizen (Loss)
10G: Consigliere (Loss)
TFM32: Vengeful Townie (Loss)
11: Citizen (Win)
TFM45: No Screw YOU [triple-voter] (Win)
TFM46: Vengeful Townie (Lost)
TFM47: Escort (Win)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby jakob12341 » Sat May 14, 2016 3:35 pm

ItsmeCreature wrote:/vote teaser203


Are you serious? I think teaser was joking or are you rivals or something?
1/2/0
FM wins and losses: Spoiler: NFM14---->Escort MyLo (mislynched by town and lost)

NFM17---->Mafioso Win

NFM18:Vigilante suicide lost
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby teaser303 » Sat May 14, 2016 3:38 pm

So, anyways, serious note here. If you are witched, don't say so! Otherwise, the scum witched can tell his scumbuddy to claim witched and then the witch know who two scum members are. It worked wonders for us in NFM15 as the witch couldn't really figure out who was scum. Any objections?
FM Record: 5-9-0

Spoiler: NFM15: Citizen (Win)
NFM16: Citizen (Loss)
NFM18: Citizen (Loss)
CFM17: enderitem [Vamp-Hunting Alignment Cop] (Loss)
TFM26: Ravaged Herd of Arguing Sheep [TPro] (Loss)
SFM21: Nanako Dojima [Citizen] (Win)
CFM18: chitownmvp1 [Citizen] (Loss)
NFM27: Citizen (Loss)
10G: Consigliere (Loss)
TFM32: Vengeful Townie (Loss)
11: Citizen (Win)
TFM45: No Screw YOU [triple-voter] (Win)
TFM46: Vengeful Townie (Lost)
TFM47: Escort (Win)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby jakob12341 » Sat May 14, 2016 3:44 pm

teaser303 wrote:So, anyways, serious note here. If you are witched, don't say so! Otherwise, the scum witched can tell his scumbuddy to claim witched and then the witch know who two scum members are. It worked wonders for us in NFM15 as the witch couldn't really figure out who was scum. Any objections?


Already heard the story got nothing against it :P
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FM wins and losses: Spoiler: NFM14---->Escort MyLo (mislynched by town and lost)

NFM17---->Mafioso Win

NFM18:Vigilante suicide lost
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby ItsmeCreature » Sat May 14, 2016 3:50 pm

jakob12341 wrote:
ItsmeCreature wrote:/vote teaser203


Are you serious? I think teaser was joking or are you rivals or something?

Nah, it was a joke.

teaser303 wrote:So, anyways, serious note here. If you are witched, don't say so! Otherwise, the scum witched can tell his scumbuddy to claim witched and then the witch know who two scum members are. It worked wonders for us in NFM15 as the witch couldn't really figure out who was scum. Any objections?

Actually scum tend to be more silent about it.

I never tested seeing how it'd work if nobody claimed witched. The good is that the witch can't determine scum by seeing who went silent. The bad is that if there's a lookout, he won't know his target was witched, but the target can still put he was witched at his will since there's no janitor.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM18 | Day 1 "Calm Before the Storm"

Postby murat1996 » Sat May 14, 2016 4:56 pm

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