TFM22 | MiniGIM2 | Game over [Mafia wins]

[teamalex]

That game was balanced(i cant 100% confirm, players know better) and you were given that rolecard.

We're talking about GIM here.

A role that appears twice only in 4000 posts, and picked from probably over 500 different roles.

[Swordsworth]

Good morning. Now that I'm not dead tired...

Neasans, nice claim. I'm willing to let it slide for now. We can think of it this way: if she is an evil version of what she claims to be, she'll run out of life fast. If she's town, she'll probably be alright. If she's lying completely, that'll be easy to work out really soon based on VCA.

[TrueGent]

actually
/vote Kmenx
we have gone over half the day and you haven't done anything
get in here

[teamalex]

Should Neasans give an update, how much life she has left at the end of each day?

I'm trying to think if the pros outweigh the cons.

[TrueGent]

Do we know what numbers equal what actions?

[Hiphoplog]

I haven't seen too much suspicious activity from Kirizie.
I had a suspicion on him last game because of his random tunneling and he was "Town" last game. He did get a Doctor role card.
He's doing the same thing this game as well so I don't really see his tunneling of Neasans as that suspicious. Plus that's all he has done so there isn't anything else to even be suspicious of.

No Gent it's randomiszed each night according to the GIM thread.

[teamalex]

No, I think?

Neasans should know herself though, I think.

[Swordsworth]

It's likely randomized.

/vote Kirize12

Ambiguous behaviour. Ha ha ha.

[Hiphoplog]

Kirizie is at L-2 in case you didn't know with Swords not pointing it out.

[TrueGent]

/unvote
/vote Swords
You should know why

[ladd]

/unvote

[Swordsworth]

Why would I know? Kirize has not done anything alignment indicative.

[TrueGent]

Why was it necessary to push Kirize to L-2?

[Swordsworth]

[META READ]

The only basis for a townread on him rn

I'll leave it at L-2, not only to get more from him, but also because with no way of knowing the number of scum, there's no point holding up L- at an arbitrary area, provided it's not L-1.

I also didn't know it was L-2

[TrueGent]

>Doublevoters
L-2 is barely safe
its also L-3 now

[Hiphoplog]

Dodging RVS is anti town
And so is driving a wagon past L-2 for the record

Didn't you say putting someone at L-1 was suspicious not putting someone at L-2?

[Swordsworth]

Are you proposing that there's a surefire way to know the existence of any number of vote doubles/manipulators?

[ladd]

Do we know what numbers equal what actions?

I don't think so. I am more interested in knowing if Nea would know what action rolled before using it.

Also, who said it's hard to fake? It's pretty easy, having in mind that it's not a long term claim.

With that being said, it's such a strange role to fakeclaim that I am still leaning towards believing it. I would like Nea to answer my question, though.

I actually think that the situation in which they claimed it is more indicative of Town than scum.

Should Neasans give an update, how much life she has left at the end of each day?

I'm trying to think if the pros outweigh the cons.

Probably not, if she is scum, she can just lie about it and if she is Town, it gives scum information.

Thoughts about Vader?

[TrueGent]

Dodging RVS is anti town
And so is driving a wagon past L-2 for the record

Didn't you say putting someone at L-1 was suspicious not putting someone at L-2?

replace "past" with "to"
it was 2am

[TrueGent]

Vader is null rn
they haven't really done much but that's about it

[ladd]

/vote Swordsworth

I would like to hear more about your thoughts.

I still don't understand if you are null reading Kirize or actually scumreading him.

Vader is null rn
they haven't really done much but that's about it

I really disliked their entrance, personally.

Kirize gives us more information though and I think he has a decent chance of flipping scum.

[ladd]

Kirize gives us more information though and I think he has a decent chance of flipping scum.

But then again, I thought the same in the other run of this.

[ladd]

Unofficial Vote Count:
Neasans(1): Kirize12
Swordsworth(2): ladd and TrueGent
Kirize12(3): teamalex, Swordsworth and Neasans

If she's lying completely, that'll be easy to work out really soon based on VCA.

Could you explain this? I assume you mean Vote Count Analysys by VCA.

I have the feeling I am completely misunderstanding Neasans's claim.

[Hiphoplog]

/vote Swords
Honestly I'm more suspicious of this post because it's kind of assuming Gent voted because Swords was suspicious of Kirizie.

Why would I know? Kirize has not done anything alignment indicative.

[Kmenx]

actually
/vote Kmenx
we have gone over half the day and you haven't done anything
get in here

You pulled up a timezone excuse before

And so can I (9 hours school + 2 hours school bus is too much