SFM17 | TM | Traitor Town [Mafia Wins]

[Varanus]

so im not dead. cool.

Of course you're not.
Why would the mafia kill a traitor?
This is a meme.

[Hiphoplog]

Oliy's not someone I think scum typically will roleblock or kill unless they were sure Oliy was a power role.
Oliy often is a policy lynch though so could be an Escort policy roleblocking him.
Traitor could heave either mentality to b honest, but I think a Traitor Escort would be a lot more risky and go after major Town contributors and not Oliy.

What you say

I am not scum because I would definitely not roleblock Oliy as scum. *exaggerated wink*

What I hear


I actually believe there's quite a bit to gain from the death note. The contents are of no value though.

damn you can hear a wink? I want your hearing man.

[TrueGent]

Why are people focusing on the DN that was written by somone who does not have town wincons?
We wont get any good information out of it lmao

[FMLSheWas12]

Uhh moon, why is an overly pro-town player likelier to be scum than a sorta-townish player?

[leyva45]

RBed.

Looks like I found where the Escort roleblock came from.

Multiple people were scumreading Gent day 1 (I don't get why he was being scumread, sense I personally saw nothing out of his town meta, though) it would make sense for an Escort to roleblock him.

[Hiphoplog]

Hip, how is Oily a PL in this game? Or a PB?

That travels across games.
It's like how Neasans is a policy investigate n1.

[Varanus]

Overly town as is tryhard town, not overly town read.

[leyva45]

Moon that logic is just bad, stop.

[Hiphoplog]

While 2 Escorts is possible with only 3 Random Town it's probably Escort and Consort.

[TrueGent]

so does anyone here actually follow the theory that PRs should attempt to play mid range town D1 unless they're extremely powerful, in which case they should take one of the two extremes

are these english words

[Hiphoplog]

3 and 4 are basically the same number. Both have an equal chance to roll Escort.

[leyva45]

While 2 Escorts is possible with only 3 Random Town it's probably Escort and Consort.

Captain Obvious to the rescue!

The grass is green!

The sky is blue!

Hiphoplog, here he comes, to save the day!



Anyways, opinions on who roleblocked gent, and who roleblocked oliy?

[ryanyb]

[quote="moonbird"]so does anyone here actually follow the theory that PRs should attempt to play mid range town D1 unless they're extremely powerful, in which case they should take one of the two extremes
Yes.

[TrueGent]

Given that I believe the Oliy RB was a Consort, the RB on me was probably an Escort.

[Hiphoplog]

While 2 Escorts is possible with only 3 Random Town it's probably Escort and Consort.

Captain Obvious to the rescue!

The grass is green!

The sky is blue!

Hiphoplog, here he comes, to save the day!



Anyways, opinions on who roleblocked gent, and who roleblocked oliy?

Thank you. Thank you. Don't worry guys I will sort this out.

Let's see starting with the fact Obi gave us that Random Town has a higher chance to roll Mafia I do conclude this to be hard evidence of exactly 1 Consort and 1 Escort.
Based on the blending of roleblocks it seams the Gent was blocked by a ort of the Esc whereas the Oil man was by a Consort.

[TrueGent]

Because if an Escort RBed Oliy over literally anyone that has been actually scumread im going to kms

[TrueGent]

good question in that guess
probably a poor attempt at towncred if I had to guess

[TrueGent]

good question in that case
probably a poor attempt at towncred if I had to guess

[Hiphoplog]

Based on the blending of roleblocks it seams the Gent was blocked by a ort of the Esc whereas the Oil man was by a Consort.

Ok. Why do you think a consort would target oliy? It seems we're at a general consensus that esc on true is likely and that a consort is more likely than another escort. But why them specifically?

This is so confusing. You just said an Escort blocked Gent and there is probably a Consort who blocked Oliy but you're asking my why I think there is a Consort over a second Escort I presume?
Well I'll answer that whether or not that was your question. Statistics. Learn 'em.

Really no one has a reason to roleblock Oliy. He's generally the type of guy to be mislynched early on unless someone else steps up to defend him, so Escort makes a little more sense but Consort targeting Gent makes absolute 0 sense so of the 2 Oliy is more likely even if it's not the smartest Mafia move.

[Varanus]

I Dio the next person that unironically says someone is trying to get towncred

[TrueGent]

if the Mafia actually RBed me then we have already won

[leyva45]

Maybe for the Consort could be able to claim Escort? I dunno, really. There was close to no reason for the oliy roleblock unless: scum was rbing oliy to paint him in a good light. I remember this happening in Episode 7, it's a possibility, yes, but I'm doubtful that they would do that for Oliy, considering how he acted on day one.

[leyva45]

Maybe for the Consort could be able to claim Escort? I dunno, really. There was close to no reason for the oliy roleblock unless: scum was rbing oliy to paint him in a good light. I remember this happening in Episode 7, it's a possibility, yes, but I'm doubtful that they would do that for Oliy, considering how he acted on day one.

Does that mean you believe oliy is a traitor?

No, look at the bolded part, please.

[Varanus]

If you're so doubtful about it, what exactly was the reasoning behind throwing it out there like that? Especially considering you're not the first to mention it.

[ryanyb]

FML town slipped.