TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Game Over: Mafia Wins!

[ICECLIMBERS]

This seems like a lose/lose situation. Even if we believe Eldritch and they are Doctor, they end up dead tomorrow night.

I guess we're waiting on PoE and Mels.

Why are you pessimistic? We would have a confirmed town member who is alive for today and likely tomorrow with a chance of getting a heal tonight.

It's simple. If nobody counterclaims him we act as if he was lynched and flipped town.

[TorqueRxF]

If you are not doc, can you NOT say it? you are shortening the mafia's target list.
Eldritch, can you post your top scumreads so far? i still havent seen you do something useful for god's sake.

[ICECLIMBERS]

If you are not doc, can you NOT say it? you are shortening the mafia's target list.
Eldritch, can you post your top scumreads so far? i still havent seen you do something useful for god's sake.

Not saying that you are doctor and saying that you're not doctor are the same thing Torque.

[girisawesomer]

If you are not doc, can you NOT say it? you are shortening the mafia's target list.
Eldritch, can you post your top scumreads so far? i still havent seen you do something useful for god's sake.

I don't think I understand. Do you want the doctor to CC or do you want the not doctors to all CC? Or do you want the doctor to NOT CC?

[ICECLIMBERS]

If you are not doc, can you NOT say it? you are shortening the mafia's target list.
Eldritch, can you post your top scumreads so far? i still havent seen you do something useful for god's sake.

Not saying that you are doctor and saying that you're not doctor are the same thing Torque.

Actually if Eldritch isn't doc they have a point...kind of? Maybe? It makes sense and doesn't...

Actually if he isn't doc the real doc counterclaims. We lynch Eldritch and the doc plays mind games with the mafia.
At worst they die tonight and even then a 1 for 1 trade always works in town's favor.

[TorqueRxF]

I suppose.. but if Eldritch turns out to be mafia and the real doc doesnt want to reveal, saying you are not a doctor just eliminates a name from mafia's list

I want the doctor to act according to his own plan, whether he wants to CC or he believes eldritch is scummy enough to get lynched despite a lack of CC, thats his own choice.

how the hell was that a scum slip ._.

[TorqueRxF]

It would be except the fact Eldritch said that and it doesnt make sense that way...But the fact you want to doctor to "act according to his own plan" makes me think that MAYBE you are scum and Eldritch is doc.

As I said, any role claim is trouble. In the situation where Eldritch is scum and he's fishing for doctor to reveal, I want the doctor himself to make the judgement if counterclaiming is worth it or not. Of course I hope for the very best situation that eldritch gets lynched and doctor doesnt reveal, but maybe the chance of that is slim. All im saying it the doctor should weigh the pros and cons about the move.

[girisawesomer]

It would be except the fact Eldritch said that and it doesnt make sense that way...But the fact you want to doctor to "act according to his own plan" makes me think that MAYBE you are scum and Eldritch is doc.

As I said, any role claim is trouble. In the situation where Eldritch is scum and he's fishing for doctor to reveal, I want the doctor himself to make the judgement if counterclaiming is worth it or not. Of course I hope for the very best situation that eldritch gets lynched and doctor doesnt reveal, but maybe the chance of that is slim. All im saying it the doctor should weigh the pros and cons about the move.

So you're saying the doctor should not CC, we still don't believe Eldritch and lynch him, and Eldritch is scum? But then what if Eldritch is the doctor? This plan is not worth it at all. If someone does CC, Eldritch gets lynched and if Eldritch is town the CC gets lynched. At least we get a mafia member that way. Your way can end in the doctor dead with no known mafia member.

[melanora]

I'm trying to reply on mobile but it is very hard. I'll be home from the hospital in the morning if I pass my tests (the princess passed hers already) so you cab wait till then for more in depth, but I'm going to try doing it later tonight.

In the meantime...

<insert you are really dumb for real meme here>

[TorqueRxF]

Giri, my view is somewhere in the middle. If the doctor wants to CC or not CC thats his choice, depending on the situation. If the consensus is still lynch Eldritch despite the lack of CC, why would the doctor CC at all? I just hope for the best situation.
I still dont think Eldritch is the real doc here, explained by a post earlier.

I dont think he is the sheriff nor the doctor or else he prolly would reveal by now

his reveal is after I said this and I think it could be a plan to lure the real doc out.
We got different opinions, thats all.

[girisawesomer]

Would anyone else like to tell how the feel about the Xanet + Torque pairing? I think it fits perfectly

Uh, I'm not too sure about the "Xanet knew Torque would be nothing but a pain at first sight, and planned to ditch her as soon as she made a mistake" storyline you've come up with.

[TorqueRxF]

If doc CCing Eldritch is the consensus, fine. we'll see how it turns out after melanora and theninja officially responds to this matter

[melanora]

Anyone claiming doc on day one is either stupid or cowgod.

[TorqueRxF]

your accusation on me and xanet is based on ...what?
it's baseless and all i can say right now is im town, i dont have a partner.
give me a reason so i can shatter it.

Right now im gonna have dinner brb

[melanora]

Anyone claiming doc on day one is either stupid or cowgod.

What exactly are you saying here?

That both of them are stupid.

[melanora]

Also one of the two of them dies today.

[melanora]

Also one of the two of them dies today.

Two of who?

Didn't leyva claim doc as well?

[ICECLIMBERS]

/unvote
I'm notdoctor.

Ugh, I didn't expect that.

Mel I think you need some more sleep

[melanora]

/unvote
I'm notdoctor.

Ugh, I didn't expect that.

Mel I think you need some more sleep

... And notleyva is not leyva.

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I'm going to sleep now.
Sob

But seriously who the fuck claims doc on day one with minimal pressure? If the best defense you can come up with is to claim your role, you suck.

[melanora]

You are bad, and you should feel bad.

[melanora]

Jfc this is not nfm. Why the fuck do so many people need their hand held?

[TorqueRxF]

I looked back a bit and saw the only reason Eldritch says me and Xanet are scum buddies is that im a dingdong and Xanet knows that so he jumps out and busses me the moment I screw up?
first I dont have a scum buddy. second I dont know how Xanet plays and Xanet doesnt know how I play. third i have played in one other game known as 8C, and Iceclimbers at least read part of it, so he knows im not a dingdong!
Do you have a real reason?

[melanora]

You are bad, and you should feel bad.

Oh and thanks mel, nice way to support the town

You claim to be one of the two town power roles... And publicly claimed day one. Nice way to support the town.

[ICECLIMBERS]

Mela we get how stupid Eldritchs play was, suck it up and deal with it.

Ugh, I don't know who to fucking lynch now, I'd say we lynch Xanet for how hard he was pressuring Eldritch, he was even calling him "confirmed scum"

PoE was calling him that as well you know. Or maybe he was the only person saying that.

Xanet, you jumped onto Eldritch's wagon against Torque once he claimed doctor... appeasement much?

I'll likely reread the thread tomorrow once I feel more alive.

If Ninja claims doc I'm voting Eldritch immediately.

[ICECLIMBERS]

Really at this point Eldritch is confirmed scum. I'm still leaning towards leyva being scum, but I can see where ICE is coming from. I'll at least wait for Ninja and Mel's replacement to chime in before I go all batshit insane again.

What do you make of this Leyva?