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TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Game Over: Mafia Wins!

Postby Invenio » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:55 pm


Alternating TFM
One at a time. We don't want you to get ahead of yourselves!
Let's try a much less complicated game before the storm starts.


1) Be active. This is my BIGGEST pet peeve. This particular game will be shorter and faster than the others so make sure you have time to play!

2) Roles will be randomly determined from the role list specified below. Once all players are signed up, I will use Random.org to assign roles to everyone. No complaining; give all roles a chance. It's a learning experience!

3) Days will be 48 hours (2 real-life days). Be sure to send me an action during the day phase to speed this process up. This game will be nightless.

4) There will be no whispers this game.

5) After 24 hours if a player has not posted I will prod them for inactivity. If they do not reply or post within 6 hours they will be replaced. If I prod them again, they will be replaced.

Special rules:
The town may choose to lynch on day one.
Mafia has continuous daychat.
Mafia has a single factional kill each night with two vanilla mafia members with no other action.
The Sheriff may only interrogate on even numbered nights (2,4,6...)
The Doctor may only heal on odd numbered nights (1,3,5...)
Mafia wins when their numbers are equal to or greater than 50% of the town.

Rolelist:

Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Even Sheriff
Odd Doctor

Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon


Signed-up players:
1. melanorabecauseimbatman
2. notleyva Leyva45
3. PoEJesus
4. ICECLIMBERS
5. TorqueRxF
6. Xanet734
7. TheNinja476 Ronit
8. Girisawesomer
9. EldritchSupremacy

Graveyard:
PoEJesus - Citizen
EldritchSupremacy - Odd Doctor
Girisaweomser - Mafia Goon
Leyva45 - Even Sheriff
Xanet734 - Citizen
becauseimbatman - Citizen

Timeline:
Day 2
Day 3
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Setup Phase

Postby Invenio » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:56 pm

I'll send out the rolecards over the holidays then unlock the thread on the 26th to avoid the holiday inactivity.

Sample rolecards to destroy meta:


Mafia Goon
Spoiler: Goon

You are a Goon

Your alignment is Mafia Goon

Each night you may decide with your ally on who to make a factional kill on.
You can communicate with your allies during the day/night for as long as they are alive.
[Quicktopic link here]

Your ally is _____.

You win with the Mafia
You must kill the Town


Odd Doctor
Spoiler: Odd Doctor

You are a Odd Doctor.

Your alignment is Town Protective.

You are this town's doctor, and have kept everybody healthy for years.

You have the ability to visit one person each odd-numbered night (1,3,5...). If they are attacked that night, you arrive just in time to save their life.
If your target is attacked, both you and your target will receive a message saying your target was attacked but healed.
You also have 1 self-heal, allowing you to instead save yourself if you are attacked.
You can only use the self-heal once, regardless of if you are attacked or not that night, so use it wisely.

You win with the Town
You must kill the Mafia


Even Sheriff
Spoiler: Even Sheriff

You are an Even Sheriff.

Your alignment is Town Investigative.

You are the Sheriff in this town and your role is to enforce the law.

Every even-numbered night (2,4,6...) you have the ability to investigate one town member to see if they're up to anything suspicious.
If your target is a member of the Mafia you will know.

You win with the Town
You must kill the Mafia


Citizen
Spoiler: Citizen

You are a Citizen.

Your alignment is Town Citizen.

You don't have any special ability and just try to live your life in peace.

Each day you get to vote in an attempt to remove the Mafia from the community.

You win with the Town
You must kill the Mafia
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby Invenio » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:04 pm


Day 1 Begins!

Why is it that those with skills are so... lazy? Or at least that's how it appears to the citizens. They can't seem to both be in business on the same day. There's murderers out there. The rest of this town is going to have to step it up if they're ever going to catch them!

The thread is now open for discussion. The day will end when a majority vote is made, be it a NoLynch or on a player. Otherwise, it will end when 2 days pass.
Dawn of the 1st day. 48 hours remain.
Day 1 will end on 12/29, 2:00pm (CST), or when a majority vote is reached.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby girisawesomer » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:20 pm

Hi, everyone. It would be good to be back, if I wasn't vomiting into a bowl.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby Invenio » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:22 pm

>_>
<_<

Does not.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:32 pm

PoEJesus wrote:May the odds be ever in your favor.

It looks like we have a pretty even playing field here.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby TorqueRxF » Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:35 pm

von karma you fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally unlocked the thread
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby TorqueRxF » Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:52 pm

Even if we lynch a townie right now, we'll be at 5v2 tomorrow and still will be okay. Plus even a town lynch gives us info so we should use our lynch.

EldritchSupremacy wrote:
PoEJesus wrote:
EldritchSupremacy wrote:Okay, so I'm going to cut to the chase. We have a lynch and I say we should use it.

No shit sherlock

Glad we are on the same page, I was concerned others would be much more cautious of it. Also I do not trust NotLeyva tbh


Why Leyva specifically? that's making me think you are sheeping PoE without much of a reason on your own.
You shouldnt trust anybody at this point
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby girisawesomer » Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:57 pm

Yeah, I thinking lynching is the best way to go. If we don't have someone that is uber-scummy, lynch the biggest liability. Better now than when we NEED to be correct.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby girisawesomer » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:00 pm

EldritchSupremacy wrote:
TorqueRxF wrote:Why Leyva specifically? that's making me think you are sheeping PoE without much of a reason on your own.
You shouldnt trust anybody at this point

You are right we shouldn't, but the way Leyva was acting before with the whole "I'm not Leyva" stunt rubs me wrong.

What did you see that as?
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby TorqueRxF » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:08 pm

PoEJesus wrote:Yeah so leyva is obv scum and Eldritch is finding a way to bus his teammate without sheeping me. GG


more likely if leyva is scum, eldritch is not, or if eldritch is scum, leyva is not. bussing D1 when nobody has any clue except PBPA is just dumb imo
im actually leaning towards eldritch is the scum for being a farm animal earlier
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:20 pm

EldritchSupremacy wrote:
TorqueRxF wrote:Why Leyva specifically? that's making me think you are sheeping PoE without much of a reason on your own.
You shouldnt trust anybody at this point

You are right we shouldn't, but the way Leyva was acting before with the whole "I'm not Leyva" stunt rubs me wrong.

What's wrong about it? I don't see anything scummy about those posts.

girisawesomer wrote:Yeah, I thinking lynching is the best way to go. If we don't have someone that is uber-scummy, lynch the biggest liability. Better now than when we NEED to be correct.

Who would you recommend?

EldritchSupremacy wrote:Leyva especially is being defensive toward my distrust of them. I didn't even scum read them like PoE

Then what differentiates a scum read and "rubbing you the wrong way?"

TorqueRxF wrote:
PoEJesus wrote:Yeah so leyva is obv scum and Eldritch is finding a way to bus his teammate without sheeping me. GG


more likely if leyva is scum, eldritch is not, or if eldritch is scum, leyva is not. bussing D1 when nobody has any clue except PBPA is just dumb imo
im actually leaning towards eldritch is the scum for being a farm animal earlier

Scum often like to distance themselves D1. Although this
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EldritchSupremacy wrote:
TorqueRxF wrote:Why Leyva specifically? that's making me think you are sheeping PoE without much of a reason on your own.
You shouldnt trust anybody at this point

You are right we shouldn't, but the way Leyva was acting before with the whole "I'm not Leyva" stunt rubs me wrong.

yeah i'd scum read someone for this am i right!?

I'm totally notanobviousalt /s

doesn't seem SvS to me.
I'd put Leyva as most likely to flip town between the pair. Partly because Eldritch, as Torque mentioned, seems to be sheeping off of PoE. PoE made a large presence of himself. Easy town cred.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:27 pm

EldritchSupremacy wrote:
PoEJesus wrote:
EldritchSupremacy wrote:Okay, so I'm going to cut to the chase. We have a lynch and I say we should use it.

No shit sherlock

Glad we are on the same page, I was concerned others would be much more cautious of it. Also I do not trust NotLeyva tbh


This doesn't seem like you lacked confidence. :|
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby girisawesomer » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:29 pm

ICECLIMBERS wrote:
girisawesomer wrote:Yeah, I thinking lynching is the best way to go. If we don't have someone that is uber-scummy, lynch the biggest liability. Better now than when we NEED to be correct.

Who would you recommend?


I only know about half of the people(mels, you, leyva and ninja), but out of them Ninja definitely stands out.

PoE is already coming off as brash though. Being assertive is a good thing in FM, but being annoying with it isn't.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby TorqueRxF » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:29 pm

EldritchSupremacy wrote:Leyva's stunt in the beginning was unnecessary, maybe I just haven't played enough FM games to know what usually happens, but it just felt off. And my idea of a scum read is confidently saying someone is scum, and I'm not confidant Leyva is scum, just that they rub me the wrong way


what... joking in the first ten posts is scummy now? Oh man TheCow has gotta be scum every single game then. Seriously tho dont be so tense about a little joke.
Ice, do you mean Leyva and Eldritch doesnt seem SvS because leyva sounds almost condescending towards Eldritch?
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:33 pm

TorqueRxF wrote:
EldritchSupremacy wrote:Leyva's stunt in the beginning was unnecessary, maybe I just haven't played enough FM games to know what usually happens, but it just felt off. And my idea of a scum read is confidently saying someone is scum, and I'm not confidant Leyva is scum, just that they rub me the wrong way


what... joking in the first ten posts is scummy now? Oh man TheCow has gotta be scum every single game then. Seriously tho dont be so tense about a little joke.
Ice, do you mean Leyva and Eldritch doesnt seem SvS because leyva sounds almost condescending towards Eldritch?

Leyva's reaction didn't seem like one scumbuddies could do. I wouldn't call it condescending. Defensive would be a better term.

Scumreading somebody for taking a joke too seriously is stupid; I'm more concerned over the backtracking.
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Postby TorqueRxF » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:36 pm

im not scumreading him for taking a joke too seriously. im scumreading him for using it as a farfetched explaination for basically saying "Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh" to PoE in the first page >.>
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:37 pm

TorqueRxF wrote:im not scumreading him for taking a joke too seriously. im scumreading him for using it as a farfetched explaination for basically saying "Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh" to PoE in the first page >.>

I wasn't referring to you in specific.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:55 pm

PoEJesus wrote:
notleyva wrote:PoE is just annoying at this point, just ignore him.

Yeah chainsawing. Both scum found. You just try to discredit me so people don't realize you're scumbuddies.

Chainsawing is null until the defendant flips scum.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby Invenio » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:01 pm

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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby girisawesomer » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:34 pm

leyva why is the bussing argument bad? I think I've just seen "it's a joke, it's bad." not an actual explanation. Or I'm blind.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby girisawesomer » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:36 pm

Xanet734 wrote:
girisawesomer wrote:leyva why is the bussing argument bad? I think I've just seen "it's a joke, it's bad." not an actual explanation. Or I'm blind.

Just think about it. No one is to the point where it is beneficial and there's only two scum.

I wanted to hear what leyva thought, so thanks.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby TorqueRxF » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:37 pm

Both Leyva and Eldritch arent even close to a being 100% lynch targets yet. we got 1.75 more days and 3 more players to report in to the game, things will likely change as time goes on, nobody can make a statement saying either Leyva or Eldritch is confirmed scum right now.
That being said, Leyva accused PoE for sheeping. Leyva didnt defend shit.
And I can say with almost certainty that Leyva is not bussing Eldritch, first reason, as I said earlier, Eldritch isnt a lost cause if he's scum, we still have time to discuss and people to listen to. Second, bussing someone Day 1 to the point of being the number one suspect... uhh with only two mafias, isnt that really costly for the mafia?

Eldritch wrote:No, I'm saying that Leyva is or at least was trying to buddy me and capitalize on your accusation of me and him being scum


Why would scum buddy you? They cant be happier if lynching you is a mislynch as you say. PoE just pisses her off, understandable tbh.
and she didnt defend you ._.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby Invenio » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:59 pm

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Yes, wills and death notes will be accepted this game. I forgot to put that in the OP.
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Re: TFM15 | Alternating TFM | Day 1 (Witty Title Here!)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:43 pm

Xanet734 wrote:
EldritchSupremacy wrote:Okay so yeah, Leyva is suspiciously defending me and I don't really know why...

OK this made it even worse. Now it seems like eldritch is trying to get away from leyva, who coincidentally is under fire.

It's possible that Eldritch is, in an effort to avoid the noose, trying to push for leyva to get lynched before he does. He also doesn't seem to hold any firm opinions. Here, for instance, he "doesn't really know why" despite calling Leyva's activity "suspicious." Not sure what the latter part of the sentence refers to, but if somebody is suspiciously defending you they're buddying. Either that or he doesn't know why he thinks Leyva is suspicious to him.
Not a fan of Leyva's buddying but Eldritch's avoidance to points Xanet brought up, as well as my own point about his backtracking earlier on (unless I missed it, a lot of pages 3 and 4 seem too muddled...) make him the likelier from the pair.

Townread on Xanet. His pushing on Eldritch seems legitimate with his questioning regarding Eldritch's statements in isolation from others' posts.
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