[Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Game Over

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[Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Game Over

Postby Metrion » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:10 am

Newcomer Forum Mafia


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  • A "newbie" classifies someone new to FM who doesn't have quite the hang of the game yet, or just someone new to the "mafia" genre in general. Experience from other forums may carry over.
  • You must have played in two (2) games or less to be considered a newcomer, barring a few cases. Any more than that, you will have to be invited by the mod after PM'ing them.

Features:
  • A gamemode specifically made as a starting point for new players, with a couple of mod-invited experienced players. They'd still be playing to win, but also to guide the newer players and to keep a ToS FM style flow.
  • A queue-based signups.
  • D1 FAQ (FM etymology, mechanics explanation, general FM introduction, etc.)
  • Player-by-player in-depth reviews post game, aiming towards improving each player's skill level.

Unused roles:
Spoiler: Mayor, Lawyer, Jailor, Retributionist, Transporter
Godfather, Prankster, Agent
Neutral Benigns, Jester, Executioner, Bomber, Neutral Killings


Vigilante and Spy Role Card Change
Spoiler: Vigilante

You are a Vigilante.

Your alignment is Town Killing.

You believe that the law of this town is useless against the evil-doers in your town and have decided to take matters into your own hands.

Each night you may decide to shoot and kill one town member you believe to be evil.
However, if the person you shoot turns out to be Town, you will be overcome with grief and vow never to shoot again.
You only have 3 bullets, allowing you to perform your night action up to 3 times. Make them count.
You may not shoot on the first night.

You win with the Town
You win with Survivors
You must kill the Mafia
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Witches
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Stalkers
You must kill Bombers
You may spare anyone else

Spy

You are a Spy.

Your alignment is Town Investigative.

You were once used in battle with the goal of gaining information about enemy tactics.
You were able to retire young, having gained the support of the military who in turn paid you very handsomely.
However, your stay in the town of Salem does not remain the peaceful retirement you once envisioned due to the Mafia invasion.

You can choose once during the day to sensor all votes on a lynch, you will determine how many town members voted on that lynch.
You may decide to do this within the first 24 hours of the Day Phase. If you do not do this, you listen to no one during the day.
You also have the ability to see who the Mafia visit at night. You will not know what Mafia role visited which player; all you will know is that they were visited by a member of the Mafia.

You win with the Town
You win with Survivors
You must kill the Mafia
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Witches
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Stalkers
You must kill Bombers
You may spare anyone else


Investigation Results:

Spoiler: Your target is very skilled in their line of work. They must be an Sheriff, Investigator, or Consigliere!
Your target is familiar with death. They must be a Medium, Doctor or Janitor!
Your target has a disruptive presence. They must be an Escort, Marshal or Consort!
Your target watches others closely. They must be a Spy, Lookout or Blackmailer!
Your target is very full of themselves. They must be a Bodyguard, Disguiser or Witch!
Your target owns guns. They must be a Vigilante, Veteran or Mafioso!
Your target is involved with deception. They must be a Framer!
Your target is an ordinary townsfolk. They must be a Citizen!


Sheriff Results
Spoiler: Your target is Not Suspicious. (Non-mafia)
Your target is Suspicious! (Mafia member or framed)



Rolelist:
Spoiler: Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Mafioso OR Janitor OR Consigliere
Consigliere OR Framer OR Consort
Blackmailer OR Disguiser OR Mafioso

Witch

No whispers. Only one Citizen may roll in Random Town.
Only 1 Mafioso will be allowed to roll, if there is one.



Players:

  1. Jordarrian
  2. KingOfEvil
  3. becauseimbatman
  4. Lokiben
  5. Latewood
  6. frootiemel
  7. Xanet734
  8. NDM
  9. moonbird
  10. ObiWan
  11. Melanora
  12. TheCow
  13. Swordsworth

Graveyard:

Jordarrian (Shot by Mafia Night 1, Citizen)


Timeline of Events

Night 1 (Feeling Lucky?) and Day 2 (All's Fair)
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Preparing

Postby Metrion » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:26 am

Sending out confirmation pms now. Afterwards you will be given your rolecard.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Preparing

Postby Metrion » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:09 pm

Introduction and mechanics.

First of all, welcome to the third NFM game. Some of you have already played before, while others are brand new, so I'll try to keep this simple and I'm pressed for time so this is ripped from the previous games.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia), with, most of the time, a third-party (neutrals) trying to fufill their own goals along the way. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-foward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team, and all neutrals with a night killing ability (Neutral Killings*). While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".
*Note: There are no Neutral Killings in this current game, due to the lower amount of players.

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • The former is when the players post on the gamethread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. This is also when Whispers* are sent. The first day lasts 24 hours but no lynchs occur during it. The following days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player is lynched, they are killed and removed from the game, with their role and last will (if they have one) being shown to public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it (unless jailed). **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

*Note: There are no whispers present in this game.
**Note: Day chat is currently allowed. Mafia does not have day chat in regular games, unless a role in play specifically states otherwise.


The game will only end once one of the major factions (or a NK) fufills their condition.

PM Protocols
When sending me the information below, make sure one of the following is in the subject line:
"NFM Last Will" for Last Wills.
"NFM Death Note" for Death Notes.
"NFM Night Action" for Night Actions.

Mafia Tactical is in play: Meaning - Any memeber of the Mafia may sacrifice their night action to make the factional kill at night.
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Terminology.

General terms:

Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors.
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Last Will: A personal "diary", per see, in which the player may choose to write whatever they consider relevant. Automatically revealed upon death.

Slightly more uncommon terms:

FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night (and in the case of this game, during the day), the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to progress discussion in a fashion which will be benefitial to the town, try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post reads regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

Playing as Neutral

Witch is the only neutral available to roll. Their goal and play style is a mix between that of the Town and Mafia. They want to be actively hunting scum and trying to figure out who they win with and who they don't, applying one of the best night actions in the game accordingly; either to get into contact or to severely hinder. However they do not want to be getting scum lynched themselves, so they also have to play similar to the Mafia in the regard that they do want the town to be successful. Above all they need to look out for number 1; themselves.


Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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For anything else, feel free to ask me, the experienced players and/or take a look at the FM Main Hub.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Preparing

Postby Metrion » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:30 pm

Salem, now this is a place one could get used to. Quiet and peaceful, that is until...

A lot of hushed whispers and looks were being sent around the town square. You being curious what the matter was take a stop near the alehouse, you always knew that that's the place to go if you ever want to be informed, and with all the town members looking so subdued as they went about today, it was making you uneasy. The story is that several members of the town have been recruited by the Mafia. You shudder, recalling how you dread that organization. Dismissing it all as gossip to those telling their grand tales, you leave them and head on your way, across the brook and over into the outskirts of town. Your thoughts still occupied and tangled around those rumors. By the time you arrive you can see your two co-workers...hmm, you disliked that term. Perhaps co-conspirators was a more direct term.

Anxiously you tell them the news. It seems the word has travelled fast. Their expressions look worried. It's too late to go back now. You've bought in; with more than money.

Tonight, plan b would be set in motion. Regrettably this was the only choice.

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Day 1 begins! Day 1 will end on November 17th 7:30 pm [UTC -4]

Note to players, all other day phases will last an entire week.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Preparing

Postby TheCow » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:32 pm

protect me for a free win~~~~~~
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby ObiWan » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:38 pm

Hey guys. I'm about to head into work, so I'll have to comment more when I get home .

If you have questions don't be afraid to ask us here or in a PM to Met.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby Swordsworth » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:48 pm

Hi everybody, here's to a good game! If you have any questions about anything, don't hesitate to ask.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby Lokiben » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:00 pm

Currently at Uno's with the fam
Ready for round two
Will check in later
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby NDM » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:02 pm

Hello. Hi. What's up?
Spoiler: Thanks Archo and sorry for rushing you

Anyone who thinks they can debate me without evidence cannot win a debate. Anyone who just uses one quote as a point shows they are the failure, and prove the opposing side.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Preparing

Postby becauseimbatman » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:13 pm

TheCow wrote:protect me for a free win~~~~~~

Lynch Cow for a free win. Kidding.

Anyways, I'll begin posting more once I get home. Public wifi doesn't do me any justice, especially on a phone.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby KingOfEvil » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:02 pm

Hi everyone! Best of luck to all, and most importantly have fun!

This will be my first forum mafia game, so please bear with any misunderstandings I may have throughout. I'll try my best to fully learn all the jargon used here.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby Lokiben » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:10 pm

KingOfEvil wrote:Hi everyone! Best of luck to all, and most importantly have fun!

This will be my first forum mafia game, so please bear with any misunderstandings I may have throughout. I'll try my best to fully learn all the jargon used here.


This was me just a few weeks ago :')

Hey mafia, I know that you're kinda obligated to kill an experienced player tonight, but it'd be cool if you didn't kill Swordsworth, because I feel bad that I killed him n1 last game because I misunderstood something he said and thought he was a Trump supporter. :/

Protect me for a free Barnes and Noble gift card and infinite sexual favors.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby becauseimbatman » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:55 pm

I guess I'll use the day for something.

What does CI stand for? I remember seeing it referenced a couple of times in NFM2 and I think it meant someone who had experience in the game.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby TheCow » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:57 pm

becauseimbatman wrote:I guess I'll use the day for something.

What does CI stand for? I remember seeing it referenced a couple of times in NFM2 and I think it meant someone who had experience in the game.

IC. It doesn't really mean anything, but when people use it, they're referring to the experienced players who are playing in NFM.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby Lokiben » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:07 pm

"Inexperience challenged"
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby melanora » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:27 pm

Hello, Everyone! I'm Melanora, and I'm another experienced player. Before we even begin, important stuff first:

/vote ObiWan

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID.
Anyways.

I am going to go ahead and let you know now what to expect from me, and hopefully the rest of the experienced players, except for Cow, who is either going to be CowGod or RoadCow, depending on what he feels like doing. Yes, I am offering you up as the Night One sacrifice. This is the only game I'm in right now, and dammit, I'm not giving it up.

What I will do:
I will help you to form a defense if the light is shined onto you.
I will help you see the possible scenarios as to what is going on.
I will ask you questions to help you better explain yourself and what you see happening.
I will give you my honest reads on how I see people aligned.
I will post a big list with the countdown clock, the role list, player ISO, and night actions, which:
I will maintain throughout the duration of being alive.

What I will not do:
I will not tell you what to think.
I will not force my opinion onto you.
I will not bully you into voting with me.

What I will try to not do but probably will do anyways:
Yell at you if you are fucking stupid. [ note: inexperience does not equal stupidity ]
Occasionally yell in general because I'm pregnant.
Talk about how I would eat everything in sight if I could.

Now, let's all have a good game, and if you have any questions, even if they seem stupid. I promise none of us really bite. Unless it's Obi. Never trust Obi.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby TheCow » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:32 pm

If I die N1 I'm going to quit life.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby melanora » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:32 pm

TheCow wrote:If I die N1 I'm going to quit life.


If you die N1, I will thank you for your sacrifice, and then eat a burger.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby TheCow » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:34 pm

good thing im being protected for that sweet sweet freelo~~~
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NFM3 Day 1 BIG POST

Postby melanora » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:46 pm




Role List:
Spoiler: Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Mafioso OR Janitor OR Consigliere
Consigliere OR Framer OR Consort
Blackmailer OR Disguiser OR Mafioso


Witch


Player Post List
Spoiler: MOD POSTS
Jordarrian
KingOfEvil
becauseimbatman
Lokiben
Latewood
frootiemel
Xanet734
NDM
moonbird
ObiWan
Melanora
TheCow
Swordsworth
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby melanora » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:54 pm

A few things before we get going:

1. An experienced player will die tonight if any experienced players are on Mafia. It's FM policy that we don't kill new players on Night One.
2. Swordsworth died last game so he's probably fine tonight. No one is that much of an asshole.
3. DO NOT CLAIM. do not claim. DO NOT CLAIM. do not claim. DO NOT CLAIM.
4. Seriously, do not claim.
5. Reads are very good.
6. Day One is good for chit chat / shitposting.
7. Never trust Obi.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby becauseimbatman » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:02 pm

melanora wrote:A few things before we get going:

1. An experienced player will die tonight if any experienced players are on Mafia. It's FM policy that we don't kill new players on Night One.
2. Swordsworth died last game so he's probably fine tonight. No one is that much of an asshole.
3. DO NOT CLAIM. do not claim. DO NOT CLAIM. do not claim. DO NOT CLAIM.
4. Seriously, do not claim.
5. Reads are very good.
6. Day One is good for chit chat / shitposting.
7. Never trust Obi.

1. A Mafia full of new players might do the same as the experienced players are the biggest threats.
2. "probably"

Also, thanks mel for that clock. I can already see that being helpful since it isn't a hassle.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby NDM » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:03 pm

No everyone knows you hardclaim a town power D1
Spoiler: Thanks Archo and sorry for rushing you

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby becauseimbatman » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:05 pm

NDM wrote:No everyone knows you hardclaim a town power D1

Even better, claim NK.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 3 | Day 1 (A Keen Sense Of Despair)

Postby NDM » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:08 pm

becauseimbatman wrote:
NDM wrote:No everyone knows you hardclaim a town power D1

Even better, claim NK.


No I actually did that. I did not die till the end
Spoiler: Thanks Archo and sorry for rushing you

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