[Newcomer FM] NFM1 | "Getting Schooled" (Town & Exe Wins!)

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[Newcomer FM] NFM1 | "Getting Schooled" (Town & Exe Wins!)

Postby Arcthurus » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:30 pm

Newcomer Forum Mafia


General Rules:

  1. Be respectful. Should be self-explanatory. No tolerance against racial/homophobic/sexist remarks. If you feel this rule isn't being followed, send the moderator in question a PM.
  2. Do not discuss the game outside of the thread unless otherwise stated. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  3. Do not quote any messages from / conversations with the moderator. If you have a question about this, ask the mod.
  4. Do not gamethrow. "Gamethrowing" means actively trying to undermine your, or your faction's, chances of winning.
  5. If you are inactive for more than 36 hours, you will receive a prod, and have 18 hours to reply. If you do not reply within 18 hours, you will be removed. However if your posts are found to not actually try to include content to futher the game, they will not count towards resetting the prod timer. Said content is evaluated under the moderator's discretion. You will be told if your post is valid or not.
  6. Quoting and then editing another player's post for the purpose of misleading is prohibited. Editing to simply cut down the post content to what is relevant is allowed.
  7. Any breaking of the above rules will be treated on a case by case basis - some will receive a warning, while others might result in higher punishment.
  8. Be sure to look at ObiWan's Rules for more info, some of the rolecards that will be used and the ECO if you don't know how a situation is handled.
  9. Lastly, If you have any questions, feel free to ask the moderator. We'll be glad to answer any doubts you may have.

Rolelist:
Spoiler: Town Investigative
Town Protective
Random Town
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Mafioso OR Consort OR Consig
Consigliere OR Framer OR Janitor
Agent OR Disguiser OR Consort


Executioner OR Jester

No whispers. Only one Citizen may roll in Random Town.

Unused roles:
Mayor, Lawyer, Jailor, Retributionist, Transporter.
Godfather, Blackmailer, Prankster
Neutral Benigns, Witch, Bomber, Neutral Killings

Investigation Results:

Your target is very skilled in their line of work. They must be an Investigator, Bodyguard or Consigliere!
Your target is familiar with death. They must be a Medium, Doctor or Janitor!
Your target has a disruptive presence. They must be an Escort, Marshal or Consort!
Your target is secretive. They must be a Spy, Lookout or Agent!
Your target is very full of themselves. Sheriff, Disguiser, or Executioner!
Your target owns guns. They must be a Vigilante, Veteran or Mafioso!
Your target is involved with deception. They must be a Framer, or Jester!
Your target is an ordinary townsfolk. They must be a Citizen!

Sheriff Results:
Your target is Not Suspicious. (Non-mafia)
Your target is Suspicious! (Mafia member of framed)


Features:
  • A gamemode specifically made as a starting point for new players, with a couple of mod-invited experienced players. They'd be playing less to win, and more to guide the game to a natural conclusion.
  • A queue-based signups.
  • D1 FAQ (FM terminology, mechanics explanation, general FM introduction, etc.)
  • Player-by-player in-depth reviews post game, aiming towards improving each player's skill level.

Player List:
  1. Rossendale
  2. RhazhBash
  3. Mindslayer
  4. CJBlack44
  5. MamiT0m0e
  6. Swordsworth (replaced Kindred)
  7. Kmenx
  8. Cyantic (replaced cheeseybrain)
  9. Metrion
  10. Alouvre
  11. TheCow

Posts Summary:

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    Arcthurus [Mod]
  1. Rossendale
  2. RhazhBash
  3. Mindslayer
  4. CJBlack44
  5. MamiT0m0e
  6. Swordsworth (Kindred)
  7. Kmenx
  8. Cyantic (cheeseybrain)
  9. Metrion
  10. Alouvre
  11. TheCow


Graveyard:

Metrion, Marshal, killed by the mafia N1.
TheCow, Mafioso, lynched D2.
Kmenx, Framer, lynched D3.
Mindslayer, Citizen, lyched D4.
Cyantic, Agent, lynched D5.

Timeline of Events:

Night 1 - Curfew; Day 2 - Tag, You're it
Night 2 - Karma is a...; Day 3 - Before The Storm
Night 3 - Red Paint; Day 4 - No Storm, Apparently
Night 4 - White Lamb; Game Ends

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby Arcthurus » Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:08 am

Game Moderator Message: Roles have been sent yesterday, just waiting on a few to reply.


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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby Arcthurus » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:27 pm

Introduction and mechanics.

First of all, welcome to the first NFM game. Some of you have already played before, while others are bland new, so I'll try to keep this simple.
Forum Mafia, or FM in short, is a game about deception between the two main factions: The uninformed majority (town) and the informed minority (mafia), with, most of the time, a third-party (neutrals) trying to fufill their own goals along the way. Logic, mind games, etc. are all part and usual of mafia.

Town and Mafia both have pretty straight-foward win conditions: eliminate the opposite team, and all neutrals with a night killing ability (Neutral Killings*). While the mafia has the opportunity to kill periodically, the town cannot rely on their own killing roles to win the game - for that, they must vote to kill a player by "lynch".
*Note: There are no Neutral Killings in this current game, due to the lower amount of players.

The game is divided in two phases: the Day, and the Night.

  • The former is when the players post on the gamethread, discussing about what happened during the night, other players and who should be voted for the lynch. This is also when Whispers* are sent. The first day lasts 24 hours but no lynchs occur during it. The following days last 120 hours (5 real-life days) and lynches are allowed, these which will occur after the majority has been reached. To vote, just post "/vote PlayerNameExample". When a player is lynched, they are killed and removed from the game, with their role and last will (if they have one) being shown to public.
  • The latter is a 48-hour period where any player who has a night action may use it (unless jailed). **During this phase the Mafia privately talks on their mafia chat. After the 48 hours are over, all actions are carried out, and the personal results of this phase shall be privately messaged (PM'd) to each player.

*Note: There are no whispers present in this game.
**Note: Day chat is currently allowed. Mafia does not have day chat in regular games, unless a role in play specifically states otherwise.


The game will only end once one of the major factions (or a NK) fufills their condition.

PM Protocols:
"NFM Last Will" for Last Wills.
"NFM Death Note" for Death Notes.
"NFM Night Action" for Night Actions.

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Terminology.

General terms:

Role Card: The PM which contains the player's role, alignment and abilities.
Game Throwing: Playing against your win condition with the intent of making your own faction lose.
Hard Claim: Directly stating one's own role on the game thread.
Soft Claim: Hinting one's role without explicity stating it.
Counter Claim (CC): Making a claim which directly contradicts someone else's. E.g Player A hardclaims Citizen, but Player B is a Lookout who saw them visiting, so they hardclaim and bring up their evidence.
Fake Claim: Claiming a role which is not their own's. E.g When a mafia member is demanded to hardclaim, they almost always fakeclaim instead.
Scum/Scummy: Scum is the name given to any role which doesn't win with town, and needs to be eliminated for town's win condition. Being scummy means adopting a behaviour which doesn't line up with the behaviour expected from a town member.
Confirmed: Being 100% confirmed as a certain [role]/[alignment].
No Lynch: Instead of voting for a player, you may also "/vote No Lynch". If majority reaches on a No Lynch, no player is killed. A No Lynch will also occur when the amount of time for the Day phase is over and majority hasn't been reached. No Lynching is, the majority of the time, benefitial to scum, so aiming towards it is generally scummy.
Reads/Reading: The read you have on a player is the conclusion about their alignment and/or role through their posts or other factors.
WIFOM: WIFOM is the circular reasoning that results from trying to determine the choices of an opponent who acted with full knowledge that their behavior would be subject to scrutiny.
Mislynch: An incorrect lynch on a town member.
Tunneling: Solely focusing on a player and their posts, ignoring others. Often considered scummy.
Last Will: A personal "diary", per see, in which the player may choose to write whatever they consider relevant. Automatically revealed upon death.

Slighter uncommon terms:

FoS - Finger of Suspicion. Putting the Finger of Suspicion onto a player means that one is calling that player scummy and saying that other players should keep an eye on that player. [Alt. Hand of Suspicion (HoS)]
LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A stage in the game where town must lynch scum or they lose. See also: MyLo.
MyLo - Mislynch and Lose. A stage in the game where if town mislynches (lynches town) and the Mafia make a kill town loses.
PoE - Process of Elimination.
OMGUS - "oh my god you suck". An acronym used to describe retaliatory actions such as votes. Ex: voting a player because they voted you citing the reason "because they are stupid".
PbPA - Post by Post Analysis. Analyzing a player's posts in succession, typically associated with ISO.
ISO - Isolation. Looking at a player's total posts in a game, in succession.

For a more complete list, feel free to look here.

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Playing as Town

While Mafia can talk strategy during the night (and in the case of this game, during the day), the town needs to use the day phase to discuss and figure out who is and isn't town as well. What can you do, then?
Try to progress discussion in a fashion which will be benefitial to the town, try to look for posts that feel scummy, ask and answer questions other players have made, try to see which intentions a player has behind their posts, be active and post reads regularly. Avoid plays which could benefit scum instead (e.g Hardclaiming for no reason, fakeclaiming), and try your best to think for yourself - it's a common mistake to follow blindly whatever other players have to say.

And be sure to read ObiWan's guide about playing as Citizen.

Playing as Mafia

As scum, you should play exactly like you would as town - be active, post reads, try to look productive, etc. The difference here are your goals: Hiding information, misleading the town and stalling out long enough until they no longer outnumber you. This means appearing as scum-hunting, but in actuality pushing for a mislynch by questioning, false reading and trying to depict a player as scum. However, keep in mind that if a teammate is acting undeniably scummy and their lynch looks like the right call, try not to oppose it too obviously - or it could be tracked back to you.
And remember: you are a team, and thus communication is essential. Try to talk over every situation so you can plan in advance.

Playing as Neutral

There is pretty much only two possible roles in play here, so to be short: Push for your goal actively, but be careful. As Exe, don't let yourself look as scum tunneling, but instead play as a town member would - take your time to focus on others and legit scumhunting. As Jester, be anti-town, but don't be too obvious, so the town won't have second thoughts about your lynch.

Golden Rules:
Don't claim Neutral.
Don't be inactive.
Remember what your goals are at all times.
Don't panic if you commit a mistake, but try to work your way around it.
Have fun. It's a game, after all.

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For anything else, feel free to ask me, the experienced players and/or take a look at the FM Main Hub.

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby Arcthurus » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:38 am

Eleven participants walked through the door. Speakers came to life on each corner of the wide room with a robotic voice.
"Welcome to the Salem Trials Simulation Room. Nothing that happens here is actually real - injuries, death, and worse - are merely part of the simulation. The same cannot be said about the real thing, however... But that's what you're here for: To avoid those things from happening (in most cases) to you. So let's get going!"

The room grew and shifted into a village near the woods, with 11 numbered houses surrounding the lynching platform.
The game had begun.



Day One begins!
Day One will end at 08:30 AM [UTC -3].
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby CJBlack44 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:41 am

Me first :D Hello!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby Kmenx » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:09 am

This is started so hi everyone lets have a good game
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby MamiT0m0e » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:18 am

Hello everyone lets have a good game full of lies and deceit... it will be fun toying with all of you mere humans...
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby TheCow » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:17 am

glhf

If anyone has any questions about the game, feel free to ask. We have 24 hours of discussion, so let's make the most of this. We just need everyone to show up.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby MamiT0m0e » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:19 am

Ya i have a question that i pmd our moderator (arcthurus) just a bit a go... I am confused on what is a day chat?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby TheCow » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:22 am

The Mafia are allowed to secretly communicate. In this setup, they may do so during the day. That means that the Mafia have their own chat which they can talk in.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby MamiT0m0e » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:28 am

Ok thanks TheCow.

Also i know that this is supposed to be a new players game but i just want to know how much experience everyone has with forum mafia... so if we get introductions could you include you experience with Forum mafia. I personally have no experience with forum mafia.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby TheCow » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:30 am

I've been playing and hosting for years. Still trash though
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby CJBlack44 » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:34 am

This Day Chat thing is weird :shock: that means Mafia can communicate as we speak?! Like, right now?

Aaaanyway, I'm pretty new, this is my first complete game, I only played one other game where I replaced day 4 (sorry again Cow :( :( :( ) and that didn't last very long so yeah, I basically only played for 2 game days.

I have a question about the investigation results, I see the ones for invest are in the OP, if TI is a sheriff, no Mafia member is immune to its interrogation, right? Considering there's no GF...?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby TheCow » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:37 am

CJBlack44 wrote:This Day Chat thing is weird :shock: that means Mafia can communicate as we speak?! Like, right now?

Aaaanyway, I'm pretty new, this is my first complete game, I only played one other game where I replaced day 4 (sorry again Cow :( :( :( ) and that didn't last very long so yeah, I basically only played for 2 game days.

I have a question about the investigation results, I see the ones for invest are in the OP, if TI is a sheriff, no Mafia member is immune to its interrogation, right? Considering there's no GF...?

Correct, no one is sheriff immune, so you will get either "Mafia" or "Not Suspicious" as your results. There's a chance of a framer though, so they could mess things up a bit.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby MamiT0m0e » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:43 am

And it is not like Investigator doesn't have its own faults in this one... Basically every result has a mafia possibility in it. Except citizen... but even then that can be framed!
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Setup Phase

Postby Kmenx » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:50 am

MamiT0m0e wrote:Ok thanks TheCow.

Also i know that this is supposed to be a new players game but i just want to know how much experience everyone has with forum mafia... so if we get introductions could you include you experience with Forum mafia. I personally have no experience with forum mafia.


I managed to get lynched at d1 at TFM 12 as survivor

I replaced in in SFM 10 in day 2 and Died n2

And i played at SFM 9 Just read that game it was hilarious :D
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby MamiT0m0e » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:52 am

could you post links to those, pls.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby Rossendale » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:53 am

I'm here! I hope we'll all have a good game.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM 1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby Kmenx » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:54 am

SFM 10 is still going on you can t miss it

Here is the link of SFM 9 viewtopic.php?f=17&t=29704
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby MamiT0m0e » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:59 am

Also i have dibs on house #5, That house is mine... *engraves Name on front door of house*... ahh much better.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby TheCow » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:08 am

Moving discussion further, what do you guys think of the role list? For example, what kind of scum should we focus on, of the Mafia?
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby MamiT0m0e » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:15 am

From what i can tell we should focus on figuring out what roles the mafia are... And try to focus down the consiglier or framer if they have one... I believe that those two would be the most trouble if they had them.
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby Kmenx » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:18 am

TheCow wrote:Moving discussion further, what do you guys think of the role list? For example, what kind of scum should we focus on, of the Mafia?


Consig or consort if they exsist

Always assume worst

First one is consig
Second is janitor
And third is consort

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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby Kmenx » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:19 am

Kmenx wrote:
TheCow wrote:Moving discussion further, what do you guys think of the role list? For example, what kind of scum should we focus on, of the Mafia?


Consig or consort if they exsist

Always assume worst

First one is consig
Second is janitor
And third is consort

This is the worst we can get as Mafia list

Fixed
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM1 Day One (Simulation)

Postby TheCow » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:21 am

Alright, why do you guys think that those would be the worst Mafia members?
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