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by **Swordsworth** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:36 pm

Being overly concerned about either Neutrals or Mafia at this stage is a little bit of a red flag. Right now, neither are of bigger priority.

by **K1llthestory** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:37 pm

I'm just curious since we know the neutrals roles, which is a significant advantage D1, as well as everything about them. So discussion about the mafia shouldn't be a problem.

However, apparently Mela doesn't like that discussion, and I'm curious as to why

by **Alzar** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:37 pm

K1llthestory wrote:
Swordsworth wrote:Ah, K1ll? The thing is, just looking over this player list, no mafia would be stupid enough to name their mafia setup when making projections. Anything dangerous is usually an automatic "steeraway or bs away" from mafia, and since steeraway isn't an option, it'll be BS.

As for my opinion, RNGsus sayeth that Blackmailer and Disguiser exist. Another possibility of many.

Ok, hear me out.

We lymch mafia day d2, at the beginning of D2, there was a clean, so we know there's a janitor. We look at his list, and it says Consig and framer.

We cross both those roles out because his meta was to lie, and we gain more information as well as looking at others who put the same answer.

Okay, back to this point. What's stopping them from RNGing it like everyone else is so far?

by **Gobble124** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:37 pm

alouvre wrote:
Gobble124 wrote:I keep finding myself wanting to defend against every one of k1ll's questions even though they aren't directed at me.
It's hard to restrain myself.

Why's this?

You're a funny guy.
I like you.

by **ShortcutButton** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:37 pm

This has made me think about how much more safe you feel when the alignment is just "Neutral Killing" and not specific roles. I don't know why that is. Another lesson for psychology.

by **K1llthestory** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:38 pm

Alzar wrote:
K1llthestory wrote:
Swordsworth wrote:Ah, K1ll? The thing is, just looking over this player list, no mafia would be stupid enough to name their mafia setup when making projections. Anything dangerous is usually an automatic "steeraway or bs away" from mafia, and since steeraway isn't an option, it'll be BS.

As for my opinion, RNGsus sayeth that Blackmailer and Disguiser exist. Another possibility of many.

Ok, hear me out.

We lymch mafia day d2, at the beginning of D2, there was a clean, so we know there's a janitor. We look at his list, and it says Consig and framer.

We cross both those roles out because his meta was to lie, and we gain more information as well as looking at others who put the same answer.

Okay, back to this point. What's stopping them from RNGing it like everyone else is so far?

Good point. However, that's just a meta thing they could be using.

It shouldn't be concrete evidence, but it should at least be taken into consideration for investigation results and the such.

by **alouvre** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:42 pm

It's not exactly a red flag, but I'm uncertain as to why Gobble decided to publicly ask his questions instead of messaging Metrion, and I'm not sure why K1ll just listed off what she finds scummy, either. It's been mentioned before in regards to reaction tests, but telling scum what they need to avoid isn't going to do you any favors.

I also didn't know why Leyva decided to ask if K1ll was performing a reaction test. So what if she is?

Gobble124 wrote:You're a funny guy.
I like you.

Glad you think so. Spell it out for me.

by **K1llthestory** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:43 pm

I've learned from experience that not giving reasons to trivial things lead to death.

Plus, it doesn't tell scum what to do since Ill be looking for all forms of behavior.

by **leyva45** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:44 pm

alouvre wrote:I also didn't know why Leyva decided to ask if K1ll was performing a reaction test. So what if she is?

K1ll's reaction tests last game got her lynched, and really, I'm not a fan.

by **K1llthestory** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:45 pm

leyva45 wrote:
alouvre wrote:I also didn't know why Leyva decided to ask if K1ll was performing a reaction test. So what if she is?

K1ll's reaction tests last game got her lynched, and really, I'm not a fan.

Those were stupid.

Those were crazy.

Also Leyva, I'm truly not a fan of your playstyle either. Its quite too scummy for my liking, and far too under thought.

by **ronit** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:47 pm

I'm a vigilante, I'm serious.
Can we do a RVS?

by **Alzar** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:47 pm

Everything in FM is a reaction test, really. It would be nice for K1ll to tone hers down, though.

by **Alzar** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:47 pm

ronit wrote:I'm a vigilante, I'm serious.
Can we do a RVS?

No lynching Day 1, lol. Can't RVS with no voting stage at all.

by **iEsdeath** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:47 pm

ronit wrote:I'm a vigilante, I'm serious.
Can we do a RVS?

>.>

by **K1llthestory** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:47 pm

ronit wrote:I'm a vigilante, I'm serious.
Can we do a RVS?

Out of curiosity, what reasons do you have for revealing such a powerful piece of information? It seems slightly silly to be honest.

by **leyva45** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:48 pm

K1llthestory wrote:
leyva45 wrote:
alouvre wrote:I also didn't know why Leyva decided to ask if K1ll was performing a reaction test. So what if she is?

K1ll's reaction tests last game got her lynched, and really, I'm not a fan.

Those were stupid.

Those were crazy.

Also Leyva, I'm truly not a fan of your playstyle either. Its quite too scummy for my liking, and far too under thought.

Hahaha, it's how I always play, and I could say the same thing about you in other games. I've tried to not act scummy, but It always happens.

by **Swordsworth** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:48 pm

ronit wrote:I'm a vigilante, I'm serious.
Can we do a RVS?

Uh, what?

(Also what's an RVS?)

by **alouvre** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:48 pm

ronit wrote:I'm a vigilante, I'm serious.
Can we do a RVS?

All serial killers claim vigilante.

/vote ronit

Swordsworth wrote:(Also what's an RVS?)

Random voting stage.

by **Alzar** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:49 pm

Swordsworth wrote:
ronit wrote:I'm a vigilante, I'm serious.
Can we do a RVS?

Uh, what?

(Also what's an RVS?)

Random Voting Stage. It's a thing near the beginning of games I've seen on MafiaScum, where people randomly vote to get discussion going and to gather reactions. I'm not sure how well it'd do in the ToS FM meta, though.

by **Arcthurus** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:50 pm

I say murder K1ll as soon as possible, trust me it'll work in the long run for all parties involved.

(Inb4 she's bomber and I'm actually right)

by **ronit** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:50 pm

Alzar wrote:
ronit wrote:I'm a vigilante, I'm serious.
Can we do a RVS?

No lynching Day 1, lol. Can't RVS with no voting stage at all.

Point of a rvs is to see who votes who,the votes don't actually mean anything that's why it's random.
kill, why not?
It can work

by **Gobble124** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:50 pm

List of every Post made by every user. This will auto-update during the entire game. Want to see someone's posts? LOOK NO FURTHER!
Spoiler:

by **Arckas** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:50 pm

Gobble is bothering me.

As per if neutrals or mafia are the threat, lets us just agree that they're all a threat given the scenario. At this point in time, the biggest threats are the mafia and the for obvious reason. Arsonist and bomber at this time aren't a threat but if kept alive, they will be. Three neutrals killing is intimidating, but right now is where we have the advantage.

If we can lynch/kill the serial killer and/or mafia in the early game, that'd be best then as apposed to a bomber or arsonist. Thats my thoughts.

To open up another subject-

If your a citizen, avoid hard-claiming unless absolutely necessary. Avoid trying to do anything that would put you under being a suspect, as if your found under suspicion and claiming citizen that doesn't help the scenario at all. If your thinking of something bold to do, please stop.

Because of you K1ll.

by **K1llthestory** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:50 pm

leyva45 wrote:
K1llthestory wrote:[quote="Leyva45"{
K1ll's reaction tests last game got her lynched, and really, I'm not a fan.

Those were stupid.

Those were crazy.

Also Leyva, I'm truly not a fan of your playstyle either. Its quite too scummy for my liking, and far too under thought.

Hahaha, it's how I always play, and I could say the same thing about you in other games. I've tried to not act scummy, but It always happens.[/quote]
I always plan my stuff before a game.

Naturally acting scummy is another thing.

Anyways, I'd rather focus on the discussion and not create a meaningless argument that devolves into a verbal fist fight.

by **Alzar** » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:51 pm

ronit wrote:
Alzar wrote:
ronit wrote:I'm a vigilante, I'm serious.
Can we do a RVS?

No lynching Day 1, lol. Can't RVS with no voting stage at all.

Point of a rvs is to see who votes who,the votes don't actually mean anything that's why it's random.
kill, why not?
It can work

Yeah, no. Votes are pretty meaningless with no actual weight to them.

And RVS works because everyone cooperates and has some idea of what's happening. Over here, people would get upset over early votes.

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