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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby SirCakez » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:29 pm

Witch goes with Surv in the Investigator results, which is why I wouldn't be surprised if Duck or gir is Witch. I'm pretty sure the other one is Jester or Amne, can't really decide on which, except gir feels slightly scummier to me.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby girisawesomer » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:31 pm

SirCakez wrote:Witch goes with Surv in the Investigator results, which is why I wouldn't be surprised if Duck or gir is Witch. I'm pretty sure the other one is Jester or Amne, can't really decide on which, except gir feels slightly scummier to me.

Are you feigning ignorance or did you forget to reap the OP?
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby SirCakez » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:33 pm

girisawesomer wrote:
SirCakez wrote:Witch goes with Surv in the Investigator results, which is why I wouldn't be surprised if Duck or gir is Witch. I'm pretty sure the other one is Jester or Amne, can't really decide on which, except gir feels slightly scummier to me.

Are you feigning ignorance or did you forget to reap the OP?

What exactly are you referring to? I just looked at the Invest results and there is room for Surv, Witch and Amne/Jester on the rolelist so I'm not sure what you mean.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby Invenio » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:33 pm

.........counter-claiming surv on such a confirmable role is such a bad tactic. Unless you're the witch, sir. If there IS a witch, it's you.
Anyway, we're not going to get much info out of those three on day one. We might as well completely ignore it until the night begins. Any other topics we should talk about?

girisawesomer wrote:Are you feigning ignorance or did you forget to reap the OP?

Your target distances themselves from others! They must be an Lookout, Survivor, or Witch.


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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby girisawesomer » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:34 pm

Invenio wrote:.........counter-claiming surv on such a confirmable role is such a bad tactic. Unless you're the witch, sir. If there IS a witch, it's you.
Anyway, we're not going to get much info out of those three on day one. We might as well completely ignore it until the night begins. Any other topics we should talk about?

girisawesomer wrote:Are you feigning ignorance or did you forget to reap the OP?

Your target distances themselves from others! They must be an Lookout, Survivor, or Witch.


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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby Akame » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:35 pm

girisawesomer wrote:
SirCakez wrote:Witch goes with Surv in the Investigator results, which is why I wouldn't be surprised if Duck or gir is Witch. I'm pretty sure the other one is Jester or Amne, can't really decide on which, except gir feels slightly scummier to me.

Are you feigning ignorance or did you forget to reap the OP?

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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby SirCakez » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:37 pm

Well since there is no Stalker there is an about 54% chance of any specific NK appearing. We should expect a douse tomorrow morning, if there's no douse then we can essentially confirm there is a Bomber, unless there are two SK kills. If there's no SK kill or douse, it's possible, although unlikely, that we could have two Bombers. *shudders*
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby EdmundMcGaben » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:40 pm

Like i said once, im repeating it again. Its either duck or sir. Why not giris? Claiming on such a position, consisting of 2 survivor claims, claiming third survivor wouldnt help his case (making killers avoid) in fact, it would made the town aligned killers attack them, causing in much more chaotic position than the position if they didnt claimed.

That leaves SirCakez and Duck. One of them is either an immune scum or witch in that matter. Considering sircakez just wanted to get shot, this raises his chances of being bomber since it can fuse itself, and he wouldve got away with it (or not)

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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby SirCakez » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:43 pm

EdmundMcGaben wrote:Like i said once, im repeating it again. Its either duck or sir. Why not giris? Claiming on such a position, consisting of 2 survivor claims, claiming third survivor wouldnt help his case (making killers avoid) in fact, it would made the town aligned killers attack them, causing in much more chaotic position than the position if they didnt claimed.

That leaves SirCakez and Duck. One of them is either an immune scum or witch in that matter. Considering sircakez just wanted to get shot, this raises his chances of being bomber since it can fuse itself, and he wouldve got away with it (or not)

Thoughts?

Your reasoning for why it's not gir actually makes a lot of sense to me, unless of course gir is Jester and saw an opportunity to try to get scumreads early on.

Regarding your Bomber theory, I was thinking of a way used in TOS to confirm Survs, and obviously Bomber isn't in TOS. I also had no idea Bombers could fuse themselves, so I didn't think it would be so suspicious of an idea to suggest.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby Loominaty » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:44 pm

"Confirmed scum"?
Really?

What are you gonna do if someone of them reveals as mayor tomorrow?
Pretty suspicious behaviour :^)
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby JustAnotherDragon » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:44 pm

there are a lot of possibilities, maybe giris just claimed to cause a bunch of chaos and end up getting himself targeted? Since he was the last one to claim it feels the weirdest since he knew that one of the other's were lying or himself was lying in order to get killed, we can't also cross off the list that one of the survivor claims could be a phantom trying to get himself killed.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby Akame » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:45 pm

Loominaty wrote:"Confirmed scum"?
Really?

What are you gonna do if someone of them reveals as mayor tomorrow?
Pretty suspicious behaviour :^)

Since mayor claims survivor?
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby JustAnotherDragon » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:46 pm

Loominaty wrote:"Confirmed scum"?
Really?

What are you gonna do if someone of them reveals as mayor tomorrow?
Pretty suspicious behaviour :^)


Just so he doesn't get killed tonight? Sounds like a terrible idea if we have a transporter and he ends up using one of the survivor claimers as meatshield and actually gets the mayor killed?

Incidentally one of the NK's might attack one of the survivors tonight just because you said that, sounds fishy to me.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby Invenio » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:46 pm

Loominaty wrote:"Confirmed scum"?
Really?

What are you gonna do if someone of them reveals as mayor tomorrow?
Pretty suspicious behaviour :^)


If one of them is a mayor, I'll cry tears of joy. I still think this is unlikely though.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby Akame » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:48 pm

Going to bed now. Have a nice day.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby EdmundMcGaben » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:52 pm

SirCakez wrote:
EdmundMcGaben wrote:Like i said once, im repeating it again. Its either duck or sir. Why not giris? Claiming on such a position, consisting of 2 survivor claims, claiming third survivor wouldnt help his case (making killers avoid) in fact, it would made the town aligned killers attack them, causing in much more chaotic position than the position if they didnt claimed.

That leaves SirCakez and Duck. One of them is either an immune scum or witch in that matter. Considering sircakez just wanted to get shot, this raises his chances of being bomber since it can fuse itself, and he wouldve got away with it (or not)

Thoughts?

Your reasoning for why it's not gir actually makes a lot of sense to me, unless of course gir is Jester and saw an opportunity to try to get scumreads early on.

Regarding your Bomber theory, I was thinking of a way used in TOS to confirm Survs, and obviously Bomber isn't in TOS. I also had no idea Bombers could fuse themselves, so I didn't think it would be so suspicious of an idea to suggest.

Simple: Scum wouldnt claim survivor in a dangerous position, because claiming a third survivor would make them more suspicious than if they didnt claimed survivor, but survivors would have to stick to their claims, thats why he strikes as a survivor to me.

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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby SirCakez » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:53 pm

EdmundMcGaben wrote:
SirCakez wrote:
EdmundMcGaben wrote:Like i said once, im repeating it again. Its either duck or sir. Why not giris? Claiming on such a position, consisting of 2 survivor claims, claiming third survivor wouldnt help his case (making killers avoid) in fact, it would made the town aligned killers attack them, causing in much more chaotic position than the position if they didnt claimed.

That leaves SirCakez and Duck. One of them is either an immune scum or witch in that matter. Considering sircakez just wanted to get shot, this raises his chances of being bomber since it can fuse itself, and he wouldve got away with it (or not)

Thoughts?

Your reasoning for why it's not gir actually makes a lot of sense to me, unless of course gir is Jester and saw an opportunity to try to get scumreads early on.

Regarding your Bomber theory, I was thinking of a way used in TOS to confirm Survs, and obviously Bomber isn't in TOS. I also had no idea Bombers could fuse themselves, so I didn't think it would be so suspicious of an idea to suggest.

Simple: Scum wouldnt claim survivor in a dangerous position, because claiming a third survivor would make them more suspicious than if they didnt claimed survivor, but survivors would have to stick to their claims, thats why he strikes as a survivor to me.

And a Jester would want to look suspicious, would they not? The only risk of claiming the third Surv as Jester that I could see is getting shot by a Vig.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby girisawesomer » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:54 pm

Survivors don't get lynched for that exact reason. They get shot or executed.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby SirCakez » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:56 pm

girisawesomer wrote:Survivors don't get lynched for that exact reason. They get shot or executed.

CFM 2 happened. A Jester could be going for that play, especially if there's a Bomber and Town gets desperate.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby EdmundMcGaben » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:57 pm

SirCakez wrote:
EdmundMcGaben wrote:
SirCakez wrote:Your reasoning for why it's not gir actually makes a lot of sense to me, unless of course gir is Jester and saw an opportunity to try to get scumreads early on.

Regarding your Bomber theory, I was thinking of a way used in TOS to confirm Survs, and obviously Bomber isn't in TOS. I also had no idea Bombers could fuse themselves, so I didn't think it would be so suspicious of an idea to suggest.

Simple: Scum wouldnt claim survivor in a dangerous position, because claiming a third survivor would make them more suspicious than if they didnt claimed survivor, but survivors would have to stick to their claims, thats why he strikes as a survivor to me.

And a Jester would want to look suspicious, would they not? The only risk of claiming the third Surv as Jester that I could see is getting shot by a Vig.

Claiming survivor as a jester would be a dumb move, because you will most likely get shot by a vigilante. Survivors doesnt worths the lynch, and they will most likely get directly shot, so it seems like a shitty strat and i doubt anyone would even use it.
There could be a chance, but its a very low chance.

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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby gorilla578 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:59 pm

THE FMMOD IS FAT AND UGLY LOL!!

Surv claims should be shot in the heads.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby SirCakez » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:00 pm

A Vig shooting any of the Surv claims is a terrible idea until we can establish if there is a Bomber or not.
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby gorilla578 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:05 pm

SirCakez wrote:A Vig shooting any of the Surv claims is a terrible idea until we can establish if there is a Bomber or not.

We'll know that by the next day
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:06 pm

gorilla578 wrote:THE FMMOD IS FAT AND UGLY LOL!!

Surv claims should be shot in the heads.

1. Bombers
2. Let's save our bullets for scum, specifically mafia

Also, everybody says that one could be amnesiac while forgetting that phantom is possible.

And Cakez you're the one who opted to be shot. :|
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Re: FM 7E: Day 1 (Threats)

Postby SirCakez » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:08 pm

ICECLIMBERS wrote:
gorilla578 wrote:THE FMMOD IS FAT AND UGLY LOL!!

Surv claims should be shot in the heads.

1. Bombers
2. Let's save our bullets for scum, specifically mafia

Also, everybody says that one could be amnesiac while forgetting that phantom is possible.

And Cakez you're the one who opted to be shot. :|


I explained earlier why I suggested that.
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EdmundMcGaben wrote:Like i said once, im repeating it again. Its either duck or sir. Why not giris? Claiming on such a position, consisting of 2 survivor claims, claiming third survivor wouldnt help his case (making killers avoid) in fact, it would made the town aligned killers attack them, causing in much more chaotic position than the position if they didnt claimed.

That leaves SirCakez and Duck. One of them is either an immune scum or witch in that matter. Considering sircakez just wanted to get shot, this raises his chances of being bomber since it can fuse itself, and he wouldve got away with it (or not)

Thoughts?

Your reasoning for why it's not gir actually makes a lot of sense to me, unless of course gir is Jester and saw an opportunity to try to get scumreads early on.

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