FM 7E: Game Over - Town + Survivor Win

[EdmundMcGaben]

I also think its a bit dumb how people trust the first Survivor claimer only cause he said it first... wow... just cause I didnt get to log in as fast as him means my role claim is less legit?

Nah, they dont trust him more than you because of that. They trust him more than you because apparently you did it before (claiming surv as another role)

[JustAnotherDragon]

I also think its a bit dumb how people trust the first Survivor claimer only cause he said it first... wow... just cause I didnt get to log in as fast as him means my role claim is less legit?

It's not that your claim is less believable than the other's it's just because we have 3 survivor claimers with a max of 2, it makes impossible to actually believe any survivor claim now.

[EdmundMcGaben]

Well, then. I've got something interesting for you.

I am the Survivor.

I'd believe Duck was lying over Cakez, since Duck has done this before.

what

excuse me but what

jfc why do you guys have to claim d1 i still dont get the need but w/e

because I don't want to die via scum? I don't trust myself to vest on the right nights

If you cant vest on correct time, that shows your incapability to play a certain role. I still dont get why y'all have to claim d1, claiming around end game seems better to me.

[ICECLIMBERS]

Well, then. I've got something interesting for you.

I am the Survivor.

I'd believe Duck was lying over Cakez, since Duck has done this before.

what

excuse me but what

jfc why do you guys have to claim d1 i still dont get the need but w/e

Because we don't want them to claim later on and panic vote them when a bomb is about to go off like people did in CFM2. Or so that we don't have to deal with lynching a survivor mistaking them for scum. If scum want to claim survivor, we force them to lock into their claims on the first day.

[TrueGent]

Whilst I don't particularly agree with some of Ducks statements so far, his actions are the most indicative of Survivor and is definitively the most believable Survivor claim here.
ICE I put the idea of Duck being a jester out there then stated that one statement of his didnt help his case as Survivor, at no point did I write him off as a Jester.
Also after Gir's hardclaim I dont see how at least one Survivor claim is scum, with the most likely scum being Jester imo.

[Invenio]

Well this is awkward. One of you is definitely a liar and not even neutral benign.

kill em all.

[EdmundMcGaben]

Well, then. I've got something interesting for you.

I am the Survivor.

I'd believe Duck was lying over Cakez, since Duck has done this before.

what

excuse me but what

jfc why do you guys have to claim d1 i still dont get the need but w/e

Because we don't want them to claim later on and panic vote them when a bomb is about to go off like people did in CFM2. Or so that we don't have to deal with lynching a survivor mistaking them for scum. If scum want to claim survivor, we force them to lock into their claims on the first day.

Oh yeah bomber.

Still, that doesnt sounds like a convincing case to me. Lynch the bomber fast, claim afterwards. You can do it by not acting scummy and avoiding the cutting stand.

[girisawesomer]

Yeah, but we're bad edmund

[JustAnotherDragon]

A lot of things could happen if you don't claim D1, arso douse/you can be roleblocked and killed and other scenarios, but it's an occupational hazard since if we have a jailor i doubt he will think twice about executing since there's so many survivor claims and we need to know the truth.

[EdmundMcGaben]

Yeah, but we're bad edmund

lol

Go ahead i guess.

Anyways, one of the survivor claimers has to be a scum. I dont think giris is scum, because by claiming a third survivor would do nothing but sign his death warrant, because now he would have the spotlight.

So im leaning towards sircakez or duck to turn scum.

[Invenio]

Well if there is a jailor they shouldn't waste a first night jailing one of the survivors. Wait until you can execute one of them. Jail somebody else night one for more information.

[ICECLIMBERS]

Whilst I don't particularly agree with some of Ducks statements so far, his actions are the most indicative of Survivor and is definitively the most believable Survivor claim here.
ICE I put the idea of Duck being a jester out there then stated that one statement of his didnt help his case as Survivor, at no point did I write him off as a Jester.
Also after Gir's hardclaim I dont see how at least one Survivor claim is scum, with the most likely scum being Jester imo.

Alright then. Thanks for clearing that up.

Oh yeah bomber.

I don't like how you forgot that there could be a bomber.

[Invenio]

If one of you is actually town, speak up. You were caught in a lie and you need to stop your bluff immediately. If not, you are hereby considered neutral or mafia.

The good news is, I doubt we have a witch now.

[girisawesomer]

If one of you is actually town, speak up. You were caught in a lie and you need to stop your bluff immediately. If not, you are hereby considered neutral or mafia.

The good news is, I doubt we have a witch now.

Why?
Witch claiming Survivor isn't unheard of.
If they aren't CC they are pretty set to get to endgame.

[SirCakez]

Well this is awkward. One of you is definitely a liar and not even neutral benign.

kill em all.

Plz no

If one of you is actually town, speak up. You were caught in a lie and you need to stop your bluff immediately. If not, you are hereby considered neutral or mafia.

The good news is, I doubt we have a witch now.

One of the other two could easily be Witch though, albeit it's a pretty bad tactic IMO.

[EdmundMcGaben]

Now that invenio mentions:

Does anyone wants to retract their claim? If you dont, you are confirmed scum by any means, and you will most likely get shot by a vigilante, so if you dont want this to happen, retract if you are a town-survivor claimer.

[ICECLIMBERS]

Now that invenio mentions:

Does anyone wants to retract their claim? If you dont, you are confirmed scum by any means, and you will most likely get shot by a vigilante, so if you dont want this to happen, retract if you are a town-survivor claimer.

I have an idea. How about we not give a vigilante explicit instructions until we know what the neutral killers are.

[SirCakez]

Now that invenio mentions:

Does anyone wants to retract their claim? If you dont, you are confirmed scum by any means, and you will most likely get shot by a vigilante, so if you dont want this to happen, retract if you are a town-survivor claimer.

Town-Survivor claims wouldn't even be a thing if it wasn't for Gossie and Swedish, and those were both incredibly silly plays.

I wouldn't mind being shot by a Vig to prove I'm not Jester. Just let me know if you are going to do it so I can use a vest and prove myself. I would rather not die to a Vig shot considering I would like to help the town at all means possible and also obviously because if I die I lose.

[ICECLIMBERS]

Now that invenio mentions:

Does anyone wants to retract their claim? If you dont, you are confirmed scum by any means, and you will most likely get shot by a vigilante, so if you dont want this to happen, retract if you are a town-survivor claimer.

Town-Survivor claims wouldn't even be a thing if it wasn't for Gossie and Swedish, and those were both incredibly silly plays.

I wouldn't mind being shot by a Vig to prove I'm not Jester. Just let me know if you are going to do it so I can use a vest and prove myself. I would rather not die to a Vig shot considering I would like to help the town at all means possible and also obviously because if I die I lose.

You're not helping your case here Cakez. Do you want a fuse to be lit or not?

[girisawesomer]

Now that invenio mentions:

Does anyone wants to retract their claim? If you dont, you are confirmed scum by any means, and you will most likely get shot by a vigilante, so if you dont want this to happen, retract if you are a town-survivor claimer.

Town-Survivor claims wouldn't even be a thing if it wasn't for Gossie and Swedish, and those were both incredibly silly plays.

I wouldn't mind being shot by a Vig to prove I'm not Jester. Just let me know if you are going to do it so I can use a vest and prove myself. I would rather not die to a Vig shot considering I would like to help the town at all means possible and also obviously because if I die I lose.

Didn't Sarah start the town claiming Survivor?

[Akame]

Now that invenio mentions:

Does anyone wants to retract their claim? If you dont, you are confirmed scum by any means, and you will most likely get shot by a vigilante, so if you dont want this to happen, retract if you are a town-survivor claimer.

Town-Survivor claims wouldn't even be a thing if it wasn't for Gossie and Swedish, and those were both incredibly silly plays.

I wouldn't mind being shot by a Vig to prove I'm not Jester. Just let me know if you are going to do it so I can use a vest and prove myself. I would rather not die to a Vig shot considering I would like to help the town at all means possible and also obviously because if I die I lose.

You're not helping your case here Cakez. Do you want a fuse to be lit or not?

He does. Fusing himself and let the fuse lit by vig.

[Invenio]

Hmm.

Sircakez stays with their claim. Giri obviously sticks with it. Ducky? We're waiting.

[SirCakez]

Town-Survivor claims wouldn't even be a thing if it wasn't for Gossie and Swedish, and those were both incredibly silly plays.

I wouldn't mind being shot by a Vig to prove I'm not Jester. Just let me know if you are going to do it so I can use a vest and prove myself. I would rather not die to a Vig shot considering I would like to help the town at all means possible and also obviously because if I die I lose.

You're not helping your case here Cakez. Do you want a fuse to be lit or not?

Town-Survivor claims wouldn't even be a thing if it wasn't for Gossie and Swedish, and those were both incredibly silly plays.

I wouldn't mind being shot by a Vig to prove I'm not Jester. Just let me know if you are going to do it so I can use a vest and prove myself. I would rather not die to a Vig shot considering I would like to help the town at all means possible and also obviously because if I die I lose.

You're not helping your case here Cakez. Do you want a fuse to be lit or not?

He does. Fusing himself and let the fuse lit by vig.

Bomber can fuse themself?

[Duck]

Hmm.

Sircakez stays with their claim. Giri obviously sticks with it. Ducky? We're waiting.

waiting? the question was if anyone wants retract their claim... which I obviously dont as i would of said something...

[Invenio]

They can visit themselves, yes. It's a horrendous tactic though.

SO. Nobody retracts their claim. Scum confirmed in one of three roles. One might be a jester... or even two might be jesters. Tricky tricky business. ....but a witch hiding in there would be absolutely insane so there's most likely no witch.