CFM8|SA II|Pirates & Jester win|Bus Ride on the High Seas

[K1llthestory]

WIFOM SAID HE WAS GOING TO MURDER ME.

[Neasans]

JustAnotherDragon claimed non-Town, yes. Still, I prefer scum lynches above Neutral lynches, so I'd only choose to lynch them if proven scum.

For some reason, I find K1ll believable. At the moment, at least.

This game reminds me so much of that last CFM I played. :/

I was just threatened...

Threatened? How so?

[VucubCaquix]

I suppose there's not really much we can do about the k1ll situation right now.

And Wifom I don't think a survivor would keep quiet about it. They always claim in FM, it keeps attackers away.

We should be discussing the new roles, and the buffs to old roles as well. I'm gonna write out some thoughts.

[Knockoff]

I'm inclined to believe the Survivor claim, mainly because I doubt JAD decides to claim Survivor as scum again when that didn't exactly work out for him in CFM 7 at all.

Gambler's fallacy. Why would a survivor claim in a game like this in the first place? A kingmaker must decide from three primary factions and is, in fact, a likely target of slaughter. So for what reason would they claim?

A Survivor would claim because we don't usually lynch them unless we have a good reason to. And Gambler's fallacy wouldn't apply here because we're talking about an actual person, not statistics that stay the exact same way each time.

[K1llthestory]

He said if I wasn't valuable he'd have me killed

Racist.

[Neasans]

It's the end of the world as we know it

Hi, useful post.

This is Day 1, but with all the stuff going on, I'm surprised you apparently have nothing to say.

[FMLSheWas12]

I can't wait to try out the new Framer abilities tonight! ᕕ( ՞ ᗜ ՞ )ᕗ /sarcasm

Did you know that just because someone hard-claimed a role doesn't always mean it's true? <( ◉ ◯ ◉ )>

I mean K1ll could be telling the truth. Or they have an elaborate as hell scheme. Better not to discuss the possibilities nor dwell on it.

Better not.

If you do, you'll find a knife in your back tonight.

Of course I'll dig into what you might be planning! I just won't discuss it with the group, since I don't know if anyone will exploit the information I may or may not give.

You claimed Citizen, I'd love to see you try.

[ADorkOfPork]

Hey guys, don't kill me but...

/reveal as an onion ring

[K1llthestory]

I can't wait to try out the new Framer abilities tonight! ᕕ( ՞ ᗜ ՞ )ᕗ /sarcasm

Did you know that just because someone hard-claimed a role doesn't always mean it's true? <( ◉ ◯ ◉ )>

I mean K1ll could be telling the truth. Or they have an elaborate as hell scheme. Better not to discuss the possibilities nor dwell on it.

Better not.

If you do, you'll find a knife in your back tonight.

Of course I'll dig into what you might be planning! I just won't discuss it with the group, since I don't know if anyone will exploit the information I may or may not give.

You claimed Citizen, I'd love to see you try.

I got friends in high places

[Alzar]

Ho? I suppose k1llthestory is not a Vanilla after all. We have a confirmed townie NK so they would be best having him killed, if they are a vig or jailor.

what

[JustAnotherDragon]

The number of role spots which could role any "benign" roles is smaller than the number of confirmed evil roles. On a knifes edge, keeping you alive is disadvantageous. I suppose we have tomorrow's lynch set out for ourselves this early, luckily. Of course, we may catch out more obvious scum, but this works well enough for now.

k1llthestory, why exactly did you choose to claim?

That is to say, confirmed evil roles which are NK immune. My apologies.

Well you'll lose one lynch and i'll lose and be very sad.

The only NK that can't be found by sheriff is Arso, and there's a 50/50 on being a sheriff in the game.

I just want to survive, your odds is defying my sincerity.

Well what would i get by getting into the spotlight?

[Animate]

Hi everyone.

I'm hardclaiming survivor!

..not again.

That is to say, confirmed evil roles which are NK immune. My apologies.

Ho? I suppose k1llthestory is not a Vanilla after all. We have a confirmed townie NK so they would be best having him killed, if they are a vig or jailor.

Are you NK to refer to "night kill"? It generally refers to "Neutral Killing" in FM so that can get a bit confusing .

[K1llthestory]

Great, people want to murder me already. Great start.

[Animate]

Are you using NK to refer to "night kill"? It generally refers to "Neutral Killing" in FM so that can get a bit confusing .

^Fixed.

[Alzar]

If we can't find any actual scum to lynch tomorrow, we should lynch JustAnotherDragon. Or have a Jailor execute. Either one will work.

Animate: Judging from their name and the terminology, I'm assuming WIFOMKing is someone from MafiaScum. Or just someone's alt. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Knockoff]

gg, I am a Vampire. I could see the logic behind this if you actually are Town, but with a single post I can't reach a conclusion about your alignment.

For some reason, I find K1ll believable. At the moment, at least.

Neasans, in the first quote, you mention not being able to draw any conclusions from what K1ll did. In the second, its changed to finding them believable. Why is that?

[K1llthestory]

Ah, the plan is working.

So many things to work with already.

WIFOM, how exactly are you so sure I'm scum?

[Knockoff]

Gambler's fallacy. Why would a survivor claim in a game like this in the first place? A kingmaker must decide from three primary factions and is, in fact, a likely target of slaughter. So for what reason would they claim?

A Survivor would claim because we don't usually lynch them unless we have a good reason to. And Gambler's fallacy wouldn't apply here because we're talking about an actual person, not statistics that stay the exact same way each time.

Town loses majority on the third night. A mislynch is worse than a neutral lynch, is it not?
A vig shot, on the other hand, has nothing to lose.

Survivors have three bullet-proof vests.

[Alzar]

@WIFOM: When did K1ll lie? If they didn't actively say so, what led you to this conclusion? On page 1, you believed them. What changed?

[VucubCaquix]

I don't think you've thought about this very much Wifom. A vig shoot on an unconfirmed scum is always risky, and K1ll is nowhere near confirmed scum.
Yes, claiming citizen is a stupid idea, but you can't shoot people and then blame them for it. I think we should get off this topic for now. I'd like to see what K1ll has in mind.

[K1llthestory]

I never said please lynch me? Did you read something wrong?

[K1llthestory]

Survivors have three bullet-proof vests.

Ah, I apologies. My reference was lost on you. In any case, I am saying that the lynch of a third party is far better than a half-baked lynch on a scum suspect, nothing more.

@WIFOM: When did K1ll lie? If they didn't actively say so, what led you to this conclusion? On page 1, you believed them. What changed?

Based on the interactions alone, I have decided so much.

Because you threatened my life via whisper?

[pretzellover33]

Hello

will post thoughts soon

[FMLSheWas12]

Hey guys, don't kill me but...

/reveal as an onion ring

/eat ADorkOfPork delicious.

I'm not too sure why anybody has any justification to take hard-claims to heart. I don't and neither should any of you.

@WIFOM: When did K1ll lie? If they didn't actively say so, what led you to this conclusion? On page 1, you believed them. What changed?

I think he's referring to her posts where she claimed Citizen then blackmailed me from spilling information otherwise I'd die at night. Obviously a Citizen can't kill at night. Everyone knows that including K1ll. It's simply ludicrous to come to a quick conclusion like this. K1ll isn't confirmed town/scum for shit, nobody is.

[K1llthestory]

Hello

will post thoughts soon

How about right now?

How do you feel about my claim?