CFM 7 | Forumangan Ronpa [Game Over] Fragments of Hope win!

[EdmundMcGaben]

I do think there is a framer. 4 random hopes and all unique. No janitor chance. No blackmailer.

I am lagging right now, if i can, i will explain my read on greatplayer01.

[Resare]

How do you lag in Forum Mafia..?

Shit internet in general..? Not really sure lol

[EdmundMcGaben]

Fuck dat. I prefer to use quick reply, but i lag so hard right now it doesnt loads.

Yes, i lag because of the shit internet.

Now to my suspicions:

You came with a warm welcome to presumably clean yourself, seem like a nice town member. Possible = Jailor, Godfather, Neutral Killing.

You said you will try to scum/townread people, but you never stated that you are going to use it to towns advantage. It could be for yours advantage truly... Possible = Neutral Killing, Godfather (Also try to get the attention off of yourself)

You try to go with the majority as you have no leads so far (Mass roleclaim) Possible = Neutral Benign, Any Neutral. (Still possible mafia.)

You said you will keep an eye on people, presumable accusing them later and get the attention off of yourself. Possible = Any Neutral, Mafia


I gotta go now. Its late and we will on a trip tomorrow. I will presumably come in like fourteen hours or so.

[EdmundMcGaben]

EDIT: Also you can divert peoples attention with false reading. Which you can easily, if you are skilled at reading basically.

[melanora]

WOW this thread blew up just one second here.

The moment anyone softclaims is the moment I slap a bitch. Be warned.

"Oh my goodness that man is ashes oh my goodness this is alarming"
Is that how you roleplay?

I smell Jester Twins.

I want a mass role claim, I think it would narrow our choices down and really put off the mafia as they can't discuss what role they are going to claim.
I feel we should mass roleclaim today it would be more beneficial for the town to make their night action decisions. It would also confirm some townies if they are not cc'ed

No

Basically all of my emotions about roleclaiming are embodied by K1ll's comment.

Just read through everything, and I'm gonna say that a mass roleclaim d3 sounds fine, given the mayor is still alive at that point.

By Day 3, we should have Mayor and a Confirmed Townie, and at least one of those should still be alive [reveal by them d2 and mafia can only kill one max N2]. So, I think Day 3 is the safest bet.

Thank you for the role list translated into what we know. Okay so...

I have nothing else left to say. The only person that nudges at my scumdar thus far is ronit, but I feel like that's just ronit in general at this point.

[Greatplayer01]

I will "defend" myself later in the day.
For now, I'll get rest.

Oh mela plz don't start again CFM 6... Bc one of the Jester twins here actually turned out Jester. The other one was Cit...

[leyva45]

Fuck dat. I prefer to use quick reply, but i lag so hard right now it doesnt loads.

Yes, i lag because of the shit internet.

Now to my suspicions:

You came with a warm welcome to presumably clean yourself, seem like a nice town member. Possible = Jailor, Godfather, Neutral Killing.

You said you will try to scum/townread people, but you never stated that you are going to use it to towns advantage. It could be for yours advantage truly... Possible = Neutral Killing, Godfather (Also try to get the attention off of yourself)

You try to go with the majority as you have no leads so far (Mass roleclaim) Possible = Neutral Benign, Any Neutral. (Still possible mafia.)

You said you will keep an eye on people, presumable accusing them later and get the attention off of yourself. Possible = Any Neutral, Mafia


I gotta go now. Its late and we will on a trip tomorrow. I will presumably come in like fourteen hours or so.

I don't get one thing you're saying.

[melanora]

I will "defend" myself later in the day.
For now, I'll get rest.

Oh mela plz don't start again CFM 6... Bc one of the Jester twins here actually turned out Jester. The other one was Cit...

I have the power of premonition. Respect my powers!

[VucubCaquix]

I will "defend" myself later in the day.
For now, I'll get rest.

Oh mela plz don't start again CFM 6... Bc one of the Jester twins here actually turned out Jester. The other one was Cit...

I have the power of premonition. Respect my powers!

Half of the people you trusted most turned out to be mafia.

[melanora]

Um no the people I trusted most were Gobble, Neas, and Obi.
I was like 75% on Matt. That was the only real surprise.

I STILL KNEW THE JESTER DAMMIT.

[Swordsworth]

Enough about past games

Edmund, I'd like to hear your thoughts again. But can they be a bit more...eh...clearer?

[Knockoff]

Fuck dat. I prefer to use quick reply, but i lag so hard right now it doesnt loads.

Yes, i lag because of the shit internet.

Now to my suspicions:

You came with a warm welcome to presumably clean yourself, seem like a nice town member. Possible = Jailor, Godfather, Neutral Killing.

You said you will try to scum/townread people, but you never stated that you are going to use it to towns advantage. It could be for yours advantage truly... Possible = Neutral Killing, Godfather (Also try to get the attention off of yourself)

You try to go with the majority as you have no leads so far (Mass roleclaim) Possible = Neutral Benign, Any Neutral. (Still possible mafia.)

You said you will keep an eye on people, presumable accusing them later and get the attention off of yourself. Possible = Any Neutral, Mafia


I gotta go now. Its late and we will on a trip tomorrow. I will presumably come in like fourteen hours or so.

Regarding the 'warm welcome', there's no real reason to find that suspicious. Friendliness doesn't equal town and I doubt anyone thinks that. Would it be weird to think that a warm welcome was just him being friendly?

Your other problem would be that Great implied he'd accuse others in the future. Under your own logic, you'd be suspicious, because you just accused someone right now.

I'm pretty sure that when someone mentions reads, they're implying that they'll be trying to find scum and using them to town's advantage.

How does he try to go with the majority? I don't see anything indicating that.

[smallworldz]

im ok with the mass roleclaims.

gonna try rolereading on pros.

[Exacerbated]

I respectfully disagree with a Day 1 mass claim strategy.

The chance of an Agent is mathematically reasonable, given the several instances of Random Mafia in the Report Card list.

The information that the Mafia gain off the Agent will allow them to know exactly where they can push our buttons because they already have an information ad vantage over us.

They can potentially force a MYLO situation way too early before the investigatives have time to gather information and before the Town, as a whole, has time to pressure people for reads, opinions, and reactions.

A Day 3 Mass claim seems to be the a safer bet. The likelihood that we can confirm a couple townies becomes higher and we will be able to bypass Agent infiltration much more easily.

[Swordsworth]

Day 1 mass claim isn't even possible, the 'mayor' can only reveal during the Class Trial.

[Animate]

Also not to be hyped but the framer this game is going to do a GREAT job. Framing as sk, mafia member AND clearing people.

I do think there is a framer. 4 random hopes and all unique. No janitor chance. No blackmailer.

There are still 6 possible random despair roles for the 4 random despair to be picked out of, so while it's likely, there's no guarantee of a framer being rolled. But if there were one, I'd say the framer is actually slightly weakened in this game, since they're only able to frame during investigation phases, so they'd have to predict in advance who's likely to be checked without necessarily being able to consult with their teammates about their decision.

By Day 3, we should have Mayor and a Confirmed Townie, and at least one of those should still be alive [reveal by them d2 and mafia can only kill one max N2]. So, I think Day 3 is the safest bet.

Huh? If by confirmed townie, you mean someone else's reveal by Naegi, that's only if the plan is to reveal a pro-hope (?) player, and that's not a guarantee to happen. Also, you're not acknowledging other night kill possibilities (SK, Pekoyama).

Day 3 is probably the earliest we can safely massclaim (though there's still the agent to worry about), since we likely won't be able to 100% confirm any players before the end of the D2 investigation phase.

[Exacerbated]

There could be merit in revealing an experienced FM player whose alignment is uncertain. That way, we have a competent Town Leader in the event that they are Town and a free kill on scum in the case they are not.

[TheCow]

Mel, you should know I'm never really a jester: I only lynch them ; )

Hopping on my pc now for doing shit.

[TheCow]

Jumping the gun there, Edmund. Why those two in specific? I'm sure you could pitch it somehow to have half of the game's players seeming that way. Anything else on your mind?

[VucubCaquix]

Yeah its a bit early for making precise reads about anyone.

[K1llthestory]

Well, things got off to a quick start.

[VucubCaquix]

Well, things got off to a quick start.

SCUM

[K1llthestory]

Well, things got off to a quick start.

SCUM

[Swordsworth]

But now discussion has sort of died....

I'd like to hear opinions from Firelight about claiming plans.

[dota2reporter]

So the plan is

We wait till day 2's class trial

Mayor reveals and reveals someone

IF it's a bad role we lynch them

IF not they are confirmed too

And we lynch someone else
right?