CFM 7 | Forumangan Ronpa [Game Over] Fragments of Hope win!

[Swordsworth]

We need to do the claim via whispers, and we don't have anyone trust worthy to do it, unfortunately. Otherwise, if it were a normal mayor, I would totes say reveal.

Also, I should say, if someone is smart enough, they could design a code that changes based on what role they want to claim.

Cow...you shouldn't have pointed this out.

[ronit]

Ehehehehe ronit. The executioner equivalent and their assistant(if they exist) will be scouring the code for their targets and could result in a townie dying. Not ideal.

This seems like a load of crap

Cow only some can change the meaning of a code and this code benefits town as not all of them are that good at codemaking to do that.

[TheCow]

Do remember theres still random hopes and lots of civilians.

All scum will claim Cits. When that happens, we have a shittonne of confirmed town, and we go crazy #yolo

#dontletyourdreamsbedreams

[dota2reporter]

Maybe after 24 hours are up Lawyer/mayor would reveal themselves and we will whisper roles to them? btw i think lawyer is better because of the whatever-he-is-called-exe

[tfiosforevah]

Well, this is getting somewhere but not really.

[Swordsworth]

Ehehehehe ronit. The executioner equivalent and their assistant(if they exist) will be scouring the code for their targets and could result in a townie dying. Not ideal.

This seems like a load of crap

Cow only some can change the meaning of a code and this code benefits town as not all of them are that good at codemaking to do that.

Ronit! The executioner equivalent wants the 'mayor' and the godfather to die! Even by making a mistake they can still deal damage to the town.

[EdmundMcGaben]

Like the original mayor games. Mayor Games are NEVER easy if everyone claim their roles. They call it easy because half (or all) the scum dont claim their role. On forum we are mostly experienced players, so we will less likely see no claimers.

[TheCow]

Here's the plan: No one die N1, we wait out the Investigation phase, and kind of sit on our thumbs for 72 or whatever hours, and then during the class trial Nagato (or whateverthefuck) reveals, we all claim, and shit happens from there.

Also, I want protection tonight.

[Animate]

Hi. Things are happening pretty quickly right now.

Just wanted to point out that the only time Naegi could reveal would be during the class trial phase, which would be when we aren't able to send whispers/claims. So we'd have to be able to keep them alive for a night if we wanted to do a mass claim through whispers. Letters could also work, but if there were an agent, that's not a good idea. Same thing with Togami/lawyer, since we wouldn't be able to vote to lynch someone during an investigation phase.

If we all claim today, they can't coordinate their claims. That is the advantage.

The problem with this is claiming order; someone could claim to have not been on when a mass-claim has been going on and claim towards the end, giving them a safer chance to settle into an unclaimed role once a lot of other people have claimed.

[TheCow]

You're a smart cookie, animate. So we keep them alive, claim D3, and then go from there? >_>

This seems ineffective, though it's the earliest we can do this mass claim.

[milte345]

Here's the plan: No one die N1, we wait out the Investigation phase, and kind of sit on our thumbs for 72 or whatever hours, and then during the class trial Nagato (or whateverthefuck) reveals, we all claim, and shit happens from there.

Also, I want protection tonight.

Its Naegi you son of a bitch

[Swordsworth]

Ronit, when we're talking a specially structured sentence to symbolize a specific word, it's not that hard to leave it open to 2+ equally valid interpretations.

[dota2reporter]

Just dont reveal now. Its not a good time. Dont reveal on investigation phase on day 2 too.

[ObiWan]

Reminder: You can whisper during the investigation phase but not the class trial phase.
You may also send letters at night time.

Everyone that can use their action during the investigation phase can use it now. If you do not use it before the 24 hours are up - You lose you'll have to wait for the next investigation phase to use it .

[Animate]

You're a smart cookie, animate. So we keep them alive, claim D3, and then go from there? >_>

This seems ineffective, though it's the earliest we can do this mass claim.

Here we run into the potential agent problem again, since at that point the power would have been revealed (should we be going through with this), and there's not much stopping all of the scum from targeting them at night. Not to mention that when Naegi reveals, they automatically reveal the role of another person.

We've got a somewhat comfortable majority right now, and the special mechanics of the game seem to discourage claiming. I don't want to say yet that claiming would be a bad idea in this game, but we'd probably have to wait before seeing if it's a plausible idea at all.

[TheCow]

I have a plan to circumvent the Agent, don't worry.
The second revealed person can act as just another confirmed town (or lynch victim). In my opinion, it should be used aggressively, against someone who seems like scum.

[Swordsworth]

With the second confirmed player, if they are town they can act as a diverter. Some claims can go to one, some to the other.

[Knockoff]

Yeah, I don't have a problem with mass-claiming day three.

Wooooooaaaah, this got out of the fun happy D1 stuff faster than 7B did. I thought it was unusual, but I guess not

Anyway, thoughts. I don't have any yet, this thread has been open for about 15 minutes or somethin like that.

But I don't really want to mass roleclaim immediately, won't that just set targets for scum to kill?

D3 sounds like a good time to massclaim to me, provided Naegi/the Mayor sticks around long enough without being murdered. It's not really as soon as I'd like but considering the circumstances.. Besides, better than D1.

Besides, there's always reads whilst we wait. :/


Dota, s/he can't reveal right now or investigation phase D2. And Milte, that's kinda rude :/

What's with the sudden change between these two posts? First you say you don't want to mass-claim immediately, then you say that day three isn't as soon as you'd like to claim in your next post.

[EdmundMcGaben]

Gossie = Obvious scum ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[EdmundMcGaben]

This is going to be a long, long journey. I'll just play isaac on the meantime.

Also:
/vote Gossie

Hueheuheuheuheuhue ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[girisawesomer]

This is going to be a long, long journey. I'll just play isaac on the meantime.

Also:
/vote Gossie

Hueheuheuheuheuhue ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Pick up Soy Milk just for me.

[VucubCaquix]

With the second confirmed player, if they are town they can act as a diverter. Some claims can go to one, some to the other.

That would make it impossible to coordinate. And this all assumes they are town and they stay alive. We'll jus have to see how things work out.

[Achro]

Just woke up. Still trying to process things, anyways, I'm here already.
Will comb over again once fully awake though

[Arcthurus]

I decided to translate the roles into how we know them in FM. Use this for reference if you, like me, aren't willing to memorize a bunch of japanese names.
Please tell me if I forgot/messed up something.

All Possible Student Report Cards: Spoiler: Makoto Naegi - Mayor who only reveals during the trial time (no whispers available), another player's role is revealed in the process.
Kiyotaka Ishimaru - Jailor.
Byakuya Togami - Lawyer.
Gundam Tanaka - Retributionist.
Kyouko Kirigiri - Sheriff.
Chiaki Nanami - LinearPoint Investigator.
Mahiru Koizumi - Lookout who can detect how many letters their target received, if only one visitor left letters their identity will be know.
Sonia Nevermind - Spy who also gets the tapped person's received letters.
Nekomaru Nidai - Bodyguard.
Mikan Tsumiki - Doctor.
Aoi Asahina - Escort.
Kazuichi Souda - Marshal who cannot scare Arsonists.
Chihiro Fujisaki - Veteran who can use one alert to protect another player from every and all actions besides transportation. Any actions prevented this way will be informed.
Sakura Ogami - Vigilante who can shoot N1.
Ibuki Mioda - Medium.
Mondo Oowada - Transporter, doesn't affect letter receiving.
Reserve Course Student - Citizen.

Junko Enoshima - Godfather.
Mukuro Ikusaba - Mafioso.
Leon Kuwata - Framer who targets during the investigation phase. They can make their targets come up as "Framer", "Veteran" and "Serial Killer" (Although if it fools the "Investigator", shouldn't doctor come up as well if framing as SK?).
Sayaka Maizono - Consort.
Hiyoko Saionji - Consigliere.
Akane Owakri - Agent who can catch letters.
The Ultimate Impostor - Disguiser.



Celestia Ludenburg - Witch, no effect to letter sending.
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu - A Executioner twist: Must kill both the Mayor and the Godfather and survive. Checks someone each investigation phase to know if they're Mayor/GF.
Peko Pekoyama - The Exe's assistant, is their BG/Has a single vig shot that can kill the godfather.
Nagito Komaeda - Jester. 100% sure this is Achro's role
Yasuhiro Hagakure - Survivor.
Hajime Hinata - Amne, can only not remember TPw roles.
Touko Fukawa - SK who can choose not killing to become NS to sheriff/"Veteran" to Investigator.
Teruteru Hanamura - Arsonist.

[EdmundMcGaben]

This is going to be a long, long journey. I'll just play isaac on the meantime.

Also:
/vote Gossie

Hueheuheuheuheuhue ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Pick up Soy Milk just for me.

Just picked it up with lot of damage modifiers and book of belial as judas. Am overkill.