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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby Cyantic » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:57 pm

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TheCow wrote:Unrelated, but:

No one softclaim your role. Do not hard claim unless you have to. Investigative roles, avoid revealing, unless your're 100% you have a lead. Citizens, be active. Just because you don't have a night action doesn't mean you should lay back. Scum hunting will be key in this game, and everyone needs to play a part.

Because of agents, hardclaiming before the 24 hour mark is ill-advised.


Can I ask what the difference between softclaiming and hardclaiming is? Sorry :/


Softclaiming is where somebody will softly hint at their role throughout the game. Hardclaiming is full out "I am X" in the thread.
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby MiniatureCowgirl » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:57 pm

Soft claim is hinting to your role,

Hard claiming is claiming your role directly
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby ADorkOfPork » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:58 pm

I refuse to listen! Guys, I am the Muffin Man!!!!
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby K1llthestory » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:58 pm

Cyantic wrote:
TheCow wrote:Unrelated, but:

No one softclaim your role. Do not hard claim unless you have to. Investigative roles, avoid revealing, unless your're 100% you have a lead. Citizens, be active. Just because you don't have a night action doesn't mean you should lay back. Scum hunting will be key in this game, and everyone needs to play a part.

Because of agents, hardclaiming before the 24 hour mark is ill-advised.


Seriously, do not softclaim. I will back Cow up on this. Soft claiming has screwed so many people in these games. Either fully come out if you have a good reason to do so, or just stay silent. Investigatives especially, we can't afford to lose you. This could be a tight game with the amount of neutrals there are, and even doing our best scum hunting, we might need some back up.

If you are a town power, think long and hard about revealing D2 after the 24 hour mark. It might be worthwhile, but it might be extremely dangerous. The only person I would definitely recommend not to reveal as Power is the Lawyer. Anything else, I think it's your call.


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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby MiniatureCowgirl » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:01 pm

K1ll, I'ma slap you
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby K1llthestory » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:02 pm

MiniatureCowgirl wrote:K1ll, I'ma slap you

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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby parkerparkour » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:02 pm

ADorkOfPork wrote:I refuse to listen! Guys, I am the Muffin Man!!!!


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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby ADorkOfPork » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:03 pm

It's only D1 and I cracked the entire Role List + Who has what roles.


Spoiler: Town Power (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Town Investigative (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Town Investigative (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Town Protective (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Town Protective (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Town Killing (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Random Town (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Random Town (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Random Town (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Citizen - Someone
Citizen - Someone

Godfather - Someone
Mafia Deception (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Mafia Deception (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Mafia Support (Real Role: Something) - Someone


Neutral Benign (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Neutral Evil (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Random Neutral (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Neutral Killing (Real Role: Something) - Someone
Neutral Killing (Real Role: Something) - Someone
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby TheCow » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:05 pm

Vet, do not put your name in your DN. If you kill, say an NK, the Mafia won't know who you are. If you kill, say a maf, the NKs won't know who you are.
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby SpellChecker » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:06 pm

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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby Cyantic » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:08 pm

SpellChecker wrote:Lets lynch the someone guy


So, Spellchecker, you're taking a raincheck on my earlier questions?

Also, since me and Cow have been doing a lot of Prankster talking, what are you thoughts folks? What do you think we're likely to see out of him?
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby K1llthestory » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:09 pm

Cyantic wrote:
SpellChecker wrote:Lets lynch the someone guy


So, Spellchecker, you're taking a raincheck on my earlier questions?

Also, since me and Cow have been doing a lot of Prankster talking, what are you thoughts folks? What do you think we're likely to see out of him?

What we least expect.
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby TheCow » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:11 pm

k1ll, cut the d1-ness for a second, so we can get as much done as possible before the day ends. This game isn't a night start for a reason, but if we don't use our time, it might as well be.

Everyone should at least give their 2 cents on this.
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby nighthawk101 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:16 pm

Popping in to say hey and /vote Invenio

Fairly busy today but I'll be procrastinating posting occasionally.
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby Cyantic » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:16 pm

nighthawk101 wrote:Popping in to say hey and /vote Invenio

Fairly busy today but I'll be procrastinating posting occasionally.


Please post some of your thoughts. We've got a lot of talk about the Prankster, and there's some other stuff if you're interested on commenting on that.
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby K1llthestory » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:18 pm

TheCow wrote:k1ll, cut the d1-ness for a second, so we can get as much done as possible before the day ends. This game isn't a night start for a reason, but if we don't use our time, it might as well be.

Everyone should at least give their 2 cents on this.

I was being serious.

The prankster is going to want t confuse us, so he's going to use what we least expect against us, but he's going to be consistent as well.
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby SpellChecker » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:18 pm

Cyantic wrote:
SpellChecker wrote:Lets lynch the someone guy


So, Spellchecker, you're taking a raincheck on my earlier questions?

Also, since me and Cow have been doing a lot of Prankster talking, what are you thoughts folks? What do you think we're likely to see out of him?


I just checked it and didn't really notice that you asked me more questions. My apologies.

How do you play Godfather? Mafioso? Framer? Consort? Consigliere? I am not certain how to answer to this one as I simply pick my targets arbitrarily, I would pick the suspected target by investigators and sheriffs.
How do you play Spy? I put each data I find in the mafia chat in my will, and some of the times I put in my will what they are discussing about.
How do you play Serial Killer? I just kill those who seem to be really quiet.
How do you play Arsonist? I just douse who seem to be quiet.

Probably not the best strategies, but at least they are not the worst. :P
  
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby Cyantic » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:19 pm

SpellChecker wrote:
Cyantic wrote:
SpellChecker wrote:Lets lynch the someone guy


So, Spellchecker, you're taking a raincheck on my earlier questions?

Also, since me and Cow have been doing a lot of Prankster talking, what are you thoughts folks? What do you think we're likely to see out of him?


I just checked it and didn't really notice that you asked me more questions. My apologies.

How do you play Godfather? Mafioso? Framer? Consort? Consigliere? I am not certain how to answer to this one as I simply pick my targets arbitrarily, I would pick the suspected target by investigators and sheriffs.
How do you play Spy? I put each data I find in the mafia chat in my will, and some of the times I put in my will what they are discussing about.
How do you play Serial Killer? I just kill those who seem to be really quiet.
How do you play Arsonist? I just douse who seem to be quiet.

Probably not the best strategies, but at least they are not the worst. :P


Thank you.
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby parkerparkour » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:19 pm

Cyantic wrote:
SpellChecker wrote:Lets lynch the someone guy


So, Spellchecker, you're taking a raincheck on my earlier questions?

Also, since me and Cow have been doing a lot of Prankster talking, what are you thoughts folks? What do you think we're likely to see out of him?


I think it really depends on how much teamwork the mafia is capable of. If, say, the mafia are well attuned to each other and plan ahead the prankster would work as part of a combo, depending on what roles they have, and if not we might not see much or a lot of variety depending on if they wanted to play it safe or not
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby parkerparkour » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:20 pm

I'm not sure that made sense, sorry
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby Cyantic » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:24 pm

parkerparkour wrote:
Cyantic wrote:
SpellChecker wrote:Lets lynch the someone guy


So, Spellchecker, you're taking a raincheck on my earlier questions?

Also, since me and Cow have been doing a lot of Prankster talking, what are you thoughts folks? What do you think we're likely to see out of him?


I think it really depends on how much teamwork the mafia is capable of. If, say, the mafia are well attuned to each other and plan ahead the prankster would work as part of a combo, depending on what roles they have, and if not we might not see much or a lot of variety depending on if they wanted to play it safe or not


What kind of combos would we see if we assume this mafia works together well, in your mind?
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby TheCow » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:24 pm

Thank you for clarifying, k1ll. That makes a lot of sense, them trying to cause as much chaos as possible before they are found out.

There is not a Mafioso this game, because there are no MK or RM slots on the role list. Escorts will be more powerful because of this. Also, the odds of an agent is relatively lower this game. If there is, say, a Consort or Consig there cannot be one. If we're lucky, they just have two framers, for the MD slots :P
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby nighthawk101 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:25 pm

Cyantic wrote:
nighthawk101 wrote:Popping in to say hey and /vote Invenio

Fairly busy today but I'll be procrastinating posting occasionally.


Please post some of your thoughts. We've got a lot of talk about the Prankster, and there's some other stuff if you're interested on commenting on that.


For Prankster: I noticed that a) Prankster gets to choose the message and b) it entirely overrides night actions done to you, both of which I missed when I first looked at the rolecard.

I think Cow mentioned the "harassment" and "risk-reward" strategies in terms of simply sowing confusion or attempting to fool Town with large plays. Each has their own merits, but the harassment/confusion strategy requires less planning and may be more appealing to the Mafia (depending on their members). As numbers go down they may move into more strategic plays.

If I were Mafia, I would hope for two Pranksters- one to confuse and one to lay low and make larger plays.
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby SirCakez » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:31 pm

I think this math is right, don't hurt me if it's wrong.
With 4 mafia deception roles and two counts of Prankster, we have a roughly 40% chance to have one Prankster and a 16% chance to have two.
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Re: FM 7B | Tricks and Pranks Ensue | Day 1

Postby SirCakez » Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:32 pm

nighthawk101 wrote:
Cyantic wrote:
nighthawk101 wrote:Popping in to say hey and /vote Invenio

Fairly busy today but I'll be procrastinating posting occasionally.


Please post some of your thoughts. We've got a lot of talk about the Prankster, and there's some other stuff if you're interested on commenting on that.


For Prankster: I noticed that a) Prankster gets to choose the message and b) it entirely overrides night actions done to you, both of which I missed when I first looked at the rolecard.

I think Cow mentioned the "harassment" and "risk-reward" strategies in terms of simply sowing confusion or attempting to fool Town with large plays. Each has their own merits, but the harassment/confusion strategy requires less planning and may be more appealing to the Mafia (depending on their members). As numbers go down they may move into more strategic plays.

If I were Mafia, I would hope for two Pranksters- one to confuse and one to lay low and make larger plays.

It doesn't "completely override" night actions, the example in the OP shows this. An Invest will still get results if they are "roleblocked", for example.
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