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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby TheCow » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:15 pm

When I was Maf, my biggest fear was us not having anyone that didn't have results act. As in, I couldn't be the killer, because I need to give someone the RB result, same goes for Arckas. Perhaps the Maf feels the same way? I could RB someone I think is Mafia who doesn't have a major result, and see if that works.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:18 pm

TheCow wrote:When I was Maf, my biggest fear was us not having anyone that didn't have results act. As in, I couldn't be the killer, because I need to give someone the RB result, same goes for Arckas. Perhaps the Maf feels the same way? I could RB someone I think is Mafia who doesn't have a major result, and see if that works.

Same here.

To go along with that fear, I was worried about having someone like Monster Hunter or Joel making sure you did as you were supposed to. We should do the same here.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Swordsworth » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:20 pm

Ugh....lovely, the day ends an hour after I'll be waking up :roll:

Okay. I do agree that leyva should not be roleblocked tonight, provided he'll be handing out a syringe.

Cow, the hole I see is in that someone without a night action may well be mafia.

Also, allow me to suggest Monster Hunter track one of the people who's tentative actions are confirmed.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:24 pm

Swordsworth wrote:Also, allow me to suggest Monster Hunter track one of the people who's tentative actions are confirmed.

Depends on who.

If the effects will be seen in the morning as expected, then their is no point to having Monster Hunter follow those people.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Swordsworth » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:25 pm

I'm talking more along the lines of leyva or Santa.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby TheCow » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:26 pm

Swordsworth wrote:Ugh....lovely, the day ends an hour after I'll be waking up :roll:

Okay. I do agree that leyva should not be roleblocked tonight, provided he'll be handing out a syringe.

Cow, the hole I see is in that someone without a night action may well be mafia.

Also, allow me to suggest Monster Hunter track one of the people who's tentative actions are confirmed.

That's exactly my point. If they ARE mafia, wouldn't they choose these types of people to carry out the kill? The perfect targets for roleblocking and tracking, IMO.

What happens if a player without a night action and a player with a night action are targeted by Cortana?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:28 pm

Swordsworth wrote:I'm talking more along the lines of leyva or Santa.

Leyva's action will be directing upon Neasans actions, which is expected.

Santa's action requires the player who is getting contracted knowing they are on the list, so again that will be seen.


I'm leaning towards one dose of nano-bot caffeine for Neasans, just because I'm not set fully convinced she's town. Sadly she's hidden, which furthers this theory though I know she's always hidden. Can't find when she was last online.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:31 pm

TheCow wrote:What happens if a player without a night action and a player with a night action are targeted by Cortana?

When your idle, counts as self-targeting.

So for example if I swapped a player with an action going somewhere different with someone without an action, I would redirect their action on them.

If Ryu targets Mario but I swap Ryu target with Phoenix wright target (themselves), Ryu will not target Phoenix wright.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby TheCow » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:33 pm

I'd rather have Met's input. That would mean if you target the Killer, and say PW, the killer would kill themselves, which I don't think is how it works, unless you asked him already.

Anyway, I was thinking of having Cortana act as a soft RB.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:38 pm

TheCow wrote:I'd rather have Met's input. That would mean if you target the Killer, and say PW, the killer would kill themselves, which I don't think is how it works, unless you asked him already.

Anyway, I was thinking of having Cortana act as a soft RB.

I didn't ask him about the the killer question, but thats what he told me.

I believe that in that scenario, following the logic, the killer would target the PW and not themselves. That makes more sense to me.

I can basically redirect anything onto someone else without an action by my own will. I can't control fully if two people with actions actions'. Nothing happens if I control two people without an action.

Hypothetically, I could steal Mario's mushrooms.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby leyva45 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:42 pm

Swordsworth wrote:I'm talking more along the lines of leyva or Santa.

I would rather have Scraf targeted
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby TheCow » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:49 pm

Ah, that's true. You're right on that then. There goes that idea ._.

It would be nice for Met to get specific with it though, for some of the strange interactions that could end up happening.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:55 pm

Also going to request that I'd be taken off any list that involve healing me. I want other people to get a better chance at healing.
I'm looking at my role, and if they want to attack me them by all means- let them. I'd rather other people live then I live, I am not as important.

Plus, if I really wanted to I could steal Mario's mushrooms like I said.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:38 am

I'd think Scraf would be good to put on the list of people to interrogate, got to have someone protective on the trusting side.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby TheCow » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:40 am

Can scraf even be interrogated? I would think his ability would negate it.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:41 am

TheCow wrote:Can scraf even be interrogated? I would think his ability would negate it.

Not if Wander has anything to say about it.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby TheCow » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:43 am

Would Samus just be redirected onto Wander? It doesn't say redirection immunity in her RC.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:08 am

I'm just going to leave this here and go to bed, probably am going to need to pick this up hours before the end.

Ryu (TheCow) - Roleblocking Nellyfox
Mario (Knockoff) - Nothing
Monster Hunter (SirCakes) - Tracking TheCow
Nathan Drake (LeScraf) - Random, whatever is given to him via list.
Joel (Wafflme3) - Watching X which is assumingly someone worth wanting protection
Link (RockFire) - Random, whatever is given to him via list.
Kirby (nighthawk101) - Nothing
Samus Aran (Neasans) - Getting nano-bots and will check the role of X and LeScraf. (To be given/if it works out)
Solid Snake (Leyva45) - Giving nanites to Neasans
Cortana (Arckas) - Taking Knockoff shrooms or otherwise doing his own thing.
Wander (Swordsworth) - Enduring for Scraf (if it works out, otherwise random)
Altair (Santa07) - Contracting Munchlax
Robin (mathew8376) - Nothing
John Mashton (Munchlax) Nothing


List still need to be made, I would greatly appreciate someone making them. Remember that they should have somewhat overlapping characters, perhaps 1 or 2 of them. Remember that each protective is its own special beast, and that their aren't as many.

With that, good actual night. I'll see you all in a few hours.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Waffleme3 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:46 am

Ok i will check X
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby SirCakez » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:15 am

Arckas wrote:I'm just going to leave this here and go to bed, probably am going to need to pick this up hours before the end.

Ryu (TheCow) - Roleblocking Nellyfox
Mario (Knockoff) - Nothing
Monster Hunter (SirCakes) - Tracking TheCow
Nathan Drake (LeScraf) - Random, whatever is given to him via list.
Joel (Wafflme3) - Watching X which is assumingly someone worth wanting protection
Link (RockFire) - Random, whatever is given to him via list.
Kirby (nighthawk101) - Nothing
Samus Aran (Neasans) - Getting nano-bots and will check the role of X and LeScraf. (To be given/if it works out)
Solid Snake (Leyva45) - Giving nanites to Neasans
Cortana (Arckas) - Taking Knockoff shrooms or otherwise doing his own thing.
Wander (Swordsworth) - Enduring for Scraf (if it works out, otherwise random)
Altair (Santa07) - Contracting Munchlax
Robin (mathew8376) - Nothing
John Mashton (Munchlax) Nothing


List still need to be made, I would greatly appreciate someone making them. Remember that they should have somewhat overlapping characters, perhaps 1 or 2 of them. Remember that each protective is its own special beast, and that their aren't as many.

With that, good actual night. I'll see you all in a few hours.

Deciding who I track ahead of time is not a good idea, the mafia can too easily have someone else do the kill and we will know if two people aren't roleblocked that Cow or Neasans are mafia. Same thing goes for Cow himself. The rest of that plan looks solid to me, albeit I'm still worried about the possiblilty of Neasans being Mafia or even *shudders* SK.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby RockFire » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:22 am

Yeah, think about it in hindsight, the lists might not be a good idea because I'm trying to find a balance of roles to distribute and I'm hoping these work and are balanced, but just tell me if I should change some people around.

My list Spoiler: Swords
Arckas
Night
Sircakez
Nelly
Knock
Neasans

Waffle's List Spoiler: Swords
Cow
Leyva
Lescraf
Santa
RockFire
Munch

Swords List Spoiler: Neasans
Waffle
Matthew
Munch
Arckas
Leyva
Sircakez


And Sircakez, the point is that you force someone to do their action if you track them because they would not be able to do anything else.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby nighthawk101 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:53 am

I don't believe that nanites give an additional charge, just an additional use that night. Giving Neasans/Samus more than one syringe doesn't do much (would that take multiple nights? Not ideal). She'll have to be inactive tonight if we want the double-use night as well, since nanites are used the next night and Neasans only has two charges.
Pros: Find out two alignments (if Neasans/Samus is Town), roleblock two scummy people
Cons: No charges for late game, possibility of lying about alignments
I'm not sure which option is the best, but leaving a charge for late game could allow us to stop a kill or something similar.

What does SirCakez/Hunter tracking Cow/Ryu do? It's only useful in the improbable event that both Cow/Ryu and Nelly/Wright are Mafia. In terms of confirming that someone performed their action, a player without a "visible" night action (I believe Swords/Wander, Rock/Link, Waffle/Joel, and Drake/Scraf don't give notifications).
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Swordsworth » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:06 am

Neasans, pls. We need SOME input from you before the day ends ;_;

If I endure for a person targeted by Samus, that just wastes their action. I think Neasans should say who she is targeting tonight, if anyone.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby SirCakez » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:12 am

Swordsworth wrote:Neasans, pls. We need SOME input from you before the day ends ;_;

If I endure for a person targeted by Samus, that just wastes their action. I think Neasans should say who she is targeting tonight, if anyone.

Neasans and Scraf both need replacements right now. As for what Night and Rock posted, I will not be tracking Cow, as we will know in the morning who was roleblocked by him. I will choose one of the other visiting roles that does not show up to the person targeted, so not Arckas, leyva, Santa or Neasans.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Swordsworth » Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:18 am

Arckas, I did get an answer on the Kirby question. Kirby's move is a day action, so nothing would happen out of the ordinary.
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