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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby TheCow » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:00 pm

There is currently one vote on Stella. 4 are needed for majority.

/vote Stella
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby Knockoff » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:07 pm

Yeah, I'm fine with this plan. SK should know that their best bet to win is going after mafia tonight.

/vote stellaluna

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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby stellaluna » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:34 pm

TheCow wrote:Leyva, I want you to give me a syringe tonight.

Joel, watch me.

gee I wonder how many of the people you gave instructions to just now are scum
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby TheCow » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:36 pm

stellaluna wrote:
TheCow wrote:Leyva, I want you to give me a syringe tonight.

Joel, watch me.

gee I wonder how many of the people you gave instructions to just now are scum

Both, probably :distracted
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby stellaluna » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:51 pm

but muh discussion time
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby TheCow » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:58 pm

#justdoit
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby nighthawk101 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:12 pm

I took another look, and assuming Cow can block the Mafia kill, a SK lynch puts us at 3v3, a Mafia lynch puts us at 3v1v1 or 2v2v1, and a town lynch puts us at 1v3v1 or 2v2v1.

stella's Mafia, but I'm not sure if tfios is Maf or SK. Ideally, we're able to pull off a non-stella Mafia lynch and I kill both stella and tfios, putting us at 2v1 or 3.

Based on this, I feel that our greatest chance of success lies in lynching Mafia (not stella) so I can get the most amount of kills and pull Town ahead.

Flipflopping (again) as to whether that's leyva or knock. Will post again soon.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby TheCow » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:14 pm

/unvote
If you're confident. I was hoping that the kills would sort this out for us.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby leyva45 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:24 pm

Okay, I didn't give a syringe last night although I was supposed to. I have 1 left.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby nighthawk101 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:41 pm

Alright, I reread through knock and leyva's posts.
Knock- acts similar to GFM, unfortunately. Posts are kind of short out of context but timestamps show they're in the middle of discussion. Has acted townlike, but could easily (and likely is) scum.
Leyva- starts the night actions plan from what I can see (before the reroll), but gradually the content and frequency starts to go down. Some engaging in discussion, especially about night plans.

I haven't played any games with leyva, so I don't know his playstyle, but in a vacuum he's the most likely to be scum.

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Mafia- stella, tfios, leyva
SK- knock

I'm very torn on the SK slot right now. Knock's in there because of this nice quote I found while reading through my old games:

Knockoff wrote:...Yeah, sorry about that. I did it since you trusted me a lot and I could say 'Well, if I was SK, why the hell would I kill Akame?' and attempt to clear myself based on that night kill. I could also say that it was obvious you were a Cit and it'd be dumb for me to kill you...


Up until recently, I've been assuming the SK was someone who hadn't been keeping up with the thread. Going off roles and players- Munch was a terrible kill. K1ll was terrible for the SK. Nelly was the best one in terms of strategy.
At this point, I'm seriously considering that it could be deep metagaming. I can see knock doing that, and from what I've heard, leyva is an experienced player. Either way, the SK could use the kills to push blame onto the inactives.
...but then again, the SK could be tfios actually being inactive and not caught up. Bleh.

Anyways, if we want to maximize our advantage, we can't lynch tfios today. Meanwhile, we should also lynch the Mafia member over the Serial Killer.
Right now, that's looking to be leyva.
...especially because of that last post.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby leyva45 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:08 pm

Night do you think I'm dumb, why would I say that if I was mafia?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby nighthawk101 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:12 pm

leyva45 wrote:Night do you think I'm dumb, why would I say that if I was mafia?


This exact situation.

"I wouldn't say that if I was Mafia!"
Well, you're pegged as scum. It's essentially gambit time to get yourself off the hook.

So, if you aren't Mafia, who is? Who's the SK?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby Knockoff » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:14 pm

Night, the difference between Akame and Munch dying were their positions in the game. Akame was never being lynched because of Gobble. Munch, on the other hand, was already suspected and contracted. I wouldn't kill him because I thought he was scum and there's no real benefit to killing scum early on as an SK. You could check GFM and see how I made sure all of my kills were directed at people that were likely to be town.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby Knockoff » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:30 pm

Night, if you're actually town, why would mafia not kill you if you had one member contracted and were contracting another that night? It'd be really risky for them to leave you alone. I mean, you'd basically be able to wipe out two-thirds of their team at any time you wanted.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby leyva45 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:31 pm

nighthawk101 wrote:
leyva45 wrote:Night do you think I'm dumb, why would I say that if I was mafia?


This exact situation.

"I wouldn't say that if I was Mafia!"
Well, you're pegged as scum. It's essentially gambit time to get yourself off the hook.

So, if you aren't Mafia, who is? Who's the SK?

Mafia is Stella Tfios and Mela.
You're the SK Night.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby nighthawk101 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Knockoff wrote:Night, the difference between Akame and Munch dying were their positions in the game. Akame was never being lynched because of Gobble. Munch, on the other hand, was already suspected and contracted. I wouldn't kill him because I thought he was scum and there's no real benefit to killing scum early on as an SK. You could check GFM and see how I made sure all of my kills were directed at people that were likely to be town.


Looking back at the kills in GFM, there's clearly a different strategy going on. At the same time, you can point to the kills in GFM and in this game and defend why it wouldn't be you.
At the same time, you can also point to someone else (not sure who you had planned in GFM, but at this point tfios is the top suspect) and say why they did commit the kill.

In conclusion, I have no fucking clue anymore. Either the SK is someone metagaming hard or it's tfios. Essentially the only thing I can say with 100% certainty is that stella is Mafia.

Knockoff wrote:Night, if you're actually town, why would mafia not kill you if you had one member contracted and were contracting another that night? It'd be really risky for them to leave you alone. I mean, you'd basically be able to wipe out two-thirds of their team at any time you wanted.


Because it would immediately confirm those members as scum. stella is confirmed scum right now because Mafia wanted to hide their other members.
If I was killed, you guys would likely be in a similar situation to this, except with Cow's roleblock having a much higher chance of success due to confirmed Mafia members.
Another possibility worth noting is that tfios is indeed the SK and Mafia decided to risk stella in return for taking him out.

leyva45 wrote:Mafia is Stella Tfios and Mela.
You're the SK Night.


Interesting. Why do you think I performed the kills that I did? Metagaming?
What has mel done that makes you suspect her over knock?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby nighthawk101 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Going to bed now by the way.
We have... three days? Or two?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby leyva45 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:47 pm

fuckfuckfuck.
Stella, Knockoff, Nighthawk
Stella; I know she's lying because of her results
Knockoff and night both had the opportunity to kill.

SK: Tfios, the sk who didn't pay attention.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby Knockoff » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:49 pm

I'd be interested in hearing the different strategy I used, Night. It seems like you know my play better than I do.

How exactly would it confirm both members as mafia? It could easily be explained by mafia saying that they were just killed because you went to contract Tfios. Tfios was already heavily suspected of being mafia at the time, so it's not like it'd change much. They'd be able to kill you without implicating Stella. Well, I guess if they really didn't want Tfios being confirmed scum, they might stay away, but I'd think they'd be more concerned that two of their members were contracted.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby Knockoff » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:51 pm

Leyva, I was roleblocked and wouldn't be able to kill anyone last night.

What happened to your suspicion of Mel?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby leyva45 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:00 pm

Knockoff wrote:Leyva, I was roleblocked and wouldn't be able to kill anyone last night.

What happened to your suspicion of Mel?

Nighthawk could've killed.

They could've easily called rock scum
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby melanora » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:00 pm

Something came up at work and I'm on site instead of at my computer. Won't be on until really really really late or tomorrow
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby Knockoff » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:05 pm

See, I don't think Tfios makes sense as SK because I don't see them letting Night live if they are one. I mean, they could just not be paying attention, but the night actionsl were on the last post of the thread. I'd think they'd at least read the flip and I doubt they let Night live if they're SK because being assassinated would mean they lose.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby tfiosforevah » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:28 am

Well honestly my action was rng because my internet went out and didn't come back on before the deadline...
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 4 (Wright Until The End)

Postby melanora » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:19 am

My apologies. It rarely happens but when it does I disappear. I got done at 1am and forum mafia was a nope.

I think that Leyva is the SK- WAIT tfios did you just confirm you're the SK?
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