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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:26 am

god dammit. I guess the original wasn't updated when I did my list. well, still.

Okay so we are waiting on SirCakez, who recently subbed out of 7b. I have a feeling we're going to be waiting a few days since he didn't ask for a replacement.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:27 am

melanora wrote:N2 Info
Nellyfox - "I got roleblocked." Roleblocked by TheCow.
TheNinja475 - "I slept peacefully." Rubbed Luck(?) on Knockoff.
Knockoff - "I slept peacefully."
tfiosforevah - Hey guys I was redirected but whoever I watched knockoff visited [tried to visit Rock]
TheCow - "Slept peacefully." Roleblocked Nelly.
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RockFire - "I was attacked by the Mafia. I will die at the end of today."
stellaluna - NEVER SAID ?!?!?!
nighthawk101 - Slept peacefully and contracted stella as instructed.
melanora - "Slept Peacefully." Gave Syringe #1 to ______. Did not RB/Inspect.
leyva45 - "Slept Peacefully." Gave Syringe #2 to k1ll.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:30 am

AND THIS, children, is how inactivity kills. We're basically stuck sitting here waiting until SirCakez says who they originally targetted. That stated, I feel like we're screwed here... especially because I gave my syringe to SirCakez.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby tfiosforevah » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:34 am

How long do you reckon until the prod and then the replacement if sircakez doesn't come back
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:39 am

Well, he last posted in this thread the 25th, but then we were in Night Phase when he posted over in 7B that he was going on a fairly long trip with limited activity. I guess he forgot to whisper Metrion, so if we start it from when Day Phase began, we have until tomorrow morning before the first prod, and then 18 more hours, which puts us at... Wednesday Morning.

And then by the time Metrion finds a replacement, that will put us at not having someone till Wednesday night. They'll take ten years to decide whether or not to speak up, so maybe we'll have results by Thursday Morning.... which will then give us 36 hours to decide what to do with those results until the end of day phase.

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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby TheCow » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:43 am

He just replaced out of his other game. You think he forgot about this one?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:46 am

He replaced out yesterday morning, which means that he probably would have messaged Metrion yesterday morning... and Metrion hasn't posted that we need a replacement yet in the signups area. That tells me that he probably forgot.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby TheNinja476 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:51 am

I don't suspect Knock anymore. While checking through Tios' posts its pretty obvious on who the scum is between Knock and Tios..
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby tfiosforevah » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:05 am

Can we at least wait until we figure out who knockoff visited? I'm.being 100% truthful when I say knockoff visited somebody, which they shouldn't have been able to without being mafia.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby TheNinja476 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:07 am

What if Knockoff and Tios are both scum.. Mel does have a good point about that

I'm playing the Devil's ( :twisted: ) Advocate, I still trust Knock more than Tios.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:10 am

Okay, tfios, breaking this down Barney Style for you, unless I completely misunderstand k1ll's role and the SK role.

REGARDLESS OF WHO SIRCAKEZ WANTED TO VISIT, YOU ARE LYING.

1. You targetted Rock.
2. Rock cannot be traded with himself.
3. You cannot see the SK visiting someone.
4. Rock was the Mafia target.

THEREFORE.

A. If Knockoff was the SK, you would not have seen it.
B. If Knockoff was Mafia, he would have visited Rock.

And, friendly reminder, Rock cannot be traded with himself.

Therefore - it's literally not possible for you to have seen Knockoff visit someone.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:11 am

TheNinja476 wrote:What if Knockoff and Tios are both scum.. Mel does have a good point about that

I'm playing the Devil's ( :twisted: ) Advocate, I still trust Knock more than Tios.


Either they're trying to vet the other, OR.

Ninja is actually the SK and he messed up when trying to get Knockoff lynched bc he didn't understand how it all worked.

THIS LITERALLY DOES NOT MEAN KNOCKOFF IS TOWN AT ALL.

It just means that tfios is anti town.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:17 am

stellaluna wrote:TheCow
Leyva45
melanora
SirCakez
One of these people is scum. I guess you could include me in that list as well but from my perspective I'm confirmed town anyway so that barely matters.
Oh and thanks for that letter nighthawk but with luck you won't be needing it (assuming you're town aligned). :roll:
Also I'm hoping by the lack of a roleblock that mela saved her last investigation, since using it tonight will be better now that our suspect pool is somewhat narrower.



Okay, so I just reread this post and want to take a moment about all of this.

Metrion wrote:Vote Count:

Santa07 (7):
K1llthestory, TheCow, Leyva45, stellaluna, melanora, SirCakez, Santa07.

Santa07 will be deleted!?



According to Stella, WHO WE DO NOT BELIEVE IS EVEN TOWN, only one of these seven is ANTI-TOWN. Well, not including Santa.

So removing Santa and K1ll who died and is confirmed town:

TheCow
Leyva
Stella
Melanora
SirCakez

One of the five is ANTI TOWN. Not MAFIA. It says in the role card that they'll know how many TOWN voted. That means the SK could be one of them.

Now, if I'm going to pick and choose who is Anti-Town, I would say either Stella or Leyva. Now, all of this stated, we also just learned something else...

Nellyfox
TheNinja475
Knockoff
tfiosforevah
RockFire
nighthawk101

Of these Six People... Three of them are Anti-Town. AGAIN THIS IS IF WE TRUST STELLA. If we trust me, remove Rock who is confirmed Town.

Nellyfox
Theninja475
Knockoff
tfiosforevah
nighthawk101

THREE OUT OF THE FIVE ARE ANTI TOWN. BOOM BABY. WE HAVE PROGRESS.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:19 am

Long story short, if we trust both Mel and Stella:

1/5 are Anti Town:
TheCow
Leyva
Stella
Melanora
SirCakez

3/5 are Anti Town:
Nellyfox
Theninja475
Knockoff
tfiosforevah
nighthawk101
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby tfiosforevah » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:20 am

This is how cortana works.
A targets B
C targets D
Cortana switches A and C.
A now targets D, with B targeting C.
If A and C were to target the same person, nothing would change.
This is what I think happened since I saw knockoff visiting someone when that's not possible unless they're mafia.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:21 am

tfiosforevah wrote:This is how cortana works.
A targets B
C targets D
Cortana switches A and C.
A now targets D, with B targeting C.
If A and C were to target the same person, nothing would change.
This is what I think happened since I saw knockoff visiting someone when that's not possible unless they're mafia.


Welp looks like we're stuck waiting on SirCakez/replacement, then. Until that point... this conversation should be sidetracked to discuss what I just posted.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby Nellyfox » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:22 am

I apologize if I missed this, but...who was Tfios' original target ? Did she originally target Rock, or did she target Rock after the redirect ?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:23 am

Nellyfox wrote:I apologize if I missed this, but...who was Tfios' original target ? Did she originally target Rock, or did she target Rock after the redirect ?


Originally targetted Rock. The person that we think Tfios was redirected with was SirCakez, the only person to not respond who dropped game without dropping so we have no idea who SirCakez targetted.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby Nellyfox » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:25 am

Let me ask this: what is the possibility that SirCakez targeted K1ll ?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby tfiosforevah » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:26 am

Nellyfox wrote:Let me ask this: what is the possibility that SirCakez targeted K1ll ?

I can't see sk.kills, only mafia. If knockoff was sk I would see.nothing.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:27 am

Nellyfox wrote:Let me ask this: what is the possibility that SirCakez targeted K1ll ?


It doesn't matter if SirCakez did, because tfios would not have been able to see who the SK visited. The ONLY WAY that tfios is telling the truth is if SirCakez visited Rock as well, and Knockoff performed the Mafia kill last night.

Question is, why would SirCakez visit Rock of all people?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby Nellyfox » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:28 am

tfiosforevah wrote:
Nellyfox wrote:Let me ask this: what is the possibility that SirCakez targeted K1ll ?

I can't see sk.kills, only mafia. If knockoff was sk I would see.nothing.

Well...still. >,>
You don't know if SirCakez could have targeted K1ll <,<

i'm tired &also may have forgotten that tiny detail //sob
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby TheCow » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:29 am

melanora wrote:Long story short, if we trust both Mel and Stella:

1/5 are Anti Town:
TheCow
Leyva
Stella
Melanora
SirCakez

3/5 are Anti Town:
Nellyfox
Theninja475
Knockoff
tfiosforevah
nighthawk101

Of the first 5, if Stella told the truth, she likely would be town. If she lied, well all of this information is bad, anyway.
Of the second group, we have deduced that tfios is likely antitown. Now, I doubt the SK would have tried to frame someone, so if he is antitown, I would have to guess Mafia.
As for two others, I don't know. Ninja has been a suspect of mine all along, and the third would be between nighthawk and Nelly (I trust Knockoff the most in that grouping). That being said, nothing is for sure, yet. More information would be good, for this. Assuming Tfios is antitown, does that mean we have 0 protectives left?

Now, I'm rambling a bit, but I hope my point gets through.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby Knockoff » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:31 am

I don't trust Stella, but if I had to pick the people on both lists with the assumption that she's being truthful, I'd pick Cow from the first list and Ninja, Tfios, and Night(this one is because he hasn't done much and I trust Nelly more) from the second.

Yeah, SirCakez targeting Rock doesn't make much sense since Rock was one of his strongest townreads. Guess we're waiting on him to confirm, though.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 3 (Early Halo)

Postby melanora » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:31 am

Either way, Cow, it means we're a massive step closer to figuring out who is mafia/sk. Particularly depending on who they attack tonight... just, fingers crossed that if we don't get the SK tonight, they take out some mafia.
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