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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Swordsworth » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:39 pm

Heh. If you're roleblocked, any other member can just do the kill if you anticipate being roleblocked.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:40 pm

If we don't come up with a plan, I'd say role block me. I'm just bound to screw up night actions with my compulsory ability.

That is, if we don't come up with a plan of action. Were basically going to need to mis-direct our actions in order for me to redirect them appropriately.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Nellyfox » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:41 pm

Swordsworth wrote:Heh. If you're roleblocked, any other member can just do the kill if you anticipate being roleblocked.

This is true, yes.
But this is early game and depending on what roles the mafia is made up of...I'd think they would try and make the most of things ? I would, at least.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:41 pm

Oh wait, I can just swap targets with two people without actions.

Forget about it, carry on.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby RockFire » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:45 pm

I guess that works and Nelly pls, I was doing other things and didn't read that part of the OP.

Anyway, at least now we know that the person without a night ability, if the Mafia has one, which it likely does. Will likely be the one performing the kill. So Cow, pick one of the people without a night action to RB.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby SirCakez » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:47 pm

Now that we are telling Cow to RB someone without an ability, I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia just had someone with an ability do the kill to not risk getting the kill prevented.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Nellyfox » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:49 pm

SirCakez wrote:Now that we are telling Cow to RB someone without an ability, I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia just had someone with an ability do the kill to not risk getting the kill prevented.

If that's the case then only one members gets to use their ability. Depending on who is in the mafia, that could be a good thing since they'd be hindered a bit. As in only one action is performed at night instead of two.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby nighthawk101 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:50 pm

Compulsory night actions is interesting.

Ryu/Cow can be set on someone without a night action pretty easily, but what about Drake/Scraf? We're going to need to give him a target so others don't waste their actions.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby leyva45 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:50 pm

Nellyfox wrote:
Also I'm all for being roleblocked to prove I'm not mafia.

The way you phrased this, bothers me.

It's like you expect us to know your proven if cow roleblocks you, but you won't be proven the mafia could easily swap you out for someone else.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby SirCakez » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:51 pm

Nellyfox wrote:
SirCakez wrote:Now that we are telling Cow to RB someone without an ability, I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia just had someone with an ability do the kill to not risk getting the kill prevented.

If that's the case then only one members gets to use their ability. Depending on who is in the mafia, that could be a good thing since they'd be hindered a bit. As in only one action is performed at night instead of two.

It is really dependent on who is in the mafia. I'm sure the mafia wouldn't care over losing, say Link's or Drake's ability.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:51 pm

Can I redirect mafia/serial killer kills or just natural abilities?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Nellyfox » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:52 pm

leyva45 wrote:
Nellyfox wrote:
Also I'm all for being roleblocked to prove I'm not mafia.

The way you phrased this, bothers me.

It's like you expect us to know your proven if cow roleblocks you, but you won't be proven the mafia could easily swap you out for someone else.

The way you used the comma, bothers me. :(

I'm in the mindset of mafia would try to get the most of their abilities early game to gather as much information as they can. Which is a thought I've said maybe three times now.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:55 pm

We have the guaranteed chance for one player to be executioner and jester. Remember this, because I'm certain they'll try something in order to do so.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Metrion » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:56 pm

Arckas wrote:Can I redirect mafia/serial killer kills or just natural abilities?


You can redirect the Mafia kill.

Serial Killer is basically immune to just about everything but Samus and Robin. Their kills are still stopped/effected by Mario, Wander and Link.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Nellyfox » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:56 pm

Arckas wrote:We have the guaranteed chance for one player to be executioner and jester. Remember this, because I'm certain they'll try something in order to do so.

It's either or.
One or the other.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:57 pm

Nellyfox wrote:
Arckas wrote:We have the guaranteed chance for one player to be executioner and jester. Remember this, because I'm certain they'll try something in order to do so.

It's either or.
One or the other.

Sorry, meant for an 'or' instead of 'and'.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby leyva45 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:57 pm

Throw the mindset you have out the window. Mafia can do anything they want. They're unpredictable, they can do things that the town won't expect. The mindset you have isn't going to work.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Nellyfox » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:59 pm

leyva45 wrote:Throw the mindset you have out the window. Mafia can do anything they want. They're unpredictable, they can do things that the town won't expect. The mindset you have isn't going to work.

Excuse me ?
Mafia can do anything they want. Therefore, they can do exactly what I was in the mindset of.
Which seems to be something town won't expect, especially if YOU'RE town and they do exactly what I predicted.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby RockFire » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:00 pm

Right, the NEs do make this a little bit harder. So we should look out for obvious tunneling and someone trying to hard to be noticed and seen as scum.

And in that case, should Cow RB however he thinks is Mafia based on his own reads at least, if he is Town. Although even if he is Mafia, RBing the Protectives would obviously out him as scum, therefore I think it's best that he chooses however he wishs, within reason.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Knockoff » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:00 pm

I don't think mafia would have someone that has a good chance to be roleblocked carry out a kill.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby leyva45 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:01 pm

Knockoff wrote:I don't think mafia would have someone that has a good chance to be roleblocked carry out a kill.

Exactly what I think.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby SirCakez » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:02 pm

If you are roleblocked, will you know if it was Ryu or Samus?
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Nellyfox » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:03 pm

Anything is possible. Might as well lay out all the options possible.
So sorry for trying to accomplish that.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Metrion » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:03 pm

SirCakez wrote:If you are roleblocked, will you know if it was Ryu or Samus?



They'll appear the same.
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Re: SFM6 | Virtual Small Town | Day 1 (Choose Your Champion)

Postby Arckas » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:08 pm

We should probably let Cow himself choose who to role block.

He can't possibly role block serial killer.
If we tell him a target, it will be be little more then a random guess. If by chance the person we do assign is mafia, mafia will be prepared.

Its best we do this by surprise, if anything.
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