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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iEsdeath » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:00 pm

Yeah but if Im reading the intro correctly, the Vendor can be roleblocked. So, I dont know if revealing as Vendor would do any good except confirming. I mean, if they were to reveal, would the Consort really waste their time roleblocking the Vendor?
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby direaxe » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:08 pm

iEsdeath wrote:Yeah but if Im reading the intro correctly, the Vendor can be roleblocked. So, I dont know if revealing as Vendor would do any good except confirming. I mean, if they were to reveal, would the Consort really waste their time roleblocking the Vendor?


I dont think he consort would waste his time on the vendor, but if he did then we would have no role blocks that would effect the game. Making it easier on the Invest (as well as the robber). A lot of these decisions are double edged swords that we have to decide if its worth it
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iEsdeath » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:21 pm

direaxe wrote:
iEsdeath wrote:I dont think he consort would waste his time on the vendor, but if he did then we would have no role blocks that would effect the game. Making it easier on the Invest (as well as the robber). A lot of these decisions are double edged swords that we have to decide if its worth it


I agree on this. Any decisions we make in the day can harm us, whether someone reveals a role or gives info...
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby TheNinja476 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:15 pm

Vendor, don't confirm. If you confirm, Diversion will just RB you every night.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iggyvolz » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:39 pm

TheNinja476 wrote:Vendor, don't confirm. If you confirm, Diversion will just RB you every night.

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I guess I can't argue with that. If we can find the Robber, we can block them every night.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby Invenio » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:01 pm

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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby Resare » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:20 pm

Hmm, I don't know if I should vote or not. I honestly don't feel like the evidence against anyone is insurmountable quite yet.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby TheNinja476 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:21 pm

It's more safe for vendor to RB without been known, I'm almost certain that if Robber is RB'ed Diversion will claim RB'ed. So at that point Vendor will have to confirm, its two birds with one stone. We lynch robber, and then whoever claimed RB'ed will be the Diversion. Town has a counter plan for everything :P
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iEsdeath » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:24 pm

Hooray for Ninja for coming up with a plan...wait did you come up with that? >_>
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iggyvolz » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:27 pm

TheNinja476 wrote:It's more safe for vendor to RB without been known, I'm almost certain that if Robber is RB'ed Diversion will claim RB'ed. So at that point Vendor will have to confirm, its two birds with one stone. We lynch robber, and then whoever claimed RB'ed will be the Diversion. Town has a counter plan for everything :P

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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby Swordsworth » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:54 pm

They can through PMs.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iEsdeath » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:57 pm

So, you're saying any potential whispers during day could be potential Robber and Diversion?
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby Swordsworth » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:58 pm

Also, sorry for double post, but they could be coming up with cover stories right now. We face a double-pronged problem: The mafia cannot kill to give us leads, we lose instantly if the right person is targeted, and the mafia can communicate at all times, allowing them to change their strategy for claiming and scuminess very quickly. The day will end in 3(?) hours, so if we lynch, we'll have to do it fast. In addition, random lynching will be certain death without cause. One thing I must say to the Investigator, please do NOT out yourself unless you have found the robber. And if someone else claims invest, cc. Scum have a decided advantage right now, and we need to cut it back.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby Swordsworth » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:59 pm

There are no whispers, iEs. They can communicate secretly at all times.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iggyvolz » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:01 pm

25 hours actually. An hour from now, plus a day.

And they shouldn't be able to communicate through PM's unless I missed it somewhere...
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iggyvolz » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:02 pm

Invenio wrote:5) There will be no whispers this game. Robbers will be able to communicate with each other via PM at any time.

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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby Swordsworth » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:02 pm

Invenio wrote:[color=#8000BF]
[center]5) There will be no whispers this game. Robbers will be able to communicate with each other via PM at any time.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby TheNinja476 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:03 pm

Resare seems suspicious to me, he seems like a white noiser and just cares about a no lynch as if not trying to contribute to the town. Resare, have you pay any other forum mafias? If not, then my suspicions on you are irrelevant. But again Jester is in play...
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby Swordsworth » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:03 pm

That exact-same post time though. But yes, the mafia will be constantly one step ahead unless we narrow the gap.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iggyvolz » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:05 pm

TheNinja476 wrote:Resare, have you pay any other forum mafias?

Judging by his posts, no.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby TheNinja476 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:15 pm

The problem with lynching is that if we lynch a town member, that is one less target mafia has to visit.
Lets gather all our suspicions, to come up with an overall lynching target. Everyone please state your main suspect and why.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iEsdeath » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:38 pm

I don't really have a 'main suspect' yet. (As this being my second FM) I have not really grown any suspicions towards who is scum and who isn't scum.
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iEsdeath » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:00 pm

((Also sorry for double-post, but Im going to go to sleep for the night. Night guys.))
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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby iggyvolz » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:01 pm

TheNinja476 wrote:Everyone please state your main suspect and why.
I still don't fully trust Resare....


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Re: TFM5: Day 2: Scale the Wall [Ends 4/16 10:00pm UTC-6]

Postby Swordsworth » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:10 pm

*cough*

I don't want to be that guy, Ninja....

but what do you say? And please use your own guidelines xD
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