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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Metrion » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:15 am

Good game everyone, we managed to pull through!

Props to Knockoff for killing 2 Mafia and the Phantom and Chief here for rallying us. Obi, I was so sure you were the Medium, then I thought you were the Vigilante, the imagine my suprise when you flip Investigator.

My scum reads were okay, LoF I mis-judged (he was pretty scummy :/) and gobble as well. I just found it so wierd that you held such a strong stance on multiple Doctors.

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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby nighthawk101 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:27 am

Well, I played terribly.

This isn't just "acted vaguely scummy," this is "made easily avoidable mistakes." I feel that my slip ups played a large part in Town's victory due to my confirmation as Mafia and discovering who else was Mafia/scum.

My first mistake: Missing Rick's N3 claimed visits. I read through his whispers, and managed to completely miss that the first time around. I went looking again when Neasans asked about Rick's "4 and 3" (still not sure what that is, btw), and noticed it and concluded that it was a list to refer to later, especially due to Neasan's previous whisper instructing Rick to tell her who was visited as cryptically as possible. Not knowing that Rick had claimed something different, I went through the Mafia chat to find those who were visited, leading to my second mistake.

Missing the visited claims was bad, but I hope I could have recovered if I hadn't made another mistake: not lying. It didn't even occur to me to lie when Neasans asked for who was visited. My main concern was just making the list in order to not be called out as scum. To gain trust, I had to make a list that couldn't be disputed, and the easiest way to do that was to be truthful. That sure bit me in the ass when I learned that Rick had lied. In the same vein, I didn't lie about who Rick and I had tapped, including not tapping Neasans.

Why did I not tap Neasans? Because I didn't know how my role worked. This is the mistake that I'm most disappointed about. I get angry at newbies on Ranked not knowing how to operate their role, especially if it is essential. Ironically, that's what happened to me. I believed that the Agent role was "Tap someone at night. You'll see who they visit and all whispers they send in the first 24 hours of a day." Of course, that's not accurate. Now for something even more egregious: I had doubts as to my memory of the role, and didn't check if it was correct. Well, I did, but only when it was too late to tap. Similarly, I wasn't sure how Spy operated in FM but sent my Agent tapped list anyway (I was pretty much confirmed scum at that point though).

On me being confirmed scum: I also feel that it was a mistake to reveal myself as scum. I was panicking, and there was no argument that could get me back into Town's good graces. Either Rick had lied to Neasans, or I had. In each scenario, I would be scum. Seeing no point, I revealed that I was scum. However, that was a bad decision. In revealing myself instead of arguing, I gave Town an entire day to connect the dots and find all the scum. And they could.

My lies (or rather, lack thereof) revealed the Mafia. The tapped list confirmed several townies, and the discrepancies between my list and Rick's revealed more. If I had lied, even if it wasn't Rick's lie, scum could still have a chance.

I hate how I played this game. I'd like to apologize to Rick for drastically fumbling his lines of play, and to my Mafia buddies for practically outing you.
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby ObiWan » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:49 am

Neasans wrote:Gobble pls you were just scummy. At least you were the Medium. And LoF did give a code, it was "R.I.P. Hip the Sheriff" or something. LoF pls. .-.

By the way, Obi, what gave my Jailorness away? D:


I didn't know 100% you were the Jailor. I even said it to Nelly/Vale in a message/rant (Not sure which day/night it was). At first your picking out random sentences had me thinking you were scum trying to look like you were participating. But the more I thought and read - it seemed like you were a power role that didn't want to be fully in the lime light. You'd participate just enough to not be on the Mafia's radar. Then you whispered to kill - and then basically told me if you died that K1ll was evil. That's what confirmed it more for me.
If you weren't the Jailor - my second guess would be Knockoff. I never thought arc was the Jailor.
This was not the scumslip you were looking for.


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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Gobln » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:30 am

Gossie wrote:Good game, too bad I got shot by Gobln :(

I actually changed my stalk target that night, from, I think Obiwan to Gobln. I regret that decision..

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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Neasans » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:40 am

I genuinely have no idea what I was doing with my life for the first three days or so. I legitimately wasn't thinking or planning in any way, aside from commenting every now and then and giggling whenever someone got a scum read on me.

Obi = Invest = Plot twist. I thought you were the Veteran, actually. O.O You did clear up a lot of things, though, so good thing you were an Investigator.

Suddenly I realize all the times I claimed to scum and lol I'm dumb.

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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Nellyfox » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:42 am

No clue if we have the characters for that title but that'd be awesome.
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby dota2reporter » Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:49 am

As always, don`t trust Rick.
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby VonAntarctic » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:06 am

Gobble, i am proud of you.

My first replacement did better job than i would probably do. Sadly i just did not have time.
Much thanks for my also speaking-to-dead replacement.
R.I.P 2015

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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Waffleme3 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:28 am

I thought that neasans was lawyer and not jailor for a whil
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby ObiWan » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:59 am

"I tapped Obi -Rick 2015"

Was wondering why I felt violated that day
This was not the scumslip you were looking for.


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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Neasans » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:14 pm

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Agents are mean. :cry:


Uh, now that the game is over, is it okay to quote defenses
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Akame » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:22 pm

Neasans wrote:...
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Agents are mean. :cry:


Uh, now that the game is over, is it okay to quote defenses

I almost got you killed but the witch let me down.
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby ObiWan » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:28 pm

Neasans wrote:...
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Agents are mean. :cry:


Uh, now that the game is over, is it okay to quote defenses


I would think it would be fine
This was not the scumslip you were looking for.


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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Loominaty » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:36 pm

10/10 Master would serve again

Phantom is really cool, next time I need to die earlier tho
Your deathnote made me laugh Knock :lol:

So on top of that Sheriff, Obi checked me night one aswell, thats why he kept talking about me beeing Jester.
I thought he read me, since he hosted alot of games I played. And I was so sure that Obi was a citizen.

Yeah that made my job getting lynched alot tougher. When Arc "revealed" my whisper, I was kind of panicking, since I thought the Vig might shoot me, with the Witch controlling me, so I had to throw over my whole gameplan.
@Arc: For what do you took me through Day 2 and 3 ;)?

I figured most alignements, besides I really thought Metrion was some sort of scum (I thought Witch), instead he was that Doc (GJ).. oops
Interesting Jailor tactics tho.

Mafia sadly played kinda poorly. Most of them were called out really fast. I actually softclaimed to Nellybot on Day 3, but they haven't mentioned it in the nightchat.

@Nighthawk: Don't be so hard with yourself, Agent is probably the toughest role to replace, and on top of that, Rick already made some slips, where he couldn't have talked himself out that easily. Next game, just take your time to read through everything, even if people are questioning you, go into hidden mode and read everything until you feel comfortable.
I don't like how the replacments were pressured so hard, but how Brain's replacement was tricked was definetly not cool.

Good job @Nelly(and Vale), you put alot of effort in your game and that mod rant analysis is awesome
Overall I really enjoyed the game.

Well played people.

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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Arcthurus » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:48 pm

Loominaty wrote:@Arc: For what do you took me through Day 2 and 3 ;)?


I thought you was arso. Didn't occur to me a phantom could want a jester lynched. :?


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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby MarcoTheRed » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:56 pm

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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Knockoff » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:21 pm

Yeah, the one thing I regret this game is with Bumble. That was really bad.

I thought that Obi was Med for a bit as well, but I remembered that he requested a Lookout night one, and I don't think a Medium would do that. So I was just kind of confused on what he was for most of the game.
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Neasans » Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:48 pm

waffleme3 wrote:I thought that neasans was lawyer and not jailor for a whil



...why?

Also, why investigate me in the first place? ;_;

...just look at my sig.

Loominaty wrote:Interesting Jailor tactics tho.



How so? O: 

I love how my being tapped (so r00d) meant absolutely nothing in the end because Mafia got killed anyway.

I was going to quote the defenses, but I don't know if they'd be okay with it, so.
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby ValeforRaine » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:02 pm

Neasans wrote:I was going to quote the defenses, but I don't know if they'd be okay with it, so.

Game's over. Quote away.
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby IAmAMunchlax » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:25 pm

Santa07 wrote:
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IAmAMunchlax wrote:Also, Santa when you join future games and you're evil, please participate more, since it's getting kinda obvious now >_>

b-but one day i will get jester and you'll lynch me day 1!

okay, 2

But then wouldn't that be considered game-throwing until you finally roll a Jester?
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Waffleme3 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:26 pm

Neasans wrote:
waffleme3 wrote:I thought that neasans was lawyer and not jailor for a whil



...why?

Also, why investigate me in the first place? ;_;

...just look at my sig.

Loominaty wrote:Interesting Jailor tactics tho.



How so? O: 

I love how my being tapped (so r00d) meant absolutely nothing in the end because Mafia got killed anyway.

I was going to quote the defenses, but I don't know if they'd be okay with it, so.

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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby leyva45 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:25 pm

Rick would tap that Obi

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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Neasans » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:13 pm

Apparently, people thought I was Vig. ;_;

You said it was okay. Reading over these things, I suddenly feel dumb for not realizing the Mafianess earlier. <,,<

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Ayanhart wrote:Wow... this is a surprise! :shock:
This is actually the first time I've been jailed, kinda nerve-wracking!

Well, I guess you wanna know my role? I'm a Bodyguard. I was undecided between guarding one of the veteren players (Rick, Obi, M4x, etc.) one of the newbies who look really promising (I don't know if you've seen either of Shroom or Rock's games - I just know I'm gonna typo Rick/Rock at some point - but they're both pretty damn good) or just chickening out and vesting myself - dying N1 again was not a pretty prospect. I tend to just have vague ideas when the night starts, then make my mind up later on. I guess I don't need to make that decision anymore... :? :lol:

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Um... I don't really know what else to say, but uhhh... good luck!


I actually suspected Ayan of being Stalker at one point because A) paranoia, okay? and B) ..."Good luck!"?!?!

Rickdaily12 wrote:Arc is that you? D: If it is, I'm legit terrified for us right now. Not sure why Scraf had to out you if he wanted Scum to hurt you (if anything, Town probably would have tried shoot you or something) but if that's you- gdi.

Hope you jail me b/c you trust me, not because "I'm just off". I'm Spy.

Last night, Mafia visited four; arcthurus, M4xwell, Salense, and ShroomerD. Nothing obvious, far as I can tell. It looks Shroomer was attacked, but no one else reported anything harmful, OR, Shroomer was blocked; some1 is lying about immunity. More likely, Shroomer got Mafioso. (It's why I believed Doc heal.)

I also bugged Obi; he spends most of his time whi's Met about not trusting me. I ask Met what to do; he warns me about the same- ObiWan seemed too p.noid of me (but Town.) Then Obi whi's Knockoff about countering Stalker with Lookout; finally tells Met about how he worries LoF is scum and if another RC is made.

Hope this helps. If that's you, Arc, I've got no solid leads as of now. <_<


"I also bugged Obi" = "I tapped Obi" paraphrased. Pls. The message is the same. Also... I overlooked so many things. .-.

LordofFail wrote:Sup Jailor.

I am the Marshal.

My plan is to look scummy so that scum dont bother to attack me (why attack someone who is acting scummy)?

Anyways I doubt brain is BG unless hes a Random Town.

If you want to let me know who you are so I can protect you, put "RIP Hip the Sheriff" at the start of you first post on Day 4.

If you choose not to its 100% okay.

Just please dont execute me it would be a mistake and you would lose all ur executions :(


Gossie why.

Swordsworth wrote:My defense:

I urge you to reconsider one more time. That's all I ask. Sure, you may certainly be justified in killing me, but you lose an ally.

...

I had to try. But I suppose I'm dead.

GG and all.


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YOU GUYS WERE THE BEST PRISONERS A JAILOR COULD EVER JAIL. <3

Also, Night's "pls no am inno" in the thread was beautiful.


...I really should've reacted to some of those things sooner. ;_;
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby Knockoff » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:20 pm

Ayanhart wrote:Wow... this is a surprise! :shock:
This is actually the first time I've been jailed, kinda nerve-wracking!

Well, I guess you wanna know my role? I'm a Bodyguard. I was undecided between guarding one of the veteren players (Rick, Obi, M4x, etc.) one of the newbies who look really promising (I don't know if you've seen either of Shroom or Rock's games - I just know I'm gonna typo Rick/Rock at some point - but they're both pretty damn good) or just chickening out and vesting myself - dying N1 again was not a pretty prospect. I tend to just have vague ideas when the night starts, then make my mind up later on. I guess I don't need to make that decision anymore... :? :lol:

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Um... I don't really know what else to say, but uhhh... good luck!


They found it nerve wracking to be jailed? They probably shouldn't have said it, since most townies aren't going to be scared of talking to conf town.
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Re: CFM 5 | Switzerland | Game Over: Five factions win!

Postby RockFire » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:23 pm

Neasans, even if you didn't realize that Rick and Ayan were scum when you jailed them, you did one hell of a good job leading the Town. :D

I'm just sad that I was the unfortunate Stalker victim, although, I guess that made it easier to find scum in the long run since they couldn't hide behind Cit claims.

I'm also kind of glad Ayan complimented my plan even if they were evil and we're scrambling for a defense. I guess I planned my role well enough since I took one for the team.

I just wish I could roll something other than Cit or some variant of it (Coach in CFM 3 was basically an unlynchable Cit.) since I'd like to have a night ability as Town.

RNG just seems to hate me so it never gives me a night ability as Town... :lol:
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