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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | meow meow meow meow

Postby CheezePie » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:35 am

mist gonna come here like what the fuck happened
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | meow meow meow meow

Postby UzayAltay » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:44 am

CheezePie wrote:mist gonna come here like what the fuck happened

It applies for everyone.
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | meow meow meow meow

Postby ejjinami » Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:44 am

UzayAltay wrote:/poke ejji :MeSmart:


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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | meow meow meow meow

Postby ejjinami » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:00 am

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Chemist1422 wrote:/meow cheeze
kosmo16 wrote:/meow Cheeze
UzayAltay wrote:/meow Cheeze
/meow kosmo
CheezePie wrote:/meow cheeze
/meow cheeze back
/meow kosmo


CheezePie and CheezePie kosmo16 have decided to meow each other.
Cheeze will now be eaten.



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You win when you reach parity with the mafia.
You lose when both mafia are eliminated.

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You win when both mafia are eliminated.
You lose when you reach parity with the town.


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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:01 am

CheezePie wrote:not even uzay's fault probably tbh

kosmo16 wrote:I am so sorry :(

lmaoooo
it be ok
i'm done with fm, it's what i do every time

insert "well... technically right, but actually wrong".meme

No Cheeze, you played absolutely insane and out of your mind this game, don't blame yourself for this at all. This was Uzay's fault 100%, and ejj disagrees, but I would go as far as to call him basically throwing for what he just did.

First of all, you made it very clear from the beginning how you were favoring Mist out of the three of you guys. Mafia's reaction would be to panic and desperately try to change your mind. So if Uzay's really looking at kosmo and thinking she's Town, ignoring the constant "pick me" posts that crossed off as scummy begging was just bad.

You had the right reaction from the start:

CheezePie wrote:because you seem... desperate? rn
do you TR mist or not after all


You were the one paying attention to Kosmo, Uzay was not.

Kosmo literally even already proved that Mist was Town before you were confirmed Town yourself:

kosmo16 wrote:I think Hyena could try to let Sam change his trust vote to Mist so they leave the Town together, letting his buddy leave become super confirmed as well. Because what kind of Mafia don't trust back to town. That's why I think Mist is very unlikely to be Mafia. However her posts right after I joined were really scummy.


^ kosmo bringing this up was actually really bad for her to do. It pointed out how Hyena stole the only person hardcore TRing Mafia!Chemist, instead of trying to bait Sam into sending her a trust request anyway, then leaving with either Phone or myself. The fact that Hyena took Sam the instant he was allowed to indicated that his plan was really either to take myself or Phone the moment we reciprocated trust with him, and when we didn't, he looked to cut his losses ASAP. Mafia!Hyena would never have left Mafia!Chemist in the dust like this.

In reality, the reason he was reluctant to take me, was because I was the only one who said anything positive about hereisme in the first place. So Kosmo literally proved Mist was town after this. You didn't need convincing, at least, Cheeze, but Uzay apparently was asleep at the wheel.

You played very well, Cheeze, don't let anyone, even yourself, tell you otherwise :)

This was absolutely on Uzay, who didn't need to force your hand, period, at all, did it anyway, and wasn't even paying attention on his Town read. kosmo was absolutely scummier than Mist, this just wasn't necessary ever.
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby ejjinami » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:04 am

The cats have lost!

:c ats

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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | meow meow meow meow

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:04 am

CheezePie wrote:mist gonna come here like what the fuck happened

got that right
mist ~ she/her

i guess this is goodbye?
(still here for danganronpa i guess)


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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:04 am

whoops.

Well, enjoy your broken game end posts, ejj :')

(this is why I make "res" posts, my bad xD)
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:06 am

also literally everything happened while i was asleep

so there wasnt really much i could do about that
mist ~ she/her

i guess this is goodbye?
(still here for danganronpa i guess)


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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby UzayAltay » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:07 am

@Rick my mistake wasn't misreading. My mistake was forcing Cheeze's hand.
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:08 am

UzayAltay wrote:@Rick my mistake wasn't misreading. My mistake was forcing Cheeze's hand.

If you were paying attention to kosmo at all, you could have forced Cheeze's hand on Mist.

Still a bad move, it just wouldn't have been losing. You were ignoring how SAI kosmo's posting had gotten after Cheeze was conf Town, and you also missed her proving Mist was Town. =/
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:09 am

Lesson to be learned here:

If you have a 66% chance of winning, and you take an action that cuts that down to a coin flip for really no reason, it's best to just sit and watch, folks.
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby UzayAltay » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:11 am

Rickdaily12 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:@Rick my mistake wasn't misreading. My mistake was forcing Cheeze's hand.

If you were paying attention to kosmo at all, you could have forced Cheeze's hand on Mist.

Still a bad move, it just wouldn't have been losing. You were ignoring how SAI kosmo's posting had gotten after Cheeze was conf Town, and you also missed her proving Mist was Town. =/

Confbias.
Like it is hard to see it as when in-game. It can be seen as "I want to really SR Mist due to their posts at last day but their early game points otherwise."
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Chemist1422 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:11 am

also i literally had kosmo's slot as my top scum for like, 90% of the game

i feel like that should have been taken into consideration as well
mist ~ she/her

i guess this is goodbye?
(still here for danganronpa i guess)


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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:13 am

UzayAltay wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:@Rick my mistake wasn't misreading. My mistake was forcing Cheeze's hand.

If you were paying attention to kosmo at all, you could have forced Cheeze's hand on Mist.

Still a bad move, it just wouldn't have been losing. You were ignoring how SAI kosmo's posting had gotten after Cheeze was conf Town, and you also missed her proving Mist was Town. =/

Confbias.
Like it is hard to see it as when in-game. It can be seen as "I want to really SR Mist due to their posts at last day but their early game points otherwise."

you also did not assist me at all in theorycrafting things scum would do, or helping me in prove this game that town were town at all
which, fine, no one else did, but then literally the only helpful TAI thing you did was that whole game thing, so <_<


Chemist1422 wrote:also i literally had kosmo's slot as my top scum for like, 90% of the game

i feel like that should have been taken into consideration as well

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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby UzayAltay » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:19 am

Rickdaily12 wrote:Lesson to be learned here:

If you have a 66% chance of winning, and you take an action that cuts that down to a coin flip for really no reason, it's best to just sit and watch, folks.

I disagree it bringed game to 50-50. It was still 66%, but Cheeze had -unknown amount of time until it is over.

I also tried to arrange it to a time when Cheeze is obviously here, and kosmo isn't. It worked in this part. You all have right to say I shouldn't do that because it literally forces Cheeze a lot which was a bad thing, but I disagree that it brings it 50-50.
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby ejjinami » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:20 am

Rickdaily12 wrote:
CheezePie wrote:not even uzay's fault probably tbh

kosmo16 wrote:I am so sorry :(

lmaoooo
it be ok
i'm done with fm, it's what i do every time

insert "well... technically right, but actually wrong".meme

No Cheeze, you played absolutely insane and out of your mind this game, don't blame yourself for this at all.

100% agree here.
You might have made the wrong decision this time but IT’S OK. Compared to your read accuracy when you joined, you have already improved a lot.

There’s no need to blame yourself for your mistakes, just try to figure out what you did wrong and learn from them. If you keep it up as you have till now, I really wouldn’t be surprised if you became a top-tier player sooner or later.
Even compared to MU or MS’s standards, there really aren’t that many people who actively try to change themselves
don’t be discouraged, you’re doing great xD

and watching you suffer is fun but hush
I don’t enjoy playing with you at all. Nah. it’s awful.
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby ejjinami » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:23 am

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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby UzayAltay » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:25 am

Yeah given that ejji made a rant about Cheeze now we expect them to do same about me as well.
Actually, although I wanted to win the game, I am unsure how much I would affected if everyone all flame me in order. I already know that I shouldn't force Cheeze right that but I... did it? I think I deserved to be flamed for it as well thoughnot sure on its effect on me.
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby ejjinami » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:32 am

kosmo16 on the maf chat wrote: I actually hope Cheeze choose Chemist or Uzay. I don't want him to blame himself for losing.
I will probably feel terrible if I win, but I can't throw.

btw, 100% agree here

...when you’re innocent enough betraying you would hurt

congrats
cheeze is the 2nd person I know to have reached that status xD
UzayAltay wrote:Yeah given that ejji made a rant about Cheeze now we expect them to do same about me as well.
Actually, although I wanted to win the game, I am unsure how much I would affected if everyone all flame me in order. I already know that I shouldn't force Cheeze right that but I... did it? I think I deserved to be flamed for it as well thoughnot sure on its effect on me.

I mean, honestly I understand your intentions... your reads were wrong but it’s still just a part of FM
you had your own reads, decided to trust them over cheeze and voted wrongly in LyLo... and that’s it.

If anything, I strongly disliked Sam /trusting hyena despite them being his biggest scum-read
THAT was close to throwing
but eh, that’s it for my 5 cents. I don’t think I have anything else to say about that


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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Ezradekezra » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:57 am

What did we learn about pressuring people into making bad decisions?
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Rickdaily12 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:03 am

Ezradekezra wrote:What did we learn about pressuring people into making bad decisions?

That a Mafia member might get two Town members who SR-ed each other to leave together, while also taking a Town member inside of everyone's Mafia POE brackets? :mrgreen:

...Oh, you meant that -other- time. :oops:
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Ezradekezra » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:08 am

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:What did we learn about pressuring people into making bad decisions?

That a Mafia member might get two Town members who SR-ed each other to leave together, while also taking a Town member inside of everyone's Mafia POE brackets? :mrgreen:

...Oh, you meant that -other- time. :oops:

I meant both times, seeing how it's how both Mafia members exited the game
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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby ejjinami » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:12 am

A small mod rant.
I didn’t mention some players (hyena, phone, sam) because I either don’t have much to say or said most of it on the dead chat already.
Keep in mind that what I write in here are only my opinions
Feel free to ignore them if you dislike them or just feel that I’m wrong

gg!

Mist- Spoiler: honestly... The only thing your play style lacks rn is charisma.
Cutting out on post length might have decreased the time needed to play but on the other hand, I’m pretty sure it’s making it harder for other players to read you... You might have kinda suffered a bit here because of it.


Ezra- Spoiler: you made your self obvtown early on. Great job! I have nothing more to say

cheeze- Spoiler: Tbh I feel that even if I wrote my genuine opinion about your playstyle, you wouldn’t want to accept it anyway xD
Having you in the game was great, I don’t regret giving you the slot at all.
The sole fact that you got trusted already means something

don’t give up god dammit xD
You’re playing way better than you think you are


Rick- Spoiler: welp..... I already said most of the things I wanted to say on the dead chat... if I were to add one more comment, it would probably be that you’re quite literally like a martyr xD

Seeing you interact with the current player base over the course of a few different games, I’m getting more and more confident that you have a positive impact on the players. People who care this much and are willing to spend time on playing give a GREAT example to those who are still learning how to play... This is most definitely something the forum lacks rn

The downside to that is that... well... you suffer. Quite obviously... It’s hard to find people so dedicated to stuff you enjoy talking about as you rn...
I’d absolutely love to have you in games later on
as a unquestionable egoistical butt, I’d probably want to keep you here for as long as possible... but eh... well
lemme just give you a biiiig /pat
you deserve it


Dolphina- Spoiler: I’m at a loss of words... The way you played here is simply incomparable to how I’ve seen you play before. You did amazing, on which everyone will likely agree with me as you got trusted D1. Keep it up!!!

Uzay- Spoiler: /pat

Kosmo- Spoiler: You probably know what you did well and what not so lemme just say one thing
The only thing that should probably be said is that cheeze as a player, is very paranoid. He undervalues himself a lot and from what I’ve seen, might tend to think of other players as of more dangerous than they actually are. This makes him be very sensitive to pocket attempts and any positive mentions of him
The correct choice of action at the very end, would have probably been not to be nice or suck up to him, but to have some sort of negative reaction to him or people trusting him (lower his wariness and possibly throw a bit more suspicions on other players)... Honestly, even mild insults could work better than nice/friendly trust jokes

but yeah... that’s it for me
on the bigger scale, it’s not like this mattered anyway


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Re: VFM79 | Trust Fall | HISS

Postby Phone0Ix » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:33 am

gg
Call me Phone Ig

Or Silver because of my old discord name. Or Mikan because of my new discord name. Or Julian as that's my actual name
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