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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 2

Postby Fenraiser » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:32 am

Hm...I think I have to relook at Kosmo's logic again. Saying I'm mafia after my hammer (admitting defeat) but claiming general ambivalence to Royee/Watch despite having their vote on someone already is pretty weird. Not sure I'm understanding it correctly.

Ejji is towncleared by virtue of Komaru.

POE would be more or less the same with {Uzay/Ezra}. If watch tried the bussing play with Royee, we're kind of already fucked lol.

I think I'm sticking with Uzay today due to how they handled Ezra D1 and how they handled Royee EOD2.
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 2

Postby UzayAltay » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:36 am

Fenraiser wrote:Hm...I think I have to relook at Kosmo's logic again. Saying I'm mafia after my hammer (admitting defeat) but claiming general ambivalence to Royee/Watch despite having their vote on someone already is pretty weird. Not sure I'm understanding it correctly.

Ejji is towncleared by virtue of Komaru.

POE would be more or less the same with {Uzay/Ezra}. If watch tried the bussing play with Royee, we're kind of already fucked lol.

I think I'm sticking with Uzay today due to how they handled Ezra D1 and how they handled Royee EOD2.

Neither was bad.
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:38 am

Fenraiser wrote:Royee's started out as somewhat apathetic but is slowly rolling the ball.

Komaru is kind taking this really seriously as well like too seriously.

Watch is doing what I expect from a shady regardless of alignment.

Kosmo looking a bit better.

Kinda confused will come back after rereading the mechanics again.

fencesitting. At that moment royee was already acting “salty” / seemed to want to refuse to contribute on purpose (probably because of him trying to focus on faking his tone and failing), so at that moment it was already visible that there might be something wrong with him.
Yes fen chose to describe it as “yeah, he’s getting better”.

-indication that he’s more ok with town-reading royee than watchme.
-indication that he’s not confident enough to actually push anyone (prior to that his posts were filled with game-related text, yet factually empty as well)

Later on, despite mentioning watch/royee, he seemed to refrain from saying any sort of opinion on them. He formed serious reads on some of the “townies”.

Considering how cautious and fencesitty he seemed prior to that and how a lot of players were like: “eh, I don’t care let’s just hammer royee”, I’m seriously not buying the random hammer.
Refraining on getting ANY sort of reads on watch/royee while playing seriously and then suddenly deciding that, ah, ok you’re scum?
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if that had an agenda behind it


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby ejjinami » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:40 am

.......it seems that the beginning of my read on fen got deleted?????

I should have double checked it before posting

welp. w/e
the part at the beginning was pretty much fluff anyway


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:44 am

kosmo you won so many scum games recently that I am literally being paranoid of you at this point.
Like is it possible for him to say Royee to bus them and do nothing else Day 1 and bus them Day 2?
I think their tone was very good at Day 1 but I become paranoid due to how they played Day 2?
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:49 am

Actually you know what? I would be probably happy with losing like that so skip this.
skip ejji? Maybe... Actually maybe later.
I am curious what Fen and Ezra would say. Actually we already heard from Fen but I wanna hear Ezra too.
46-46 Spoiler: Town Games(27-32)

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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 1

Postby ejjinami » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:50 am

UzayAltay wrote:Hot Take: kosmo's tone is only off if royee is traitor, kosmo is goon, watchme is mafia and we are already screwed.

“who cares about getting reads, let’s lynch both!”
seems like an innocent opinion
(indicates that uzay didn’t feel pressured to defend or push anyone yet was fine with both getting lynched.)
(this is not a strong argument imo btw)

later on he didn’t push anyone either but seemed interested in the game state Spoiler:
UzayAltay wrote:Okay so how I think we should play this is as following: Regardless of what mafia do we have clear majority at 6-group.
Therefore, I think Royee/watchme should act like as a spectator/overseer /however you call this and avoid voting directly anyone, when everyone scumhunts in 6-group.

thinking on his own without doing the “objectively townie” stuff, he should normally expect people to town-read him for
UzayAltay wrote:/vote mmb

I afraid from any last minute trick on me so better to be safe.

meh reasoning
UzayAltay wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:No discussion in this game. I will go with this as well.
/vote Royee

Do you have a reason?
I also thought at least Royee is scum there but I guess my reason is different from you so want to hear out yours.
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kosmo16 wrote:And Uzay is not scum with watchme.

Why though? I think Royee is scum?

By the way, I am not scumreading Royer or watchme but I think Royee is scum.

Possible attempts to distance from royee while still attempting to stall for time / try to change something.

TLDR:
If I were to bet, I’d bet on fenraiser. There’s absolutely nothing I town-read in his posts while Uzay did have “some” sort of tonal town-tells.
They’re not strong but they do exist.


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby ejjinami » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:51 am

UzayAltay wrote:Actually you know what? I would be probably happy with losing like that so skip this.
skip ejji?

wdym by skip?


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:52 am

skip from PoE

And hot take came because somebody suggested kosmo's tone is off
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby ejjinami » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:55 am

UzayAltay wrote:skip from PoE

And hot take came because somebody suggested kosmo's tone is off

I’d be amazed if there’s anyone on this player list who’s able to read kosmo based on tone

I’m obviously not
you’re the only person who’d I give any chances but you claim not to be
and the rest is probably more likely to be close to RNG than accurate reads based on that
(I apologize if I’m wrong tho. If so, I’d like to hear more about it
it doesn’t hurt to double check it xD)


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:00 am

ejjinami wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:No discussion in this game. I will go with this as well.
/vote Royee

Do you have a reason?
I also thought at least Royee is scum there but I guess my reason is different from you so want to hear out yours.
UzayAltay wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:And Uzay is not scum with watchme.

Why though? I think Royee is scum?

By the way, I am not scumreading Royer or watchme but I think Royee is scum.

Possible attempts to distance from royee while still attempting to stall for time / try to change something.



Mainly because I wasn't scumreading Royee but I wasn't thinking there are two scums in 6-group unless it was exactly Ezra/Fen, which I seem as doubtful as like Ezra stayed as M-1 (M means from main wagon) at EoD for a good time while That two people would do nothing except (It is not TMI).

And it is possible to read kosmo based tone accurately, given that they didn't rand scum (lol).
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:02 am

UzayAltay wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:No discussion in this game. I will go with this as well.
/vote Royee

Do you have a reason?
I also thought at least Royee is scum there but I guess my reason is different from you so want to hear out yours.
UzayAltay wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:And Uzay is not scum with watchme.

Why though? I think Royee is scum?

By the way, I am not scumreading Royer or watchme but I think Royee is scum.

Possible attempts to distance from royee while still attempting to stall for time / try to change something.



Mainly because I wasn't scumreading Royee but I wasn't thinking there are two scums in 6-group unless it was exactly Ezra/Fen, which I seem as doubtful as like Ezra stayed as M-1 (M means from main wagon) at EoD for a good time while That two people would do nothing except saying "It is not TMI".

And it is possible to read kosmo based tone accurately, given that they didn't rand scum (lol).

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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby kosmo16 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:36 am

ejjinami wrote:
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watchme1 wrote:kosmo t unless they somehow managed to fake admitting defeat

Where did Kosmo fake-admit defeat?

kosmo town slipped lol

I have no idea how you’re reading it as giving up

even tho, I’d be hesitant to read her for stuff like that in general. Her previous actions should be AI enough


I wouldn't fake townslip (at least not in this game).
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby kosmo16 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:47 am

UzayAltay wrote:kosmo you won so many scum games recently that I am literally being paranoid of you at this point.
Like is it possible for him to say Royee to bus them and do nothing else Day 1 and bus them Day 2?
I think their tone was very good at Day 1 but I become paranoid due to how they played Day 2?


Well... I am lucky.
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:50 am

kosmo16 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:kosmo you won so many scum games recently that I am literally being paranoid of you at this point.
Like is it possible for him to say Royee to bus them and do nothing else Day 1 and bus them Day 2?
I think their tone was very good at Day 1 but I become paranoid due to how they played Day 2?


Well... I am lucky.

(Luck part is only about randing side)
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby kosmo16 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:55 am

UzayAltay wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:kosmo you won so many scum games recently that I am literally being paranoid of you at this point.
Like is it possible for him to say Royee to bus them and do nothing else Day 1 and bus them Day 2?
I think their tone was very good at Day 1 but I become paranoid due to how they played Day 2?


Well... I am lucky.

(Luck part is only about randing side)


I think you won more mafia games recently than me. I should be paranoid here.
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby ejjinami » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:55 am

UzayAltay wrote:And it is possible to read kosmo based tone accurately, given that they didn't rand scum (lol).

pfffft, yes
kosmo16 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Fenraiser wrote:
watchme1 wrote:kosmo t unless they somehow managed to fake admitting defeat

Where did Kosmo fake-admit defeat?

kosmo town slipped lol

I have no idea how you’re reading it as giving up

even tho, I’d be hesitant to read her for stuff like that in general. Her previous actions should be AI enough


I wouldn't fake townslip (at least not in this game).

no manipulation, please.
kosmo16 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:kosmo you won so many scum games recently that I am literally being paranoid of you at this point.
Like is it possible for him to say Royee to bus them and do nothing else Day 1 and bus them Day 2?
I think their tone was very good at Day 1 but I become paranoid due to how they played Day 2?


Well... I am lucky.

You surely believe in what you just said :) I believe that you believe in what you just said :) Yes.
I don’t think this forum has fallen that low to take that bait
No manipulation, please.


There is very likely only 1 scum left. Watchme is never getting lynched unless the last scum flips and the game doesn’t end so there’s no need to worry about that anyway.
I’d appreciate some feedback on my read on fenraiser. That’s probably the best stuff you can get with the game being inactive as it was.
if there’s a need for me to explain why phone was on the top of my town-reads before, give me a sign. Although their reads were incorrect, their mindset was not sth scum would ever think of faking.


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby UzayAltay » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:01 am

ejjinami wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:And it is possible to read kosmo based tone accurately, given that they didn't rand scum (lol).

pfffft, yes
kosmo16 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Fenraiser wrote:
watchme1 wrote:kosmo t unless they somehow managed to fake admitting defeat

Where did Kosmo fake-admit defeat?

kosmo town slipped lol

I have no idea how you’re reading it as giving up

even tho, I’d be hesitant to read her for stuff like that in general. Her previous actions should be AI enough


I wouldn't fake townslip (at least not in this game).

no manipulation, please.
kosmo16 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:kosmo you won so many scum games recently that I am literally being paranoid of you at this point.
Like is it possible for him to say Royee to bus them and do nothing else Day 1 and bus them Day 2?
I think their tone was very good at Day 1 but I become paranoid due to how they played Day 2?


Well... I am lucky.

You surely believe in what you just said :) I believe that you believe in what you just said :) Yes.
I don’t think this forum has fallen that low to take that bait
No manipulation, please.


There is very likely only 1 scum left. Watchme is never getting lynched unless the last scum flips and the game doesn’t end so there’s no need to worry about that anyway.
I’d appreciate some feedback on my read on fenraiser. That’s probably the best stuff you can get with the game being inactive as it was.
if there’s a need for me to explain why phone was on the top of my town-reads before, give me a sign. Although their reads were incorrect, their mindset was not sth scum would ever think of faking.

IDK,fencesitting is a weird read when they were very strict on me. I guess you mean only fence on royee, but stil they hammered with no hesitation. (Yeah it is a no-brainer for w!them but still )
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby ejjinami » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:45 am

UzayAltay wrote:IDK,fencesitting is a weird read when they were very strict on me. I guess you mean only fence on royee, but stil they hammered with no hesitation. (Yeah it is a no-brainer for w!them but still )

They appeared hesitant at the beginning and mid-game, while the read on you was posted close to the mid-end of day 1.
but yeah, I’m mostly talking about their attitude towards watchme/royee here

The risk vs rewards system here should be more accentuated because of the setup. The town could have instantly lost if watchme was lynched and everyone was even more on edge because of that.
Scum should thus feel a higher incentive to “get the lynch right”, which I think in fen’s case could have turned into unnecessary hesitance (testing the waters for too long)...

They continued fencesitting on royee/watch till the hammer... They did get normal reads on you, phone and ezra but it’s not anything I’d call AI.
That’s probably close to the minimal level of engagement I’d expect from experienced scum. I’d be way more surprised if they didn’t try faking any reads at all


The few last posts before the hammer were:

phone- I mean... still /vote watch
ezra- eh, I don’t care... /vote royee
kosmo- eh, I thought about it and it’s royee
uzay- well, I’m thinking about it but it’s royee
watchme- lol royee

which is already more than enough for a hammer.

So either town!fenraiser suddenly decided that he doesn’t want to play the game anymore and completely gave up on forming his own opinion (less likely imo) OR he is scum, royee said that he is unable to defend himself and they agreed to bus.

I really don’t get why people are town-reading this here :/


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby Fenraiser » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:52 am

Uzay seemed to bluff so I took the bait.
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CAAN YOOOU GRANT MEE ONE MOOOORE PLEEEEEEEEAAASE!?


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby ejjinami » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:55 am

Fenraiser wrote:Uzay seemed to bluff so I took the bait.

not related to anything I said


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:02 am

Current Vote Count
Player Votes Voters
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mist ~ she/her

i guess this is goodbye?
(still here for danganronpa i guess)


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby Ezradekezra » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:15 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:

VC 2.0
Royee (2) -> Ezradekezra, kosmo16, watchme1, Fenraiser
watchme1 (2) -> Royee, Komaru

Not voting - UzayAltay

royee has been eliminated... they were...
Spoiler: mafia so day 3 starts...

Yay I was right about Watchme/Royee
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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby ejjinami » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:57 am

Hey ezra, ezra who would you want to lynch next?


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Re: VFM78 | Reds Lookin' Kinda Shady | Day 3

Postby Ezradekezra » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:59 am

It looks like we're down to a PoE of Ejji/Fen/Uzay

I don't think that it's Ejji, since Komaru was the first to suggest waiting to resolve Royee/Watchme iirc, which I don't think comes from a scum POV since it would most likely be better for the scumteam to have less discussion time devoted to the matter.

That leaves Uzay and Fen. I'm torn on who it is, but I'm leaning toward w!Fen at the moment. We can afford a single mislynch, though, so if Fen flips green we can just yeet Uzay next.

/vote Fen

Also, can Ejji's ISO be added to the OP whenever Mist gets a chance?
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