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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby ryanyb » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:27 pm

Jeeper5 wrote:
ryanyb wrote:We get a lot of info from flipping flake
but they're also our second PR so

I'm also not a fan of this "flake is JOAT" theme he has going on, seems like a rolefish.

Have you considered that I may be role-fishing the mafia

Also I didn't even know that there was a second joat until like 3 pages ago and I started this bit last phase.
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby fwogcarf » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:49 pm

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ryanyb wrote:Given that no one is posting I'm going to keep going:

I'm somewhat confident on there being at least 1 scum between uzay and fwog.
Uzay's been weird and i dont like it. I thought fwog had reasonable takes yesterday but parking on Uzay at EoD without trying to push it through while giving commentary was weird especially given how flexible things were.

i'm gonna be honest i had no strong scumreads that entire day, so whenever that happens I have no clue where to park my vote. I didn't want to go on michael because i began to TR him when his wagon started to balloon.

How were you reading Kosmo and Manatee at that moment though?

Kosmo meh, I've only really played with them when they're a wolf so idk how to tr them

Manatee idr
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby fwogcarf » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:50 pm

ryanyb wrote:We get a lot of info from flipping flake
but they're also our second PR so

What
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby fwogcarf » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:51 pm

Really tired cause its late see yall tomorrow
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby Flake » Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:01 pm

mynotes wrote:jeeper panicking seems towny
hyena had a kinda sus michael vote
ejj/ryan look genuine at EoD


hyena/ejj*/ryan/kosmo/jeeper on michael
ejj/ezra/uzay/watch/fwog/zorua scattered

uzay/ejj/kosmo/watch on manatee

I'll make some sense out of this in a few hours, need some rest
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby Ezradekezra » Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:20 pm

Reading through Uzay's iso gives me weird vibes.

/vote Uzay

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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:40 pm

ryanyb wrote:I maintain given Michael was PR he should have been at least fucking present for EOD given that he was pressured loudly by two loud players.

Like yes I'm sad he was PR but if he had claimed I'd not have pushed the lynch. I literally said earlier in the day we shouldn't be killing the PR claimants.

Literally this entire eod was preventable if he posted but I guess that's too much to ask sometimes :V


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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby TheDebil » Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:41 pm

my reads are 1 day ahead

hmm

/vote jeeper

not a lot of reasoning for this one
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:51 am

Jeeper just feels weird and not really like the towngames I've played with them
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:54 am

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:Jeeper just feels weird and not really like the towngames I've played with them

Ryan is being villagery
ez reads
either way with the current gamestate I might not re-eval this until LyLo
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:57 am

I maintain that I think that there's a wolf between watch and uzay
there happen to be 3 wolves this game
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:59 am

I also agree that kosmo is villagery
I don't really remember why I thought that though
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:17 am

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:I maintain that I think that there's a wolf between watch and uzay
there happen to be 3 wolves this game

I have come to the conclusion that Ryan is just a villager

I didn't like Watch's progression on them and I still think that Watch's tone is not what it usually is for villa games
But I also don't really like Uzay's posting
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:22 am

ryanyb
kosmo16

Flake
fwogcarf / Ezra
LOLingHyena - the I don't remember tier
ManateeDude / TheDebil / ejjinami
watchme1 / UzayAltay / Jeeper5

Fwogcarf to be re-evaluated
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:24 am

@ryan my EOD was literally "sheep dota".

Also

/vote ejji

I dont like how they analyzed nightkill but didnt analyze EoD.
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:25 am

UzayAltay wrote:@Host does ninja also useful against MD?

Bump @host
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:27 am

and with that one post, my wolfread on Uzay is blown open
cool, they can go up to null for now

specifically, my wolfread on them was for having progressions that didn't make sense, but their progression on Ejji makes some sense and is trackable
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:32 am

I feel more confident voting someone like Watch or Jeeper over Ejji though
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby watchme1 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:11 am

ryanyb wrote:
Jeeper5 wrote:
ryanyb wrote:We get a lot of info from flipping flake
but they're also our second PR so

I'm also not a fan of this "flake is JOAT" theme he has going on, seems like a rolefish.

Have you considered that I may be role-fishing the mafia

Also I didn't even know that there was a second joat until like 3 pages ago and I started this bit last phase.


how does 'role-fishing' the mafia exactly work
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby watchme1 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:12 am

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:
ZoruaLuhansk wrote:I maintain that I think that there's a wolf between watch and uzay
there happen to be 3 wolves this game

I have come to the conclusion that Ryan is just a villager

I didn't like Watch's progression on them and I still think that Watch's tone is not what it usually is for villa games
But I also don't really like Uzay's posting



you didn't like me changing my read on ryan, lol anything for an ez scum read. It do be how it be
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby watchme1 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:13 am

ZoruaLuhansk wrote:I feel more confident voting someone like Watch or Jeeper over Ejji though


So the scum team from your pov in that case is myself/jeeper/ejji?
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby watchme1 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:14 am

ok maybe I should stop being so omgusy about this but i still have my grudges zzzz
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 1

Postby watchme1 » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:19 am

MichaelgRook |4| LOLingHyena, Jeeper5, ryanyb, kosmo16;
kosmo16 |3| TheDebil, Flake, ManateeDude;
ManateeDude |2| ejjinami, CheezePie;
Flake |2| [dota2reporter], UzayAltay;
UzayAltay |2| watchme1, fwogcarf;
TheDebil |1| ZoruaLuhansk;
LOLingHyena |1| MichaelgRook

Inclined to think one/two wolf exists on the michael/kosmo wagons never three I feel (don't think wolves would have needed to do much given the top wagons were tvt). Leaving Hyena/Jeeper/ryan/debil/flake/manatee to contain two scum max if we're putting it this way (assuming t kosmo)

I'm inclined to believe in my t reads on ryan/debil/flake leaving hyena/jeeper/mana having two scum tops.

I legit don't know where I'm going with this but yea
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby ZoruaLuhansk » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:22 am

watchme1 wrote:
ZoruaLuhansk wrote:I feel more confident voting someone like Watch or Jeeper over Ejji though


So the scum team from your pov in that case is myself/jeeper/ejji?

No
I just think that I have reasons to independently wolfread you people
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Re: VFM76 | JOAT^2+ | Day 2

Postby LOLingHyena » Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:33 am

ryanyb wrote:I swapped because michael gave some more insightful reads than I'd thought he had done closer to EoD in his ISO and there was something about the tone in them that made me second guess my read. Additionally, Manatee was doing absolutely nothing. Like, there is nothing in their iso. Literally nothing except arguing against Kosmo who is now in my towncore so.

Lol, I have to go back and reread some stuff, particularly around the time that wagon of six formed on him early on. I swear there was a reason I was townreading him in spite of him doing nothing. But okay, that's fair.
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