VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Game Over

[3cheersforidiots]

@3cheers Exhibit A)2 happened after You voted.
So You voted only Because Javi didnt want to vote Wabbit?
That Dont seems Like make sense.
And your "rational behind" Didnt make much sense to me from a town mindset. Still not making much sense.

Do you think I should have kept my vote on poly, whom I thought had a decent chance of being a v wagon?
That would make even less sense from a town mindset.
Fact of the matter is, my thought process at EoD was:
chances of Wabbit flipping w based on wagon movements > chances of poly flipping w based on wagon movements
I literally do not understand what your problem with this is.

I don't like that you're tunnelling me based on some made-up argument but otherwise not making any progress on the game. You've singled me out ever since D1.

[3cheersforidiots]

also claiming cit.

[kosmo16]

Citizens:
1. Kosmo
2. Uzay
3. 3cheers

Non-Citizens:
1.

[UzayAltay]

@3cheers Exhibit A)2 happened after You voted.
So You voted only Because Javi didnt want to vote Wabbit?
That Dont seems Like make sense.
And your "rational behind" Didnt make much sense to me from a town mindset. Still not making much sense.

Do you think I should have kept my vote on poly, whom I thought had a decent chance of being a v wagon?
That would make even less sense from a town mindset.
Fact of the matter is, my thought process at EoD was:
chances of Wabbit flipping w based on wagon movements > chances of poly flipping w based on wagon movements
I literally do not understand what your problem with this is.

I don't like that you're tunnelling me based on some made-up argument but otherwise not making any progress on the game. You've singled me out ever since D1.

Because that literally reverses your before reads
And You cannot Show your read on that area now. (Unless You are claiming to change only Because Javi was against it.)
Seriously. İf You had a read Like that, You should be able to show and explain your reads, right ?

[kosmo16]

well there goes the +ve play out the window, fuckos

Come on bobo. Claim cit or no-cit.

[cob709]

This doesn't make sense...
If you're telling everyone to claim citizen/not citizen, then Town Power will be exposed to Mafia.
Unless that's what you're trying to do?

[kosmo16]

i think we might have accidentally come up with a breaking strategy LOL

Yeah... Don't tell too much. We don't want to give scums hints in which group they should take 2 spots.

[kosmo16]

Citizens:
1. Kosmo
2. Uzay
3. 3cheers
4. Hello
Non-Citizens:
1.jabi

[kosmo16]

ok plan

2nd hider claims Hider

other 2 PRs claim non-cit

i am aware it sounds stupid but trust me i think it'll work

It can be the 2nd part of the claims. No need to rush/ For now we can split to cit and non-cit. I want to see what Mafia decides.

[SparkingJay]

we massclaiming?

[kosmo16]

we massclaiming?

Just cit and non-cit for now.

[kosmo16]

ok plan

2nd hider claims Hider

other 2 PRs claim non-cit

i am aware it sounds stupid but trust me i think it'll work

It can be the 2nd part of the claims. No need to rush/ For now we can split to cit and non-cit. I want to see what Mafia decides.

it's better to see if we can get something even more +ve first

Well, if Mafia is stupid then yes. Well if you see them doing something stupid it clears me

[SparkingJay]

IF YOU ARE VISITOR CLAIM VISITOR NOW

IF YOU ARE PR DO NOT CLAIM YET

Caught up responding later.

Claiming visitor means Nea can't get anymore checks without threat of being NK'd, how is this +EV.

[SparkingJay]

Claiming PR/Visitor for now.

[kosmo16]

IF YOU ARE VISITOR CLAIM VISITOR NOW

IF YOU ARE PR DO NOT CLAIM YET

Caught up responding later.

Claiming visitor means Nea can't get anymore checks without threat of being NK'd, how is this +EV.

you'll see

Think twice. Consider all possible Mafia claims.

[kosmo16]

IF YOU ARE VISITOR CLAIM VISITOR NOW

IF YOU ARE PR DO NOT CLAIM YET

Caught up responding later.

Claiming visitor means Nea can't get anymore checks without threat of being NK'd, how is this +EV.

you'll see

Think twice. Consider all possible Mafia claims.

Sorry, I can't see any additional value from claiming visitor.

[lemonader666]

Sorry for the general thread inactivity, i don't know what's up with me this game. Everything just feels so...slow to process...
I don't know if this benefits town or scum more, so I'll take a look at the scenarios in a moment.
Readlist coming soon + I can guarantee to be at EoD this time as I need to be on for something else too.

[SparkingJay]

I'm still trying to understand what Flake is thinking, still think claiming non cit is better with a pool of 3 and a Citpool that needs solving.

[kosmo16]

IF YOU ARE VISITOR CLAIM VISITOR NOW

IF YOU ARE PR DO NOT CLAIM YET

Caught up responding later.

Claiming visitor means Nea can't get anymore checks without threat of being NK'd, how is this +EV.

you'll see

Think twice. Consider all possible Mafia claims.

Sorry, I can't see any additional value from claiming visitor.

It won't give you more than 33%.

[kosmo16]

I'm still trying to understand what Flake is thinking, still think claiming non cit is better with a pool of 3 and a Citpool that needs solving.

I know what is he thinking, but it leads to the same chances as we claim Cit and non-Cit.

[kosmo16]

Citizens:
3cheersforidiots
UzayAltay
HelloSither
kosmo16

Non-citizens:
SparkingJayYT
Jabichuelas

Unknown:
lemonader666
Crimson97
polypies73
ScarredSamurai/Chemist
cob709

[SparkingJay]

I'm still trying to understand what Flake is thinking, still think claiming non cit is better with a pool of 3 and a Citpool that needs solving.

I know what is he thinking, but it leads to the same chances as we claim Cit and non-Cit.

Wait I think I have cracked the code on what he means or I just found a reason to want to claim between PR/VIsitor

[SparkingJay]

meh I am just going to claim Visitor, come cc me bitches.

[SparkingJay]

Assuming who I think is Nea turns out to be true, this game will turn interesting.

[kosmo16]

meh I am just going to claim Visitor, come cc me bitches.

OK. So let's check if anyone else wants to claim Visitor as well. We need to wait for

lemonader666
Crimson97
polypies73
ScarredSamurai/Chemist
cob709

to check in. Claim Visitor/Non-vistor for now.