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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:54 pm

3cheersforidiots wrote:I think lemon can go back in my scumlean category as well
- posts 'just noticed JK is indecisive' - meaning he was looking at rolecards despite not being too engaged with the thread overall; following Sparking's logic of 'scum is more likely to be analyse the RCs and setup for strategy,' this can easily be a scumtell (again, combined with overall thread presence that follows)
- clears Jabi based on a 'slip' of sorts
- has an initial v read on Wabbit, then flip-flops over his slot many times during his ISO - does vote him at one point, then once again agrees with him in his following post; also has casual convos but not really a meaningful conversation
- same happens with Samurai, more or less
- has a random townread on me which then goes unexplained

taking into account the current thread temperature (which, at the moment, is suspicious towards Wabbit), I think it is possible for lemon/Wabbit to be a scumteam
I'm not sure how this would go spew-wise, but I'm tempted to say w!lemon -> w!Wabbit is how it goes

Doesn't exactly work that way, I read the OP as either alignment. Only works with people that aren't aware of information in the OP
Rest I will need to read context.

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:56 pm

3cheers where is your vote at atm?

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:57 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:hm
/vote Wabbit

also ftr 3cheers Wabbit's reachy read on Uzay's entrance was terrible.

Yeah and What was Wabbit's agenda with that?
I refuse to vote Wabbit Unless You come up with an agenda read, which I couldn't find for now.

Get you pushed?
If we are talking about the same post I think it's likely they tried to pull a SFM70, the read was very reachy and made little to no sense from wolf mindset.

Yes
But Pushing me is not The agenda.
For example, in that SFM and standart Game, Wabbit played Directly to Mislynch me, while engage outside of that minimally.
At there, they had some ideas on everything. Even though they didnt engage at other scumreads , they gave multiple scumreads and townreads, which is somewhat different.
Only thing I can see is A steamroll kind of plan, but still , Wabbit didnt felt Like trying to mislynch me Unless for some reason they decided to Take no support from their buddies.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:58 pm

3cheersforidiots wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Wabbit/3cheers in Wabbits ISO:
- First 2 pages no interactions besides Wabbit keeping 3cheers as null
- 3rd page only association is calling an interaction between Hello/3cheers v/v
- 4th page nothing besides game unrelated talk and Wabbit talking about Uzay's vote on 3cheers.
What I find interesting is that they still had 3cheers as null yet didn't question why 3cheers was seen as a Top TR in Poly's readslist:
TheWabbit wrote:
polypies73 wrote:{TheWabbit, Crimson97, 3cheersforidiots}
{kosmo16, Jabichuelas, lemonader666}
{dota2reporter, UzayAltay, ScarredSamurai}
{SparkingJayYT, cob709, HelloSither}

explain kosmo, scarred, sparking, and hellosither

- Later they jot 3cheers as a Townlean with no explanation

Rest of the iso is bland in terms of interactions, chances of w/w is very possible.
Tonewise to each other they were consistently casually talking

ho boy, you're starting to convince me that Wabbit was trying to buddy me
what has the world come to

Uhh
İnterestingly I thought The Opposite.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:00 pm

i think samurai/lemon/sither/3cheers/poly are all town but they dont seem to tr each other which is annoying
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:04 pm

crimson is either pr or scum
i'm scared to vote him
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:06 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:3cheers where is your vote at atm?

poly
willing to CFD if there's a convincing case, but my issue is that I have too many scumreads for the actual amount of scum there is in this game
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:08 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Wabbit/3cheers in Wabbits ISO:
- First 2 pages no interactions besides Wabbit keeping 3cheers as null
- 3rd page only association is calling an interaction between Hello/3cheers v/v
- 4th page nothing besides game unrelated talk and Wabbit talking about Uzay's vote on 3cheers.
What I find interesting is that they still had 3cheers as null yet didn't question why 3cheers was seen as a Top TR in Poly's readslist:
TheWabbit wrote:
polypies73 wrote:{TheWabbit, Crimson97, 3cheersforidiots}
{kosmo16, Jabichuelas, lemonader666}
{dota2reporter, UzayAltay, ScarredSamurai}
{SparkingJayYT, cob709, HelloSither}

explain kosmo, scarred, sparking, and hellosither

- Later they jot 3cheers as a Townlean with no explanation

Rest of the iso is bland in terms of interactions, chances of w/w is very possible.
Tonewise to each other they were consistently casually talking

ho boy, you're starting to convince me that Wabbit was trying to buddy me
what has the world come to

Uhh
İnterestingly I thought The Opposite.

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:21 pm

the entire thread is frozen
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:23 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:hm
/vote Wabbit

also ftr 3cheers Wabbit's reachy read on Uzay's entrance was terrible.

Yeah and What was Wabbit's agenda with that?
I refuse to vote Wabbit Unless You come up with an agenda read, which I couldn't find for now.

Get you pushed?
If we are talking about the same post I think it's likely they tried to pull a SFM70, the read was very reachy and made little to no sense from wolf mindset.

Yes
But Pushing me is not The agenda.
For example, in that SFM and standart Game, Wabbit played Directly to Mislynch me, while engage outside of that minimally.
At there, they had some ideas on everything. Even though they didnt engage at other scumreads , they gave multiple scumreads and townreads, which is somewhat different.
Only thing I can see is A steamroll kind of plan, but still , Wabbit didnt felt Like trying to mislynch me Unless for some reason they decided to Take no support from their buddies.

I was mainly focusing on their progression on you, they've been pressuring to lynch you for the entire day wut who else are they pressuring.
You are right that they aren't asking others about their Uzay read and convincing them, you still are atm a priority lynch for them from what I see.

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby ScarredSamurai » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:24 pm

Imma be honest, I'm generally lost atm. I don't want a CFD rather a poly/High info Lynch.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:24 pm

3cheersforidiots wrote:the entire thread is frozen

I'd call DADV on whoever is topwagon but I'm not sure on who is actually top.

think hello or poly.

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:25 pm

ScarredSamurai wrote:Imma be honest, I'm generally lost atm. I don't want a CFD rather a poly/High info Lynch.

Read the game then

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:25 pm

UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Wabbit/3cheers in Wabbits ISO:
- First 2 pages no interactions besides Wabbit keeping 3cheers as null
- 3rd page only association is calling an interaction between Hello/3cheers v/v
- 4th page nothing besides game unrelated talk and Wabbit talking about Uzay's vote on 3cheers.
What I find interesting is that they still had 3cheers as null yet didn't question why 3cheers was seen as a Top TR in Poly's readslist:
TheWabbit wrote:
polypies73 wrote:{TheWabbit, Crimson97, 3cheersforidiots}
{kosmo16, Jabichuelas, lemonader666}
{dota2reporter, UzayAltay, ScarredSamurai}
{SparkingJayYT, cob709, HelloSither}

explain kosmo, scarred, sparking, and hellosither

- Later they jot 3cheers as a Townlean with no explanation

Rest of the iso is bland in terms of interactions, chances of w/w is very possible.
Tonewise to each other they were consistently casually talking

ho boy, you're starting to convince me that Wabbit was trying to buddy me
what has the world come to

Uhh
İnterestingly I thought The Opposite.

From what I posted, it's possible.

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby dota2reporter » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:28 pm

/vote crimson yolo
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:32 pm

dota2reporter wrote:/vote crimson yolo

this is actually gonna come in helpful in determining PoE
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:34 pm

makeshift vc
Poly (3) 3cheers, Jabichuelas, Samurai
Hello (1) Poly
3cheers (1) Uzay
Wabbit (3) Sparking, Lemon, Crimson (Lol)
Crimson (1) Dota
Uzay (2) Wabbit, Hello

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:35 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:the entire thread is frozen

I'd call DADV on whoever is topwagon but I'm not sure on who is actually top.

think hello or poly.

CFD one of Crimson/dota?
or Wabbit, if you want

P-edit: hmm
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby kosmo16 » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:36 pm

CFD already? Don't we have like 1 day more?
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby SparkingJay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:37 pm

3cheersforidiots wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:the entire thread is frozen

I'd call DADV on whoever is topwagon but I'm not sure on who is actually top.

think hello or poly.

CFD one of Crimson/dota?
or Wabbit, if you want

P-edit: hmm

Crimson/Dota aren't SvS so pretty much 50/50 if there is a scum in them.
2 of the votes on Wabbit are memes, I'd be hesitant on it given I don't have strong reads on either Lemon/Crimson

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby kosmo16 » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:37 pm

wait we have 40 minutes only?
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:37 pm

kosmo16 wrote:CFD already? Don't we have like 1 day more?

we have less than 40 minutes
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:37 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Wabbit/3cheers in Wabbits ISO:
- First 2 pages no interactions besides Wabbit keeping 3cheers as null
- 3rd page only association is calling an interaction between Hello/3cheers v/v
- 4th page nothing besides game unrelated talk and Wabbit talking about Uzay's vote on 3cheers.
What I find interesting is that they still had 3cheers as null yet didn't question why 3cheers was seen as a Top TR in Poly's readslist:
TheWabbit wrote:
polypies73 wrote:{TheWabbit, Crimson97, 3cheersforidiots}
{kosmo16, Jabichuelas, lemonader666}
{dota2reporter, UzayAltay, ScarredSamurai}
{SparkingJayYT, cob709, HelloSither}

explain kosmo, scarred, sparking, and hellosither

- Later they jot 3cheers as a Townlean with no explanation

Rest of the iso is bland in terms of interactions, chances of w/w is very possible.
Tonewise to each other they were consistently casually talking

ho boy, you're starting to convince me that Wabbit was trying to buddy me
what has the world come to

Uhh
İnterestingly I thought The Opposite.

From what I posted, it's possible.

To clarify: It was my general opinion.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:39 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:the entire thread is frozen

I'd call DADV on whoever is topwagon but I'm not sure on who is actually top.

think hello or poly.

CFD one of Crimson/dota?
or Wabbit, if you want

P-edit: hmm

Crimson/Dota aren't SvS so pretty much 50/50 if there is a scum in them.
2 of the votes on Wabbit are memes, I'd be hesitant on it given I don't have strong reads on either Lemon/Crimson

who do you suggest, then?
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:40 pm

Is there any case on Poly?
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