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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby Crimson97 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:43 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:I was tinfoiling the possibility of there being at least 1 scum within [Crimson/Lemon] due to not appearing at EoD, I was thinking that either of them decided not to show up at EoD to keep their votes on Wabbit which were still classified as memevotes.

I was inactive cause of irl stuff.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby SparkingJay » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:44 pm

cob709 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
cob709 wrote:
ScarredSamurai wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:hypoing nea

Lemon - Not cit.


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kosmo16 wrote:Oh, I hope visiting roles know that they can't fake who they visited.

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Crimson97 wrote:Oh we're hypoing.
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Are all 4 of you claiming Neopolitan? That is impossible. The role list only has 1 Neopolitan

wrong

how? I don't understand how that's wrong. 3 of them are lying, only 1 of them can possible be neo.

We are hypoclaiming.

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby Crimson97 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:45 pm

cob709 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
cob709 wrote:
ScarredSamurai wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:hypoing nea

Lemon - Not cit.


Polypies73 - Not Cit.

kosmo16 wrote:Oh, I hope visiting roles know that they can't fake who they visited.

dota - Citizen

Crimson97 wrote:Oh we're hypoing.
Cob-Cit

Are all 4 of you claiming Neopolitan? That is impossible. The role list only has 1 Neopolitan

wrong

how? I don't understand how that's wrong. 3 of them are lying, only 1 of them can possible be neo.

It's called hypoclaiming. Everyone claims a neo result so the real neo can claim amongst them and tell everyone their result without actually coming out.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby SparkingJay » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:45 pm

Crimson97 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:I was tinfoiling the possibility of there being at least 1 scum within [Crimson/Lemon] due to not appearing at EoD, I was thinking that either of them decided not to show up at EoD to keep their votes on Wabbit which were still classified as memevotes.

I was inactive cause of irl stuff.

In your POV sure

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby SparkingJay » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:51 pm

All I get from that EoD is:
- Poly/Uzay not w/w
- Poly/Jabi not w/w

Might try to analyse deeper later but I need to sleep bye.

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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby cob709 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:24 pm

Crimson97 wrote:
cob709 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
cob709 wrote:
ScarredSamurai wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:hypoing nea

Lemon - Not cit.


Polypies73 - Not Cit.

kosmo16 wrote:Oh, I hope visiting roles know that they can't fake who they visited.

dota - Citizen

Crimson97 wrote:Oh we're hypoing.
Cob-Cit

Are all 4 of you claiming Neopolitan? That is impossible. The role list only has 1 Neopolitan

wrong

how? I don't understand how that's wrong. 3 of them are lying, only 1 of them can possible be neo.

It's called hypoclaiming. Everyone claims a neo result so the real neo can claim amongst them and tell everyone their result without actually coming out.

Oh that's a smart idea. Alright sorry.
SparkingJayYT wrote:All I get from that EoD is:
- Poly/Uzay not w/w
- Poly/Jabi not w/w

Might try to analyse deeper later but I need to sleep bye.

what does w/w mean? Can you explain how you got that?
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby Jabichuelas » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:28 pm

I don't feel good about hypoclaiming, but I feel like I'll just feel forced to do it anyway later on when I wake up because everyone else will have done it and they will force me to do it and I can't be the one who screws up the entire thing, just want to observe whether everyone in the game is happy with this or not

Also I don't get dota being the nightkill, wasn't he being scumread and "underproductive"?
(sorry dota, I would've asked you that now that wabbit died maybe you could be more involved, but I guess not)

@lemon @crimson were your votes meant to stay there?

SparkingJayYT wrote:
Jabichuelas wrote:Hold on, this is not right at all

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that Wabbit flipped town and immediately start hypoclaiming?
He strongly disagreed to it, are we not going to talk about how his death feels too convenient for you and your plans, or about how much of a threat he could have been to the mafia while we're at it?

and imo, Sparking doesn't feel too bothered about it
3cheers' sudden vote also seemed too unexpected to me, didn't bring that up during the end of D1 because during then I thought maybe she was just convinced about Wabbit being the right vote but after reading the entire thread again it bugs me off
(assume I read the entire thread once in a day before beginning to post)

After seeing wabbit being mislynched I considered something like this to happen, and I'm bringing this up because it happened.

Just because Wabbit disagreed with it means no one else can hypo? wut

Also didn't feel too bothered about what

I'm not saying you can't, if I'm honest I don't know enough myself to pick a side about whether hypoclaiming is good or not, but there were definitely mixed thoughts about it and imo we're now pretending they were never there to begin with, which I don't think is a good signal
fine it doesn't help my point that wabbit never talked about "the scum strat to counter hypoclaiming and SHC", but still, I feel like there shouldn't be carelessness about this topic

besides, I mentioned earlier that I thought he was being a threat to mafia, and by thinking that way and seeing his town flip my reads changed completely
so I figured his flip would be telling for everyone else in the game as well, not just EoD I guess

I think you didn't feel too bothered about him dying, and your reasoning "being wrong" in a way. Maybe you're all used to mislynching, but I'm not so that's why I brought that up
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby Jabichuelas » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:37 pm

I dunno, I think Samurai is onto something myself
guess I'll just focus on that tomorrow
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby Crimson97 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:31 pm

Jabichuelas wrote:@lemon @crimson were your votes meant to stay there?

No. I'm not sure who i'd have voted cause i haven't read several pages but i would have at least unvoted Wabbit.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby Crimson97 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:38 pm

Jabi why don't you like hypoclaiming?
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby polypies73 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:11 pm

ScarredSamurai wrote:/vote Polypies73

Time to finish this that EoD was blatant. I'm mad I forgot about it.


ok so i will be playing today, and if i stop playing then you can hound me to play.

first of all I'll say be prepared to stop tunnelling me. For a start, your case on me is pretty level 1, meaning it's really something to respond to, plus I know you can find actual "scummy" things if you wanted a case.

secondly, we are talking about that wabbit cfd. I will be honest in saying that i sort of "knew" I would be cfd'd cause hey that's what we do, and secondly, we're basically never right on our first choice of a lynch that survives as a wagon the whole day (and you're still not right).

thirdly, i swear if i see people hypoclaiming, when it's clearly not good a play reiterated by a man who just flipped green who although sometimes, INtEReStInG, knows what they are talking about, if you don't want to believe me.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby polypies73 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:12 pm

Jabichuelas wrote:Hold on, this is not right at all

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that Wabbit flipped town and immediately start hypoclaiming?
He strongly disagreed to it, are we not going to talk about how his death feels too convenient for you and your plans, or about how much of a threat he could have been to the mafia while we're at it?

and imo, Sparking doesn't feel too bothered about it
3cheers' sudden vote also seemed too unexpected to me, didn't bring that up during the end of D1 because during then I thought maybe she was just convinced about Wabbit being the right vote but after reading the entire thread again it bugs me off
(assume I read the entire thread once in a day before beginning to post)

After seeing wabbit being mislynched I considered something like this to happen, and I'm bringing this up because it happened.


Jabi you are firmly within the towncore now, it's sad you were the first one to even comment on wabbit.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby polypies73 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:16 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:hypoing nea

Lemon - Not cit.


wtf is this hypo sparking. like i don't want to explain it in case wolves are inexperienced, but like bruh.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby Crimson97 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:17 pm

polypies73 wrote:
ScarredSamurai wrote:/vote Polypies73

Time to finish this that EoD was blatant. I'm mad I forgot about it.


ok so i will be playing today, and if i stop playing then you can hound me to play.

first of all I'll say be prepared to stop tunnelling me. For a start, your case on me is pretty level 1, meaning it's really something to respond to, plus I know you can find actual "scummy" things if you wanted a case.

secondly, we are talking about that wabbit cfd. I will be honest in saying that i sort of "knew" I would be cfd'd cause hey that's what we do, and secondly, we're basically never right on our first choice of a lynch that survives as a wagon the whole day (and you're still not right).

thirdly, i swear if i see people hypoclaiming, when it's clearly not good a play reiterated by a man who just flipped green who although sometimes, INtEReStInG, knows what they are talking about, if you don't want to believe me.

Do you think there's scum within Kosmo/Sparking?
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby polypies73 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:27 pm

Crimson97 wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
ScarredSamurai wrote:/vote Polypies73

Time to finish this that EoD was blatant. I'm mad I forgot about it.


ok so i will be playing today, and if i stop playing then you can hound me to play.

first of all I'll say be prepared to stop tunnelling me. For a start, your case on me is pretty level 1, meaning it's really something to respond to, plus I know you can find actual "scummy" things if you wanted a case.

secondly, we are talking about that wabbit cfd. I will be honest in saying that i sort of "knew" I would be cfd'd cause hey that's what we do, and secondly, we're basically never right on our first choice of a lynch that survives as a wagon the whole day (and you're still not right).

thirdly, i swear if i see people hypoclaiming, when it's clearly not good a play reiterated by a man who just flipped green who although sometimes, INtEReStInG, knows what they are talking about, if you don't want to believe me.

Do you think there's scum within Kosmo/Sparking?


sparking I've said is scum like the whole game, should probably do a case or something.
kosmo tbh I've shoved into the i don't want to read pile because i forgot that their playstyle was like this.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby polypies73 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:28 pm

Crimson97 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:I was tinfoiling the possibility of there being at least 1 scum within [Crimson/Lemon] due to not appearing at EoD, I was thinking that either of them decided not to show up at EoD to keep their votes on Wabbit which were still classified as memevotes.

I was inactive cause of irl stuff.

i mean that tinfoil is so bad it's causing like mountains of twtbaw
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby polypies73 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:29 pm

Hellosither wrote:
ScarredSamurai wrote:/vote Polypies73

Time to finish this that EoD was blatant. I'm mad I forgot about it.

what? the end of day consisted of no one caring about the lynch, implicating polypies as town since mafia would likely have done something to lower the possibility of a mafia polypies lynch. i fail to see how that end of day can be considered an argument AGAINST polypies.

also i don't understand your play but after my bs yesterday it's pretty clear you are town so gl
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby polypies73 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:32 pm

Jabichuelas wrote:I don't feel good about hypoclaiming, but I feel like I'll just feel forced to do it anyway later on when I wake up because everyone else will have done it and they will force me to do it and I can't be the one who screws up the entire thing, just want to observe whether everyone in the game is happy with this or not

Also I don't get dota being the nightkill, wasn't he being scumread and "underproductive"?
(sorry dota, I would've asked you that now that wabbit died maybe you could be more involved, but I guess not)

@lemon @crimson were your votes meant to stay there?

SparkingJayYT wrote:
Jabichuelas wrote:Hold on, this is not right at all

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that Wabbit flipped town and immediately start hypoclaiming?
He strongly disagreed to it, are we not going to talk about how his death feels too convenient for you and your plans, or about how much of a threat he could have been to the mafia while we're at it?

and imo, Sparking doesn't feel too bothered about it
3cheers' sudden vote also seemed too unexpected to me, didn't bring that up during the end of D1 because during then I thought maybe she was just convinced about Wabbit being the right vote but after reading the entire thread again it bugs me off
(assume I read the entire thread once in a day before beginning to post)

After seeing wabbit being mislynched I considered something like this to happen, and I'm bringing this up because it happened.

Just because Wabbit disagreed with it means no one else can hypo? wut

Also didn't feel too bothered about what

I'm not saying you can't, if I'm honest I don't know enough myself to pick a side about whether hypoclaiming is good or not, but there were definitely mixed thoughts about it and imo we're now pretending they were never there to begin with, which I don't think is a good signal
fine it doesn't help my point that wabbit never talked about "the scum strat to counter hypoclaiming and SHC", but still, I feel like there shouldn't be carelessness about this topic

besides, I mentioned earlier that I thought he was being a threat to mafia, and by thinking that way and seeing his town flip my reads changed completely
so I figured his flip would be telling for everyone else in the game as well, not just EoD I guess

I think you didn't feel too bothered about him dying, and your reasoning "being wrong" in a way. Maybe you're all used to mislynching, but I'm not so that's why I brought that up


yes, yes and yes

wabbit was very likely accurate with their reads if scum felt the need to cfd onto him over heck me or uzay or someone else.
wabbit didn't want to talk about the scum strat to counter hypoclaiming cause well, that helps scum.
and yeah now that like 4 people have already hypoclaimed we kind of have to go along with it.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby ScarredSamurai » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:33 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:Ok i am an idiot for not realising day was gonna end so soon, but town are even more idiotic for lynching Wabbit.

I want to PL you for that comment.

Town was stupid for lynching wabbit though.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby ScarredSamurai » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:34 pm

cob709 wrote:
ScarredSamurai wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:hypoing nea

Lemon - Not cit.


Polypies73 - Not Cit.

kosmo16 wrote:Oh, I hope visiting roles know that they can't fake who they visited.

dota - Citizen

Crimson97 wrote:Oh we're hypoing.
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Are all 4 of you claiming Neopolitan? That is impossible. The role list only has 1 Neopolitan


We went over this. Hypoing is where everyone claims NEO with a fake claim so the real NEO can out their results upon their death.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby ScarredSamurai » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:34 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Gut feeling both wagons at EoD were TvT

mainly due to the dead atmosphere when Poly was topwagon for several hours leading up to EoD, if my facts are correct.

Thats logical but.. If not Poly. Do you think scum just watched it unfold? as I missed EoD so i can't possibally tell.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby ScarredSamurai » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:37 pm

Okay Poly has some good points. Im tired and tomorrow im going to look over that EoD and check out the movement. If what sparking is true then Poly is probs V.

Night and cyall tmr.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby cob709 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:44 pm

ScarredSamurai wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Gut feeling both wagons at EoD were TvT

mainly due to the dead atmosphere when Poly was topwagon for several hours leading up to EoD, if my facts are correct.

Thats logical but.. If not Poly. Do you think scum just watched it unfold? as I missed EoD so i can't possibally tell.

Players that led the wagon may be scum by leading town to mislynch, they wouldn't stand by and do nothing.
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Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Postby polypies73 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:45 pm

/vote sparking
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