VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Game Over

[Jabichuelas]

I still personally feel like Poly is the best lynch. They have been awkward. Has shaded almost everyone to avoid discussions and their reads go all over the place. They seem to be trying to do "town slips" like making jokes with random.org but it comes off to me as awkward.

Poly is either scum or the best mislynch target for scum
and it's frustrating to not know

[cob709]

Hellosither - maybe town?
UzayAltay, SparkingJayYT - slight town inclination
TheWabbit, cob709, Jabichuelas, polypies73, 3cheersforidiots - very slight town inclination
kosmo16, dota2reporter, lemonader666, Crimson97, ScarredSamurai - heavy uncertainty (probably very slight scum inclination in virtue of my other town leans)

Why am I your top scumread if you haven't even quoted any of my posts nor mentioned why I was scum

Besides that explain Crimson, lemon and Kosmo scumreads. And explain Uzay, Polypies Town read please.

where did I say ur my top scumread? the list isn’t ordered :L thanks for the abnormally defensive reaction to a “very slight scum lean” though.

I’ve not found anything of yours to more likely come from a town headspace, which is why ur lower than people where I have found something. my “scumreads” are automatically by virtue of my town leans, as I mentioned.

explanations will come when I’m not busy, I have over half of my explanations saved on my laptop which I can’t access atm since I’m not home.

interesting list, but i dont understand why you but scarred and wabbit near the bottom.
Scarred has been pretty good participating in a bunch of reads.
Wabbit has been making lots of reads himself earlier in D1.

[3cheersforidiots]

I still personally feel like Poly is the best lynch. They have been awkward. Has shaded almost everyone to avoid discussions and their reads go all over the place. They seem to be trying to do "town slips" like making jokes with random.org but it comes off to me as awkward.

no yeah, I definitely still agree with this

[UzayAltay]

@Javi can I ask you to spesify (or rephrase) the line about me?

I said no one knows what you're doing because you're picking things to overanalyze that no one else is interested in to make it look like you're doing a lot of work, because no one else would deepen themselves into said things to be sure.

I think you're assuming we have the same context as you when you make a post but we're busy being focused with other stuff that we believe are more important. Why bother that much about a middle bracket, or very specific traits of 3cheers' writing? Even asking me about SFM72 feels somewhat like a forced interaction.

somehow I still doubt that you're scum because what if you're actually being genuine about all of this? (Sorry if you are.) That's probably going to change because of how little day we have left, but idk I got lost by being myself

if the "we" doesn't apply to someone here, say it, i wanna be sure
sorry if that was uncalled for, maybe im being small brain

TBH the middle bracket thing was Because it makes it impossible to comment on. Like Idk If my explanation was clear, but Seriously without a clear scheme of reads in readslists, it makes it just impossible to understand.
It's standart to not spesify it If amount of lines is odd but at even I just couldn't understand it.
For example, somebody made A readslists with 4 brackets ( Dont remember Who atm ). Okay, it is clear #1 is TRs some sort of, #4 is scumreads sort of, What's #2-3?
The 3cheers thing was, A Meta read I was holding Because thing I realized and I thought If they are scum clearing people from there might be very useful. Maybe I had better revealed it mid-Day, though I cannot see .
That SFM72 question was, I think I asked it shortly after you made A post about that game so I thought it may be A good idea to see your reaction from there.

[SparkingJay]

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/search.php?t=108842&author=3cheersforidiots

That is 3cheers' Last scum Game.

search.php?f=17&t=108553&author=3cheersforidiots

That is Last town Game of them.

First Let me explain "The list."
I realized that in their scum Game , they avoid making exclamation marks, or showing emotion , to their mafbuddies.
(Speaking things Like oh, Bruh, ???, or similar.)

About Why I think they are scum , it is A Meta read as You probably guessed So far. At their town Game , they ISO people after their catchup at their town Game.
For example: #3444689
#3443763
At their scum Game , it Dont felt that way. It felt they catch-up, and Than Look around for posts to comment.
At that game, it is clearly The latter one. They seems as catch-up, state their opinion on posts, and Than? Do Nothing.

/vote 3cheers

Mostly a skim of ISOs, they look more passive-aggressive as scum compared to when they are town.
Here some of their responses in their walls show passive-aggressiveness especially in their first wall and 2nd most recent.

I was tinfoiling the possibility of [Wabbit/3Cheers] scumteam, there isn't much behind it, just lack of associations with each other in 3cheers' ISO besides minor interactions and me individually thinking they have some form of wolf equity.

[3cheersforidiots]

dota next
- supports hypoing
- immediately after, gets into an argument with Uzay and backs out 2 posts later
((((unvotes when he didn't even vote before))))
- has consistent townreads for the most part, but has no scumreads whatsoever
- overall tone is very dota-ey
Now, I certainly get the feeling that dota is absent-minded in this thread and that he doesn't pay attention. Perhaps as a consequence, his posts are generally scummy in nature. My thought process here is that since he's absent-minded, he doesn't pay attention much to controlling his posts or his content, and in this case, I think this more likely has led to his scumminess being exposed, as opposed to him seeming off despite being town because of how different he acts in this game.
I'm not sure if I phrased this well, but I hope y'all get the idea.

[3cheersforidiots]

And if it wasn't clear, this leads me to a scumlean on dota

[UzayAltay]

@Sparking I considered that but Each of both's attidudes toward Each other didnt give me w/w vibe.

[SparkingJay]

hm
/vote Wabbit

also ftr 3cheers Wabbit's reachy read on Uzay's entrance was terrible.

[SparkingJay]

@Sparking I considered that but Each of both's attidudes toward Each other didnt give me w/w vibe.

I'll check again in Wabbit's ISO

[3cheersforidiots]

I'm not gonna get into Wabbit now because I still find that impossible (though I'll retain my slight v-lean on him for nulltonal reasons), but let me know if you guys think he's got wolf equity and/or is trying to yeet me into scumread territory

[3cheersforidiots]

hm
/vote Wabbit

also ftr 3cheers Wabbit's reachy read on Uzay's entrance was terrible.

noted
also underlines my you/him not w/w thought

[UzayAltay]

hm
/vote Wabbit

also ftr 3cheers Wabbit's reachy read on Uzay's entrance was terrible.

Yeah and What was Wabbit's agenda with that?
I refuse to vote Wabbit Unless You come up with an agenda read, which I couldn't find for now.

[3cheersforidiots]

Crimson:
- lemon???
not w/w: Uzay, maaybe Wabbit(?), Hello
lots of memes and lots of one-word replies - now, this is traditionally scummy, but is also well within Crimson's town play from what I have seen
concerns: townreads Jabi, but a few posts later points out one of their posts as coming from a scum mentality - unless this is explained somehow, I'm gonna give this progression a scumpoint
also perhaps noting that he didn't really engage with me aside from asking about my readlist
concerns on the other side: I'm not sure how likely a dota/Crimson scumteam is based on their interactions. It's tempting, but I don't think, at the moment, that there is more than 2 scum in the pool of players I have played multiple games or at least one long game with, so I'll probably have to sort that one out whenever I get the time
Irrespective of that, I am currently retaining some suspicion towards Crimson because of the concerns I mentioned above

[SparkingJay]

Wabbit/3cheers in Wabbits ISO:
- First 2 pages no interactions besides Wabbit keeping 3cheers as null
- 3rd page only association is calling an interaction between Hello/3cheers v/v
- 4th page nothing besides game unrelated talk and Wabbit talking about Uzay's vote on 3cheers.
What I find interesting is that they still had 3cheers as null yet didn't question why 3cheers was seen as a Top TR in Poly's readslist:
Spoiler:

{TheWabbit, Crimson97, 3cheersforidiots}
{kosmo16, Jabichuelas, lemonader666}
{dota2reporter, UzayAltay, ScarredSamurai}
{SparkingJayYT, cob709, HelloSither}

explain kosmo, scarred, sparking, and hellosither

- Later they jot 3cheers as a Townlean with no explanation

Rest of the iso is bland in terms of interactions, chances of w/w is very possible.
Tonewise to each other they were consistently casually talking

[3cheersforidiots]

I think that's all the people who would probably be able to metaread me (let me know if I missed someone) - I know I didn't particularly analyse them in terms of their interactions with me, mostly because none of these three have many to analyse

that said, I'm gonna have a quick skim on lemon because it's a largely ? slot atm

[SparkingJay]

hm
/vote Wabbit

also ftr 3cheers Wabbit's reachy read on Uzay's entrance was terrible.

Yeah and What was Wabbit's agenda with that?
I refuse to vote Wabbit Unless You come up with an agenda read, which I couldn't find for now.

Get you pushed?
If we are talking about the same post I think it's likely they tried to pull a SFM70, the read was very reachy and made little to no sense from wolf mindset.

[3cheersforidiots]

Wabbit/3cheers in Wabbits ISO:
- First 2 pages no interactions besides Wabbit keeping 3cheers as null
- 3rd page only association is calling an interaction between Hello/3cheers v/v
- 4th page nothing besides game unrelated talk and Wabbit talking about Uzay's vote on 3cheers.
What I find interesting is that they still had 3cheers as null yet didn't question why 3cheers was seen as a Top TR in Poly's readslist:

{TheWabbit, Crimson97, 3cheersforidiots}
{kosmo16, Jabichuelas, lemonader666}
{dota2reporter, UzayAltay, ScarredSamurai}
{SparkingJayYT, cob709, HelloSither}

explain kosmo, scarred, sparking, and hellosither

- Later they jot 3cheers as a Townlean with no explanation

Rest of the iso is bland in terms of interactions, chances of w/w is very possible.
Tonewise to each other they were consistently casually talking

ho boy, you're starting to convince me that Wabbit was trying to buddy me
what has the world come to

[SparkingJay]

Quiet.

VC?

[3cheersforidiots]

I think lemon can go back in my scumlean category as well
- posts 'just noticed JK is indecisive' - meaning he was looking at rolecards despite not being too engaged with the thread overall; following Sparking's logic of 'scum is more likely to be analyse the RCs and setup for strategy,' this can easily be a scumtell (again, combined with overall thread presence that follows)
- clears Jabi based on a 'slip' of sorts
- has an initial v read on Wabbit, then flip-flops over his slot many times during his ISO - does vote him at one point, then once again agrees with him in his following post; also has casual convos but not really a meaningful conversation
- same happens with Samurai, more or less
- has a random townread on me which then goes unexplained

taking into account the current thread temperature (which, at the moment, is suspicious towards Wabbit), I think it is possible for lemon/Wabbit to be a scumteam
I'm not sure how this would go spew-wise, but I'm tempted to say w!lemon -> w!Wabbit is how it goes

[3cheersforidiots]

I'm pretty sure I'm being ignored

[SparkingJay]

I think lemon can go back in my scumlean category as well
- posts 'just noticed JK is indecisive' - meaning he was looking at rolecards despite not being too engaged with the thread overall; following Sparking's logic of 'scum is more likely to be analyse the RCs and setup for strategy,' this can easily be a scumtell (again, combined with overall thread presence that follows)
- clears Jabi based on a 'slip' of sorts
- has an initial v read on Wabbit, then flip-flops over his slot many times during his ISO - does vote him at one point, then once again agrees with him in his following post; also has casual convos but not really a meaningful conversation
- same happens with Samurai, more or less
- has a random townread on me which then goes unexplained

taking into account the current thread temperature (which, at the moment, is suspicious towards Wabbit), I think it is possible for lemon/Wabbit to be a scumteam
I'm not sure how this would go spew-wise, but I'm tempted to say w!lemon -> w!Wabbit is how it goes

Doesn't exactly work that way, I read the OP as either alignment. Only works with people that aren't aware of information in the OP
Rest I will need to read context.

[SparkingJay]

3cheers where is your vote at atm?

[UzayAltay]

hm
/vote Wabbit

also ftr 3cheers Wabbit's reachy read on Uzay's entrance was terrible.

Yeah and What was Wabbit's agenda with that?
I refuse to vote Wabbit Unless You come up with an agenda read, which I couldn't find for now.

Get you pushed?
If we are talking about the same post I think it's likely they tried to pull a SFM70, the read was very reachy and made little to no sense from wolf mindset.

Yes
But Pushing me is not The agenda.
For example, in that SFM and standart Game, Wabbit played Directly to Mislynch me, while engage outside of that minimally.
At there, they had some ideas on everything. Even though they didnt engage at other scumreads , they gave multiple scumreads and townreads, which is somewhat different.
Only thing I can see is A steamroll kind of plan, but still , Wabbit didnt felt Like trying to mislynch me Unless for some reason they decided to Take no support from their buddies.

[UzayAltay]

Wabbit/3cheers in Wabbits ISO:
- First 2 pages no interactions besides Wabbit keeping 3cheers as null
- 3rd page only association is calling an interaction between Hello/3cheers v/v
- 4th page nothing besides game unrelated talk and Wabbit talking about Uzay's vote on 3cheers.
What I find interesting is that they still had 3cheers as null yet didn't question why 3cheers was seen as a Top TR in Poly's readslist:

{TheWabbit, Crimson97, 3cheersforidiots}
{kosmo16, Jabichuelas, lemonader666}
{dota2reporter, UzayAltay, ScarredSamurai}
{SparkingJayYT, cob709, HelloSither}

explain kosmo, scarred, sparking, and hellosither

- Later they jot 3cheers as a Townlean with no explanation

Rest of the iso is bland in terms of interactions, chances of w/w is very possible.
Tonewise to each other they were consistently casually talking

ho boy, you're starting to convince me that Wabbit was trying to buddy me
what has the world come to

Uhh
İnterestingly I thought The Opposite.