Hellosither wrote:Hellosither - maybe town? UzayAltay, SparkingJayYT - slight town inclination TheWabbit, cob709, Jabichuelas, polypies73, 3cheersforidiots - very slight town inclination kosmo16, dota2reporter, lemonader666, Crimson97, ScarredSamurai - heavy uncertainty (probably very slight scum inclination in virtue of my other town leans)
Why am I your top scumread if you haven't even quoted any of my posts nor mentioned why I was scum
Besides that explain Crimson, lemon and Kosmo scumreads. And explain Uzay, Polypies Town read please.
UzayAltay wrote:Wabbit If I had thought You as >scum I would say. Seriously Why you would thought If I made A similar mistake?
if you have no valid conclusion from your excessive nitpicking of said list then why bother mentioning it multiple times unless of course you just wanted to shade me
No I have a decisive conclusion. Your that reads shouldn't be followed.
Or More clearly, I didnt wanna discredit You, I wanna discredit your reads.
that's the exact same thing are you dumb
Bruh Discredit player: Hey look that player is scum Discredit player's reads: Hey look there is a player that I dont know their alignment but their reads suck.
Like how that two is even similar?
it's like you don't even know what "discredit" means
or even just how pivotal reads are
quite frankly i don't think you're playing FM right now
Jabichuelas wrote:honestly I don't know if Uzay is trying to mislead us or if he's being towny in his own unique way and assuming we all understand i'll eat my words if that's not the case tho
if you asked me, I think no one but him was that "interested" in the line of discussion caused by Wabbit's middle bracket, and that leads to your vote on 3cheers being kinda weird it was wabbit's choice to put the reads that way, and 3cheers isn't wrong about the first posts being NAI except yours, which wasn't NAI at the time the discussion happened because of the confusion with the emojis
I was also curious about how hello was core with only two posts, but I quickly assumed that was just a matter of perspectives that I wasn't too smart to understand
uzay isn't town with his approach
v!uzay builds the gamestate with others, providing his own input and arguing on things he disagrees on-- with the occasional push when he finds enough ground to wolfread someone this game he's just being overly nitpicky and proceeds to make foul arguments and shade.
Jabichuelas wrote:alright, I should go to bed soon so I'll post my reads tomorrow, sorry for the delay
What I'll do instead of posting reads though is be pushy /vote polypies73
I have yet to see something towny from them (except maybe objecting to wabbit's read on lemon? but everything else is just... oddly vague), and I've seen more than one person asking dota why is poly on his towncore. imo Dota is still fine to me outside of this topic, but I feel he should elaborate more.
I'm not pushing for a quick answer, I just wanna have discussion take this path. And ofc I don't want to lynch yet then again im the one who doesn't know anyone's meta so idk if this is normal in poly
That's a weird reason to vote someone. Do you see anything scummy in poly yourself?
was it weird to vote poly? I mean, maybe, but I felt like I had to place a vote on someone (to show what I think, to make up for not showing reads yet), and I thought that we might get somewhere if that someone were poly.
to answer your question I do see scummy stuff like the jokes at the start being somewhat forced (no offense) or him saying wabbit's core was perfect, which included me in it and my question about the no kill credits, related to the mechanics of the game, and nothing else really
I know others also townread me for that, hence my previous "townie reaction", but I felt like I shouldn't intervene too much on the reads made on me. Now's a good time since it bugs me off how poly agreed as well
I was also getting Dota's attention because he townread poly for his take on sparking, but at the time I didn't really think it was that serious considering his attitude this game, and to make up for that I figured I'd ask him to elaborate
Cause you're using others' reads to decide who to vote. You don't HAVE to place a vote if you don't have anyone you feel like voting.
I felt like I had to place a vote on someone (to show what I think, to make up for not showing reads yet)
This part especially sounds like scum mentality, but i also get you're new and it could also be just that.
Hellosither wrote:Hellosither - maybe town? UzayAltay, SparkingJayYT - slight town inclination TheWabbit, cob709, Jabichuelas, polypies73, 3cheersforidiots - very slight town inclination kosmo16, dota2reporter, lemonader666, Crimson97, ScarredSamurai - heavy uncertainty (probably very slight scum inclination in virtue of my other town leans)
pick three from {kosmo16, dota2reporter, lemonader666, Crimson97, ScarredSamurai}
@3cheers I had better say that to you. I am suspecting from You. It was mainly Gut , and that defense on Wabbit felt me as A pocket attempt, which caused A vote. Now, I am backing to Hello Because they Overall feels bad, and I Do not have much More on You. But You can be sure I'll jump back to you If I can become More sure. Take that as A warning. Or Dont , You know.
smells opportunistic in here
Care to elaborate?
UzayAltay wrote:For example I think your post in Sparking/3cheers were towny. Do I think now you are town?
honestly, based on your previous posts, this read doesn't make much sense Yeah it Dont make sense out of its context. Can I ask your comment about it in context, and Why You decide to Take it out-of-context?
I am 90% sure this is random.org Is This A " I'm sure but cannot prove" kind of thing, or Do You have any justification in mind?
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Hellosither wrote:guys i think im mafia.
umm What?
w!hellosither → w!uzay
I'd argue this only increases scum equity for Uzay, actually
Care to explain?
literally either proposition can be explained by:
TheWabbit wrote:it's a wolfy pop-in and sounds like wolf theater hence the w->w read
but the wolf equity proposition is just a pussy version
meow So was that a sheep of Wabbit's reads?
Hellosither wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Wabbit If I had thought You as >scum I would say. Seriously Why you would thought If I made A similar mistake?
if you have no valid conclusion from your excessive nitpicking of said list then why bother mentioning it multiple times unless of course you just wanted to shade me
No I have a decisive conclusion. Your that reads shouldn't be followed.
Or More clearly, I didnt wanna discredit You, I wanna discredit your reads.
that's the exact same thing are you dumb
i think its pretty safe to say this is not w/w.
I think it has a decent chance to be TvS, in fact Explain.
(My words in bold)
I don't know. You seemed convinced my reads were made from random.org from theseposts. Why the sudden disbelief that the other isn't?
Jabichuelas wrote:meh, if the reads help then great fourth line was originally the null one but i thought having only 2 SRs was lame so i assumed i was being too nice and removed the null afterwards, hopefully the reads will be bound to change
they haven't done that much except mindmeld with my early townreads, talk about a dream, and being self-aware that they haven't done much this game
yeah, i wasn't too interested in his contributions but rather in the way he plays, specially tone he sounds truthful and wanting to get somewhere imo (even if that failed?), and when he mentioned stuff like "finding it hard to make a towncore" or "having his own way to read people" i felt we were on the same boat. It helped that I already know him a bit.
I have yet to read what he thinks of poly now, and there are still a few things that are off with him that I can't remember right now because of it not being my main focus, but it didn't come to me to put him in the bracket below. funny thing, I had a thought about spreading my readlist even more and make a seventh bracket just for him, but no.
TheWabbit wrote:i'd question cob solo'ing that bracket but they have VI equity
VI means village idiot or something like that?
yeah im aware they're too dispersed gotta go now though, will elaborate later sry
his overly optimistic and wishy washy tone is his FM philosophy so that's not something i'd attribute as his town trait
too bad you're not getting anything like my XX7 play ever again unless of course i get tired of mafia and get overly cranky ----- how strong is your wolfread on hellosither?
The post where I said he was lockscum wasn't completely serious but I generally disliked how he was just deliberately trying to achieve nothing from his interactions, I guess cob is in a similar light but he seems more clueless than anything.
It's something that resolves in mid-game. Should be as early as D2 to avoid nuisances.
lemonader666 wrote:I'm frozen scum and also tired Uhhh It seems with the trend of the meta poly is safe for today I guess when town inevitably CFDs I'd be against 3cheers and cob but I haven't examiined the thread thoroughly See y'all at EoD
Jabichuelas wrote:honestly I don't know if Uzay is trying to mislead us or if he's being towny in his own unique way and assuming we all understand i'll eat my words if that's not the case tho
if you asked me, I think no one but him was that "interested" in the line of discussion caused by Wabbit's middle bracket, and that leads to your vote on 3cheers being kinda weird it was wabbit's choice to put the reads that way, and 3cheers isn't wrong about the first posts being NAI except yours, which wasn't NAI at the time the discussion happened because of the confusion with the emojis
I was also curious about how hello was core with only two posts, but I quickly assumed that was just a matter of perspectives that I wasn't too smart to understand
uzay isn't town with his approach
v!uzay builds the gamestate with others, providing his own input and arguing on things he disagrees on-- with the occasional push when he finds enough ground to wolfread someone this game he's just being overly nitpicky and proceeds to make foul arguments and shade.
no.
Really? I don't believe you.
How You can not believe A before thing? You claim I Did these things, I am saying I didnt. If I really Did these, Why not bother showing these to Everyone?
@3cheers I had better say that to you. I am suspecting from You. It was mainly Gut , and that defense on Wabbit felt me as A pocket attempt, which caused A vote. Now, I am backing to Hello Because they Overall feels bad, and I Do not have much More on You. But You can be sure I'll jump back to you If I can become More sure. Take that as A warning. Or Dont , You know.
smells opportunistic in here
Care to elaborate?
UzayAltay wrote:For example I think your post in Sparking/3cheers were towny. Do I think now you are town?
honestly, based on your previous posts, this read doesn't make much sense Yeah it Dont make sense out of its context. Can I ask your comment about it in context, and Why You decide to Take it out-of-context?
I am 90% sure this is random.org Is This A " I'm sure but cannot prove" kind of thing, or Do You have any justification in mind?
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Hellosither wrote:guys i think im mafia.
umm What?
w!hellosither → w!uzay
I'd argue this only increases scum equity for Uzay, actually
Care to explain?
literally either proposition can be explained by:
TheWabbit wrote:it's a wolfy pop-in and sounds like wolf theater hence the w->w read
but the wolf equity proposition is just a pussy version
meow So was that a sheep of Wabbit's reads?
Hellosither wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Wabbit If I had thought You as >scum I would say. Seriously Why you would thought If I made A similar mistake?
if you have no valid conclusion from your excessive nitpicking of said list then why bother mentioning it multiple times unless of course you just wanted to shade me
No I have a decisive conclusion. Your that reads shouldn't be followed.
Or More clearly, I didnt wanna discredit You, I wanna discredit your reads.
that's the exact same thing are you dumb
i think its pretty safe to say this is not w/w.
I think it has a decent chance to be TvS, in fact Explain.
(My words in bold)
I don't know. You seemed convinced my reads were made from random.org from theseposts. Why the sudden disbelief that the other isn't?
Is it because they labeled you town?
I believed that Because You misplaced some players, which I explained shortly after that accusation. I am Asking If they had any similar , or different reason, or is it just a belief?
@3cheers I had better say that to you. I am suspecting from You. It was mainly Gut , and that defense on Wabbit felt me as A pocket attempt, which caused A vote. Now, I am backing to Hello Because they Overall feels bad, and I Do not have much More on You. But You can be sure I'll jump back to you If I can become More sure. Take that as A warning. Or Dont , You know.
smells opportunistic in here
Care to elaborate?
UzayAltay wrote:For example I think your post in Sparking/3cheers were towny. Do I think now you are town?
honestly, based on your previous posts, this read doesn't make much sense Yeah it Dont make sense out of its context. Can I ask your comment about it in context, and Why You decide to Take it out-of-context?
I am 90% sure this is random.org Is This A " I'm sure but cannot prove" kind of thing, or Do You have any justification in mind?
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Hellosither wrote:guys i think im mafia.
umm What?
w!hellosither → w!uzay
I'd argue this only increases scum equity for Uzay, actually
Care to explain?
literally either proposition can be explained by:
TheWabbit wrote:it's a wolfy pop-in and sounds like wolf theater hence the w->w read
but the wolf equity proposition is just a pussy version
meow So was that a sheep of Wabbit's reads?
Hellosither wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Wabbit If I had thought You as >scum I would say. Seriously Why you would thought If I made A similar mistake?
if you have no valid conclusion from your excessive nitpicking of said list then why bother mentioning it multiple times unless of course you just wanted to shade me
No I have a decisive conclusion. Your that reads shouldn't be followed.
Or More clearly, I didnt wanna discredit You, I wanna discredit your reads.
that's the exact same thing are you dumb
i think its pretty safe to say this is not w/w.
I think it has a decent chance to be TvS, in fact Explain.
(My words in bold)
I don't know. You seemed convinced my reads were made from random.org from theseposts. Why the sudden disbelief that the other isn't?
Is it because they labeled you town?
I believed that Because You misplaced some players, which I explained shortly after that accusation. I am Asking If they had any similar , or different reason, or is it just a belief?
I'd say your posts speak otherwise, but I'll leave that for a minute later.
Jabichuelas wrote:honestly I don't know if Uzay is trying to mislead us or if he's being towny in his own unique way and assuming we all understand i'll eat my words if that's not the case tho
if you asked me, I think no one but him was that "interested" in the line of discussion caused by Wabbit's middle bracket, and that leads to your vote on 3cheers being kinda weird it was wabbit's choice to put the reads that way, and 3cheers isn't wrong about the first posts being NAI except yours, which wasn't NAI at the time the discussion happened because of the confusion with the emojis
I was also curious about how hello was core with only two posts, but I quickly assumed that was just a matter of perspectives that I wasn't too smart to understand
uzay isn't town with his approach
v!uzay builds the gamestate with others, providing his own input and arguing on things he disagrees on-- with the occasional push when he finds enough ground to wolfread someone this game he's just being overly nitpicky and proceeds to make foul arguments and shade.
no.
Really? I don't believe you.
How You can not believe A before thing? You claim I Did these things, I am saying I didnt. If I really Did these, Why not bother showing these to Everyone?
this list is trash you have three underperforming players on the list and one i can discount to null at most
I think you are just jealous that you didn't make the list
Cob, explained Kosmo is still gut v Uzay was gut v but I like their attempts at solving in 3cheers/Hello Poly, explained Samurai, liked their stand-out entrance especially in the first sentence. Spoiler:
ScarredSamurai wrote:Im hardclaiming villager to start the game off. If you follow my reads throughout the game town is bound to win! Everyone who opposes me is but a mortal and/or scum!
Now quick follow me and vote Lemonader666! They literally have the godforsaken devil in their name!
SparkingJayYT wrote:Since Cob didn’t answer my question I’m just going to assume he is new by his recent posts and that it doesn’t resemble noobmafia being coached on how to play, he sounds more lost in thread atm
i get what ur saying but i also feel like i havent seen enough of them to make a significant judgement.
They lack any real direction this game, wdym
im saying its too early to make the call that their lack of direction is town indicative imo. theirs a large chance their hypothetical mafia buddies dont dictate much of what theyve said so far.
You would expect Mafia buddies to help a new player out not just throw them out to the wilderness with nothing
Nah: I had my ground argument, whether You Like or Dont Like it. That'd : I cannot see any Foul argument at there. Are You okay? 0/2 literally, be: Wabbit is your making reads in risk d1 towny? If Yes Than You can accuse me of with shading from there (although I think it is NAI for You ), If no Than what? 0.5/3 . too: You must be joking. 0.5/4. Literally Nothing there. boring: stop. You are literally stating an opinion on A thing You have no idea What they are. Seriously, guess What it is correctly and I'll give You A free vote (E.g. Sheep You ) until either of us is lynched. I am that sure You cannot guess it. 0.5/5 Takes: I'm stopping there Because I Dont think rest of posts Will change anything. Seriously What's wrong on that post?
You have The time until I reveal it to have a guess. Which means not much time. Good luck.
Wabbit shouldn't be trusted for placing 3cheersforidiots and kosmo16 in the "didn't post yet" bracket, okay? Oh, I don't think they're scum. I don't think they're town either. I don't know. The only thing that I can yearn for is to try and press on Wabbit in hopes that this'll be an easy repeat of XX7. By the way, I'll "reveal" my reads in a very easy to read format:
![[Forum Mafia XVIII] Winner](./images/ranks/flair-fm18.png "[Forum Mafia XVIII] Winner")
![[Forum Mafia XV] Winner](./images/ranks/flair-fm15.png "[Forum Mafia XV] Winner")
