XX8 | KH:FM.2 | Endgame (Darkness Within Darkness)

[SparkingJay]

Town played very well first 2 days, witching Doctor was unlucky.

D2 I had no time to react to 5 votes out of nowhere on me, pretty insane chain votes.

also ty Kosmo for the compliments lol

[3cheersforidiots]

also I'm actually somewhat glad I was the N1 kill because I would have prodged hard D2 and like half of D3

[SparkingJay]

Hindsight Jackson should have either:
- Claimed someone was Mafia within [Debil/ED/Kosmo]
- Claimed someone was Witch within [Uzay/Kosmo]

Not analysing the risks of claiming EvilD was Witch was a fair mistake to make.

[UzayAltay]

Wait did I gamesolve for town with misthinking the scum team?
Damn.
Gg to everyone, thanks Wabbit for hosting.

Spoiler:

June 13:
UzayAltay:
Can I ask What happens in the hypotectical scenario where I controlled town redirector Who sent action "Player X -->Player Y " to
a) Player Z
b) Myself

And is it possible to force non-visiting roles to visit?

Wabbit:
uh
for the sake of convenience, all redirectors are redirect immune
ECO somehow reflects this as well
UzayAltay:
(An emoji mean okay)
Wabbit:
as for visits
you can't force a non-visiting role to visit Someone
UzayAltay:
Okay
Thanks.
Wabbit:
yw

June 15: _________________________________________
Wabbit:
just curious, who do you think is mafia in XX8?
this may or may not have anything to do with a bingo card
UzayAltay:
I need to remember and Check some things to answer that
(By The way can You confirm You took my action?)
Wabbit:
I did
UzayAltay:
I wasn't expecting Chemist to flip Mafia , though . I only found their attidude at EOD iffy but it wasn't too bad IMO . Actually I wasn't planning to read them early but whatever. It was a bad EOD for scum, therefore me .
Wabbit:
definitely a bad start
especially that chemist's mafia head
UzayAltay:
I immedieatly realized Zorua is redirector So
they are town.
Is my realizing due to me being Witch that have Same confusion for a second? Maybe Anyway I hope kosmo is vig as I thought .
Dota is probably town.
3cheers wouldnt Do The Same thing with Last Game , town probs Also.
Wabbit:
assuming zorua is a real redirector
if ever both of you target the same person you get priority
UzayAltay:
Oh Okay Thanks for information
(mechanical information)
Wabbit:
mhm
i feel like it's gonna be a question in the future
UzayAltay:
I wasn't very interested in Asking This Because I Dont Expect Zorua to control kosmo anyway.
Only reason I am controlling them is I think they are vig.
Wabbit:
spicy
but yeah i dont think town redirector and witch would ever overlok
UzayAltay:
Crimson is , there are some people pushes them but I think they are likelier to be town
Wabbit:
since town redirector usually redirects scunreads/nullreads
while witch goes for the townreads
UzayAltay:
TBH I would be hella suprised if it is Murat/Cenvil/Elusive. But I think I Get 1/3 or 2/3 there. These three are my scumreads.
Though I need to Look their attidudes toward EOD .
Overall, I think Maf-team is Elusive/watchme +1 or Murat/Cenvil +1.
Main reason I suspect watchme was their d1 felt underwhelming but I didn't want to point out to not push 4 people together.
Wabbit:
mhm, thanks

June 16:
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UzayAltay:
TBH At one moment I thought Cenvil flipped Mafia due to red colour and I was like, "oh, no."
Wabbit:
mood
UzayAltay:
So
There is A vig
And it is not kosmo
Mhm
I may be able to PoE The vig today
Which would be very good
Wabbit:
good luck on that
UzayAltay:
TBH First name came my mind is Elusive
And second name is Dota
Wabbit:
as vig/PR?
interesting
UzayAltay:
As vig
I Dont plan finding other PRs atm.
I Also Dont think We have a vet, so...
Wabbit:
mmm

June 18:
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UzayAltay:
Actually, after A rethought
Dota's SoD2 read was made N1 probably, which means they are not vig
Crimson is either playing big or not vig
My #1 suspect is Hello for vig atm
UzayAltay:
Actually sparking is also a big candidate

June 19:
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Wabbit:
interesting

UzayAltay:
Good luck at counting votes
UzayAltay:
Bruh What was Sparking Mafia?
Wabbit:
regrettably
I'm really shocked that CFD ender to scum
UzayAltay:
Like
Why they didn't claim?
I was just expecting a TvT there
I should find a good kill target with controlling Crimson
They might be vet but I had no choice to not risk it, Mafia is melting Day by day
I'll probably hope Mafia goes Zorua, and 'll Go to kill Dota
Wabbit:
nice
dead mafia's rooting for you
UzayAltay:
TBH I Like playing as NE
Wabbit:
NE kills me
UzayAltay:
Because it is just "play as town and Than hope my reads are wrong while town follow me, or vice versa"
Wabbit:
mhm
It's easier to blend in as well
because you have no info
UzayAltay:
Yeah
Though at my First NE Game mafia signalled me unintentionally
And it was much stressful when You know some Mafia members
Do town has to kill me after All core Mafia is dead?
Wabbit:no
if you can still prevent town from winning the game doesn't end
otherwise game ends even if you're alive
-skipping a few lines when I dont understand something and Wabbit clarified it to me-

UzayAltay: Just hoping Dota is A PR and I Dont crosskill with Mafia atm
TBH If I can Get The kill now
9v3 it is
It is 3 ML, which is winnable with good Way play
Though I have no idea about Mafia's positions on the Day
Like only thing went good So far is TP dying
I'll Look Sparking's D2 in case they decided to signal 3cheers' role for some reason.
UzayAltay:
https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=109430&p=3464131#3464131
Maybe that post softs 3cheers was a PR?
Irk there is not an obvious signal
They probably did not signal, as expected.

June 20:
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UzayAltay:
What happens If TrPa is controlled when they try to remember?
And can TrPa remember a Cleaned role?

June 21:
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Wabbit:
trpa fails in remembering
TrPa cannot remember cleaned roles
UzayAltay:
1)Jackson is doing A FPS again
2) Mafia have disguiser who disguised ED with me

/pick my poison
/pick 1
Mhm I think I solved the game
Jackson/Debil are remaining Mafias (Debil Because their signal)
I was planning to claim TrPa to Get out of This but A better plan may be just allow Mafia to make their play
3cheers was probably A PR as well, but which one?
Can doctor heal multiple attacks at Same target ?

June 22
_________________________________________
Wabbit:
yes

June 23
_________________________________________
UzayAltay:
Nice
8v3 mhm
TBH I need to Go with The assumption of Jackson/Debil scum team E.g. Trust my reads
And I also think watchme may be Bg rather Than doc
Wabbit:
hope you find a way to coordinate with mafia somehow
UzayAltay: Yeah I am looking for it
TBH Debil may win If they stay solo with cits. There are good ML materials.
I may control Cenvil to HTC as a safe action, but If Crimson is smart they would send a shot, which may damage us.
Wabbit: Cenvil is dead?
UzayAltay: I mean soul

June 24:
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UzayAltay:
Jackson: I was witched into somewhat that only Cenvil visited.
Me:WTF?
Seriously, (assuming Jackson is scum), why not wait at least until HTC claimed? Like you Dont know what Witch did, and saying action/night result as LO claim?

UzayAltay:
https://imgflip.com/i/4675z3
UzayAltay:
Can JK RB'ed ?
Wabbit:jk can be RB'ed
UzayAltay: Can you tell that to Mafia?
Wabbit:lmao

June 25
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https://www.blankmediagames.com/phbbb/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=109430&sid=514adbd7beec494952adcc5c897ddbf9&start=3625#p3470173
lmao to both posts there.
TBH when Crimson posted that, my First reaction was (umm... It is What I thought exactly)
UzayAltay:
1 more ML We need
Both Debil and Jackson is playing better Than town at that point
I'd ask What happens If town redirector tries to control consist tries to RB them, but If I got the last soft right, Jackson is consort. And HTG wont control them.

Wabbit:
Let me make it clear
PlayerA= town redirector
Player B= consort
Player C= cit
B roleblocks A
A redirects B to C
would that be right for the situation?
UzayAltay: Yeah that's what I ask
Wabbit: A is roleblocked and B isn't notified of anything.
UzayAltay:
Okay
Thanks.
Soul can try RBing an actual person.
That allows me to control Crimson.
If I am right, Mafia wont get any risks and RB HTG .
Extra kill of vig is not important.
But it is important to waste that shot to prevent an extra townkill.
If Soul blocks Debil, and out, game can easily turn around.
My play is preventing that basicly.
Wabbit:
ideally you 'd want to have scum the most game control.
UzayAltay:Ideally scum already had enough game control and I should just prevent town turning it around.
Wabbit:mmm
UzayAltay:
I am controlling Crimson. Jackson may make a claim from there.
Controlling them to Soul. That's due to prevent the possibility Soul blocking Debil, outing it.
For some reason I keep saying Cenvil to Soul.
Wabbit: I can see why you 'd confuse them with each other.

June 27:
_____________________________
UzayAltay:
Wait so
If vig dont try to shoot
Than I cant control them into killing?
Wabbit:pretty much

[watchme1]

also I'm actually somewhat glad I was the N1 kill because I would have prodged hard D2 and like half of D3

you can thank zorua for that one :upside-down smiley:

[3cheersforidiots]

also I'm actually somewhat glad I was the N1 kill because I would have prodged hard D2 and like half of D3

you can thank zorua for that one :upside-down smiley:

I honestly don't know what went on in Zorua's mind when she redirected you

[watchme1]

also I'm actually somewhat glad I was the N1 kill because I would have prodged hard D2 and like half of D3

you can thank zorua for that one :upside-down smiley:

I honestly don't know what went on in Zorua's mind when she redirected you

The tinfoil was that scum!me would be spewed town from the chemist wagon last minute vote therefore i would be free to do whatever the fuck i wanted as scum. Thing is scum!me never busses chem there ever cause i personally think it's 100% not worth it

[lemonader666]

LITERALLY NOT ONE, BUT TWO PEOPLE TINFOILED ME HAVING BEEN TI MORE OR LESS AS SOON AS JACKSON'S CLAIM CAME UP
NOBODY THOUGHT TO LOOK INTO JUST HOW CONVENIENT JACKSON'S SUPPOSED LO TARGETS WERE, NOR THAT SHE LITERALLY RETRACTED HER CLAIMS AT SOD WHEN SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T ALIGN WITH HER GUESSES CAME UP
EVERY TIME SOMEBODY THOUGHT I MIGHT HAVE BEEN TI? THE THOUGHT GOT IMMEDIATELY DISMISSED BECAUSE LOLFM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHEN WILL Y'ALL LEARN NOT TO TRUST WHATEVER JACKSON SAYS


in any case, town played well during the last day/maybe 2 days, though the lollynches of Elusive and murat were truly questionable
alright, I'm okay now, carry on

F

[Crimson97]

Well that EoD was something.

[Chemist1422]

this game was a rollercoaster in the worst way

[dota2reporter]

this game was a rollercoaster in the worst way

why'd you ragequit out of the server?

[Soulshade55r]

Potato carries town ty

[Chemist1422]

this game was a rollercoaster in the worst way

why'd you ragequit out of the server?

was near server limit and didn't care enough about following along to stay

[heytheregirl17]

I was a spinny boi and that is all I care about

[TheDebil]

yeah mafia had very good kills. 3cheers and hello i saw as most formidable town. the rest tend to have some problems. uzay is good but people dont listen to him due to his english, dota is good but he throws towncore almost for free, im very erratic and barely read, ect

uzay was witch tho

how would mafia know

[JacksonVirgo]

Hindsight Jackson should have either:
- Claimed someone was Mafia within [Debil/ED/Kosmo]
- Claimed someone was Witch within [Uzay/Kosmo]

Not analysing the risks of claiming EvilD was Witch was a fair mistake to make.

If I were to do that with mafia I would have been contradicted since 2 mafia would have visited the redirector. So either A. Bus Potato or B. Try to throw two town under. The second would have probably failed.

For the second one, yeah I was considering that but chose wrong.

[ZoruaLuhansk]

I'm just going to sneak in here and claim my perfect voting record
just
ignore my night actions

[Soulshade55r]

Bruh I was on point that uzay was a bad man also pushing jackson at the end I hard carried all of you weebs

if it weren't for me you'd all be losers

[UzayAltay]

Bruh I was on point that uzay was a bad man also pushing jackson at the end I hard carried all of you weebs

if it weren't for me you'd all be losers

Umm
I think noone except kosmo got my role rght
And even though kosmo's read on me was right, their reasons were wrong (For example thinking I would Do A TvS read Like that ) . I think they felt something has been wrong with my EOD 2 play, but linked it to wrong place, which lead an argument that is wrong. It normally didnt cause damage on my situation.

[Crimson97]

this game was a rollercoaster in the worst way

why'd you ragequit out of the server?

That's something that made me not want to lynch Potato. If it was planned, Chemist wouldn't have ragequit. I just didn't want to say itcause angleshoot.

[Chemist1422]

(it wasn't planned)

[TheDebil]

this game was a rollercoaster in the worst way

why'd you ragequit out of the server?

That's something that made me not want to lynch Potato. If it was planned, Chemist wouldn't have ragequit. I just didn't want to say itcause angleshoot.

sounds pretty NAI i'd reckon if he was salty he would be salty regardless who was on the wagon

[3cheersforidiots]

I'm just going to sneak in here and claim my perfect voting record
just
ignore my night actions

why did you redirect watchme

[JacksonVirgo]

Also I was super duper scared to claim LO because I always do as scum uwu

[JacksonVirgo]

Also I was super duper scared to claim LO because I always do as scum uwu

That or tracker