VFM 69 |Pick Your Poison| Game Over! (Mafia Wins!)

[TheWabbit]

This catch up makes me want to go dunk my head in the fucking sand.

Debil and wabbit are both doing the thing where they pwn the libs with facts and logic when really there’s some straw mans in there

Like
Debil’s reaction to dota’s wall
Debil said basically “you have a tone read. I disagree with that tone read. Therefore your tone read is invalid. Get fucked stop being bad”
It’s just cringe

Wabbit doing the same thing with dota iirc like
You can’t say “show me evidence for your gut tone read otherwise go back to nfm”
That’s not how this works
That’s not how any of this works.

nfm thing is entirely separate from dota's burden of proof
how did you get that wrong even after i clarified it with dota

[TheWabbit]

Especially if you’re just going to throw out spicy takes like
“X is probably wolf but we’re not ready for that yet”
Yes there’s reaction testing in there and other stuff but maybe, just maybe, they’re prioritizing being loud over actually scum hunting

What a concept

i'm not scumhunting at all right now
kinda experimenting in the sidelines

[TheWabbit]

Dota mate
I’m strongly considering wagoning you

But these cases against you are fucking bad

how did you get the impression that i'm pushing for w!dota
there's absolutely nothing there except probably alienation

[TheWabbit]

I’m also pissed because I genuinely can’t follow wabbit’s arguments because he’s writing them emotionally rather than taking time to outline an easily readable thing

Like

Mate gimme those one like posts with self encapsulated points please

????????????????????????

[TheWabbit]

This catch up makes me want to go dunk my head in the fucking sand.

Debil and wabbit are both doing the thing where they pwn the libs with facts and logic when really there’s some straw mans in there

Like
Debil’s reaction to dota’s wall
Debil said basically “you have a tone read. I disagree with that tone read. Therefore your tone read is invalid. Get fucked stop being bad”
It’s just cringe

Wabbit doing the same thing with dota iirc like
You can’t say “show me evidence for your gut tone read otherwise go back to nfm”
That’s not how this works
That’s not how any of this works.

his tone read is based on things that are easily nai
and im afraid hes biased because they are friends
similar to how he is afraid to push you simply because he thinks you are nice

i'm not pushing ryan for being underwhelming because they're outside my focal point

[TheWabbit]

it's a sign that I'm not paying enough attention that ryan's takes are going completely over my head right

no

[ryanyb]

I tend to associate getting angry and pissy with people as a degree of a wolf read
Lmao
Don’t act like it’s not

If you’re pissy and angry and they refuse to talk with you over stuff you disagree with... like
Mate

[TheWabbit]

fwog reads like a bootleg wabbit
/vote fwog
we dont need 2
im already bullied i wont be able to take it anymore

i have to admit, "bootleg wabbit" sounds hilarious
props to you for that

if the difference is that wabbit actually plays the game I'll knock your lights out

wabbit is trying to be clever and you just seem irrationally angry
get fucked

pirate headass

third rate

[TheWabbit]

dota why are you playing like abstract again

i don't see anything wrong with that though? if they find playing closer as abstract than they usually do (i can't disassociate the wishy-washy to dota's character so i tend to view them a bit askew)

[TheWabbit]

Townreads
ARandomDouche--Acting virtually the same they did last game in which they were Vet
Sparking--Also based on a past game
ryanb--They seem natural, making common-sense responses to other players' posts.

IDK
ejjinami--opening seemed forced, but otherwise, they're active and contributing.
Wabbit--I'm not even gonna try to read this guy, I'll leave it to the experts.
dota--are they always this nice? I need to read other games to make sure, it probably is AI. (Thanks for being nice tho )
Uzay--Is always scum, but there's no room in my scumpool so you can be IDK for now...
fwog--are they always this nonchalant? Need to read past games, slight scumlean for the cookies thing.
Chemist--I'm probably going to policy lynch him based on which Splatfest team he chose.

Scumreads
Manatee--Speculating about the cop feels like fishing for towncred to me, and they haven't really pushed anything else relevant.
Debil--Seems like they're trying to project confidence while also fluffing uselessly (Yes this is a 180 from before deal with it)
poly--the ISO is gross. It's all useless, occasionally LAMIST fluffing. They're posing shallow reads with no explanation.

Also Wabbit I don't gamestate, I just work (although probably not well). Deal with it.

no comment

wut

[TheWabbit]

douche potato and chemist is my towncore
chemist for literally no reason i just feel lucky today

what did you spin the wheel or something

nice try

[Chemist1422]

I tend to associate getting angry and pissy with people as a degree of a wolf read
Lmao
Don’t act like it’s not

If you’re pissy and angry and they refuse to talk with you over stuff you disagree with... like
Mate

honestly I've seen villagers do that more than wolves

[TheWabbit]

of course i'm all alone after th thread exploded before

that's less of a burnout than it is with schedule gaps

[ManateeDude]

there wasnt an issue with dotas playstyle it was a throwaway comment

[TheWabbit]

Spoiler:

fwog reads like a bootleg wabbit
/vote fwog
we dont need 2
im already bullied i wont be able to take it anymore

i have to admit, "bootleg wabbit" sounds hilarious
props to you for that

if the difference is that wabbit actually plays the game I'll knock your lights out

wabbit is trying to be clever and you just seem irrationally angry
get fucked

readlist:

ejjinami - scumread
very high post count, but most posts are memes and unrelated discussion. reads are shallow, usually ejji has much more indepth reads but these seem very bad, doesnt seem involved or motivated. overall seems like an awkward and distant slot.
manateedude - scumread
slot seems very unnoticeable, has rarely popped in to place a vote or make a random comment. and even tho you would expect them to make no reads and be lost for their activity they seem extremely aware of everything going on. i dont think i like this.
uzayaltay - scumread
literally claimed wolf in page 6, we dont need to discuss this any further. decent slot to vig if one exists.
wabbit - scumread
my track, i saw him visit eqzylootz last night. odds are he is scum more often than town simply because eqzy is a scummy slot and i dont see him healing it.
dota2reporter - scumread
gutread scum, has made some decent contributions but his overall vibe is off to me. dota is a player that i can usually read alright and this time i cant say hes town.
poly - scumread
very bad associations with uzay, vote on him feels forced and fake and i dont like the way they interacted so far. this is the most likely uzay buddy this game.
fwog - scumread
only made 4 posts so far, all of them shading me, yet i dont see a vote. i dont like this slot at all right now, but im tempted to not push it since it seems pretty dead.
douche - scumread
i reread his previous game and he feels almost identical to it. (he was scum) its not a big sample size of his meta, but i still feel town!douche would be slightly different.
sparking - scumread
a lot of awkward jokes, especially in memephase. later on he dies down, so to me it feels like he couldnt fit in to the thread early and lost a lot of steam. could be nai but im leaning scum based on gut
potato - scumread
claims to cc tracker, obviously fake so i think we should kill this. says i visited eqzy last night, but that doesnt make any sense to me, if i visited eqzy how would i know wabbit visited him and why is eqzy not dead either
ryanyb - scumread
him assuming town has tracker jk and vigi feels like tmi and im not sure how town would have this info and be this confident. he also claimed vig earlier and as we know i am the vigi.
chemist - scumread
0 poster, dead slot, but im ready to flip it since i feel like there will be no replacements and he will be modkilled anyway. therefore

/vote chemist1422

This is so epic

can i be confirmed town for totally AI effort now thanks

wh

[TheWabbit]

That’s not a no
>.>

no

i have proved i'm not a wolf

wrong

[polypies73]

That’s not a no
>.>

no

i have proved i'm not a wolf

wrong

shocking

[polypies73]

I tend to associate getting angry and pissy with people as a degree of a wolf read
Lmao
Don’t act like it’s not

If you’re pissy and angry and they refuse to talk with you over stuff you disagree with... like
Mate

honestly I've seen villagers do that more than wolves

can confirm

[TheWabbit]

Mbmb missed your ic claim
I’m kind of in the middle of nowhere so my internet keeps going out

wut

isn't that a joke

i cant wait for inno child to reveal to make things interesting

\rev oh whoops don't want to do that yet

[TheWabbit]

let's just put everyone as t / w / n so then you can start pushing me:

1. ejjinami - n. i don't get it
2. ManateeDude - t
3. TheDebil - t
4. UzayAltay - wtf w i guess
5. TheWabbit - t
6. Dota2Reporter - w?
7. Polypies73 - t
8. Fwogcarf - w
9. ARandomDouche - t i'm gonna buy that townslip
10. SparkingJayYT - t reads me correct every game or something
11. xXIllegalPotatoXx - n i should probably read their reads
12. Ryanyb - n just exists
13. Chemist1422 - t

why is dota w if you left wabbit/dota as t/t
what exactly about ejji makes you hesitate to lean them? i could understand with potato and ryan at this point
is fwog read legit or just an OMGUS

[TheWabbit]

Guys the entire game can’t keep neutral reading me
That’s been literally everyone’s stance

if that's the consensus read then you might be doing something wrong

[TheWabbit]

I tend to associate getting angry and pissy with people as a degree of a wolf read
Lmao
Don’t act like it’s not

If you’re pissy and angry and they refuse to talk with you over stuff you disagree with... like
Mate

what exactly do you want to converse about? i can expound on things i've said that you find lacking

[TheWabbit]

there wasnt an issue with dotas playstyle it was a throwaway comment

peon

[polypies73]

let's just put everyone as t / w / n so then you can start pushing me:

1. ejjinami - n. i don't get it
2. ManateeDude - t
3. TheDebil - t
4. UzayAltay - wtf w i guess
5. TheWabbit - t
6. Dota2Reporter - w?
7. Polypies73 - t
8. Fwogcarf - w
9. ARandomDouche - t i'm gonna buy that townslip
10. SparkingJayYT - t reads me correct every game or something
11. xXIllegalPotatoXx - n i should probably read their reads
12. Ryanyb - n just exists
13. Chemist1422 - t

why is dota w if you left wabbit/dota as t/t
what exactly about ejji makes you hesitate to lean them? i could understand with potato and ryan at this point
is fwog read legit or just an OMGUS

1 i'm sure you'll see already answered
i'm not used to them just quoting like every post.
also fwog tr's me so how is that omgus or what.

[ManateeDude]

there wasnt an issue with dotas playstyle it was a throwaway comment

peon

what the fuck is peon