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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 2:42 am

I'll go ahead and claim as well, not that it will change much.

I'm a 1-shot Tracker, and I was gonna track Sparking N2, but Uzay apparently rb'd me so I had no results. Thanks Uzay.

I also happen to have WIM, so I'll read the last few pages for realsies and maybe do ISO-diving as well.
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 2:50 am

Question to the crowd: has there been any roleblocks that are not accounted for by Zorua and Uzay?
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 2:53 am

theyellowgreninja wrote:(is it too late into the game to ask wtf 3p even means)

from what I gathered, it's sth like third-party killer, but don't quote me because I'm literally the least knowledgable here in mafia terminology
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun May 24, 2020 2:54 am

I’ll unvote for now since I gotta talk later and don’t want a self hammer
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun May 24, 2020 3:04 am

3cheersforidiots wrote:
theyellowgreninja wrote:(is it too late into the game to ask wtf 3p even means)

from what I gathered, it's sth like third-party killer, but don't quote me because I'm literally the least knowledgable here in mafia terminology

Doesn't mean killer at all. 3p is just third party. Like any Neutrals that aren't sided with the two main factions (Mafia and Town). That can be Jester/Serial Killer/Witch anything like that.
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun May 24, 2020 3:05 am

3cheersforidiots wrote:I'll go ahead and claim as well, not that it will change much.

I'm a 1-shot Tracker, and I was gonna track Sparking N2, but Uzay apparently rb'd me so I had no results. Thanks Uzay.

I also happen to have WIM, so I'll read the last few pages for realsies and maybe do ISO-diving as well.

Does that mean you've lost your shot? That's unfortunate.
If you still have it, why did you claim?
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 3:08 am

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3cheersforidiots wrote:Still haven't read the last few pages, but here's a few thoughts from my walk back home today:

1.) Crimson doesn't make sense as WW Bookie I don't see where the specific "that doesn't work" evidence is but honestly crimson could really just be any neutral role in my eyes

2.) If there are two mafia left, I can see a Jackson/Uzay scumteam happening That is spicy do tell, Jackson as maf is quite the take

3.) With regards to the redcheck, keep in mind that it is possible that
a) a framer-esque role is in play True
b) Sparking is a miller, unbeknownst to himself True
Buttttt, sparking's response to it all does not at all strike me as town or Neutral benign, and therefore lynching sparking is still a good plan in my eyes.

I say this because unless this is a bigbrain bs attempt from mafia to set Sparking up as the mafia hardcarry, I find it unlikely that he is mafia, in fact. He *is* a potential NK, but I don't really see him as mafia for reasons I think I have already explained on D3.

3cheersforidiots wrote:Sparking is most definitely not mafia imo, could be neutral but upon re-reading the thread, they are likely town. I ruled out a whole bunch of scumteams involving Sparking and he had some spicy takes D2 when the potato flip happened which I like in hindsight.

There's the sparking not being mafia thing btw, in case anyone was curious. Personally, I haven't looked into any scumteam theories to think who would be maf with sparking, but sparking certainly isn't town.


the reason behind 'Crimson is not WW Bookie' is that if Crimson was NK, I assume he would have no reason to stay home N1, in which case ED would have seen a visit. It is then possible that ED is NE trying to signal to Crimson by not revealing their night action, but I find that unlikely. If ED is mafia or town, he would have no reason to lie about Crimson's visits.

the Jackson/Uzay scumteam was originally because I wasn't sure why Jackson wouldn't check Uzay's alignment, but that theory was kind of refuted since Uzay leaves no feedback to investigatives. Irrespective of that, I don't remember the two of them having any meaningful interactions, but I'll have a look into this.
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 3:11 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:I'll go ahead and claim as well, not that it will change much.

I'm a 1-shot Tracker, and I was gonna track Sparking N2, but Uzay apparently rb'd me so I had no results. Thanks Uzay.

I also happen to have WIM, so I'll read the last few pages for realsies and maybe do ISO-diving as well.

Does that mean you've lost your shot? That's unfortunate.
If you still have it, why did you claim?

I actually have no idea if I still have my shot, but I assumed I didn't because I 'used a charge' on Sparking and the standard is that I don't get it back
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 3:13 am

also I claimed because we now have claims by everyone so it might be easier to gamesolve
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 3:15 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:Jackson
3cheers
Sparking
Wabbit
2034
ninja
ED
Crimson
Evan

What's this list?

people alive
I was gonna cross out those that are not lynch targets/not scum probably, but phpbb doesn't let me use strikethrough :BlobSad:
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun May 24, 2020 3:16 am

3cheersforidiots wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:Jackson
3cheers
Sparking
Wabbit
2034
ninja
ED
Crimson
Evan

What's this list?

people alive
I was gonna cross out those that are not lynch targets/not scum probably, but phpbb doesn't let me use strikethrough :BlobSad:

You can just use colors
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 3:17 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:Jackson
3cheers
Sparking
Wabbit
2034
ninja
ED
Crimson
Evan

What's this list?

people alive
I was gonna cross out those that are not lynch targets/not scum probably, but phpbb doesn't let me use strikethrough :BlobSad:

You can just use colors

yeah but I didn't know I couldn't use strikethrough at the time
also it doesn't much matter now ig
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun May 24, 2020 3:24 am

What's the VC rn? Including uzay's vote
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 3:25 am

yeah Uzay has exactly 0 meaningful interactions with Jackson
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 3:25 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:What's the VC rn? Including uzay's vote

I think it's L-2 because of the unvote
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun May 24, 2020 3:25 am

3cheersforidiots wrote:yeah Uzay has exactly 0 meaningful interactions with Jackson

ngl I forgot they existed majority of the game
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:26 am

3cheersforidiots wrote:yeah Uzay has exactly 0 meaningful interactions with Jackson

at the tip of my mind they haven't made meaningful interactions as well
i'm considering them as w at this point even with little analysis
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun May 24, 2020 3:26 am

3cheersforidiots wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:What's the VC rn? Including uzay's vote

I think it's L-2 because of the unvote

Yeah, but like the people on it. I'll check it soon I will hammer after I get the time to say what I need to say.
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun May 24, 2020 3:27 am

TheWabbit wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:yeah Uzay has exactly 0 meaningful interactions with Jackson

at the tip of my mind they haven't made meaningful interactions as well
i'm considering them as w at this point even with little analysis

Considering who as wolf? Me or Uzay?
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:28 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:yeah Uzay has exactly 0 meaningful interactions with Jackson

at the tip of my mind they haven't made meaningful interactions as well
i'm considering them as w at this point even with little analysis

Considering who as wolf? Me or Uzay?

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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun May 24, 2020 3:28 am

TheWabbit wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:yeah Uzay has exactly 0 meaningful interactions with Jackson

at the tip of my mind they haven't made meaningful interactions as well
i'm considering them as w at this point even with little analysis

Considering who as wolf? Me or Uzay?

uzay

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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:29 am

it's like

having no way to determine you're dead (and town/mafia) became a slank cover for them
i get that you're not supposed to try that much given that this is GIM but uzay having almost zero thread presence is just wolf
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun May 24, 2020 3:31 am

TheWabbit wrote:it's like

having no way to determine you're dead (and town/mafia) became a slank cover for them
i get that you're not supposed to try that much given that this is GIM but uzay having almost zero thread presence is just wolf

I think that they're probably worth a PL but like I also think that this isn't what I remember their scum meta being. You'd have more knowledge of that than myself probably
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby 3cheersforidiots » Sun May 24, 2020 3:32 am

@Jackson why did you check 2034? And when did you do it?
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Re: SFM72 | GIM Mick | Day 4

Postby TheWabbit » Sun May 24, 2020 3:32 am

i don't think i care enough to ISO and probably even PbPA uzay at this point
just >rand wolf and lynch them if there are no bigger targets
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