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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby Yosh1123 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:26 pm

hey guys it's me again the most active player

idk how this works tbh
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby Yosh1123 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:32 pm

nvm i got it
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby 2304 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:36 pm

dota2reporter wrote:did some lazy reads

JacksonVirgo 2304
AcidicBreeze - T
UzayAltay - T
kosmo16 - T
EqsyLootz - T
dota2reporter - T
TheDebil - T
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Chemist1422 - T
watchme1 - T
s0me0ne23 - T

you can ask stuff but they answers i give may be vague af

...so you're townreading 9 people already with no scumreads?
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby chitownmvp01 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:38 pm

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Not Voting: 2304, AcidicBreeze, UzayAltay, EqsyLootz, dota2reporter, crimson97, SparkingJayYT, Yosh1123, watchme1

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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby 2304 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:54 pm

Flake wrote:
2304 wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:did some lazy reads

JacksonVirgo 2304
AcidicBreeze - T
UzayAltay - T
kosmo16 - T
EqsyLootz - T
dota2reporter - T
TheDebil - T
crimson97
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Flake
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Chemist1422 - T
watchme1 - T
s0me0ne23 - T

you can ask stuff but they answers i give may be vague af

...so you're townreading 9 people already with no scumreads?

i don't see an issue

I didn't say there was

I'm just wondering how he doesn't even have a single sr
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:56 pm

because i havent been that involved in the game
plus townbuilding is much cooler than scumhunting and im much better at it
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:04 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:thoughts about what alignment picked what
Spoiler: N3 vig/Vengeful:
Scum probably always take vengeful here so they don’t have to be held accountable for vig shots, unless they’re planning on claiming VT or generally a deepwolf

Thinking for Town it depends on their playstyle, players like dota would take vig but players like eqsy would take vengeful

Either way if a vig shot flips on N3 I would break out the GH chart

1-shot vig/1-shot PGO:
Town probably always takes the vig here, it’s just better to have control on the shot, scum probably has more value on the PGO

I don’t think it’s explicitly spewing the slot scum that there doesn’t seem to have been a vig shot N1 but it’s something to keep in mind later

Also the GH chart is relevant here as well

Cop/1s redirector:
Town always takes cop, scum always takes redirector

Neither one really has comparable value for the other alignment, except as rolecop bait/style points

1-shot commuter/1-shot watcher:
Town + NK bait = commuter
Town + LHF = watcher
Scum + NK bait = watcher
Scum + LHF = commuter

probably

Doctor/Roleblocker:
Scum probably takes roleblocker here over doctor since town has a high chance of having KP

Town probably takes doctor if they prefer townhunting (players like dota), if they prefer scumhunting it could probably go either way

UB/Rolecop:
Town probably takes UB, scum could take either

Think UB has more scum value because a claim can justify a PR lynch

Neighborizer/FV:
Neighborizer always as both alignments

Jailkeeper/Tracker:
I’d lean Jailkeeper as either alignment, but either could be picked by either

Maybe town is a bit more likely to pick tracker?

you pick your role.before you get the allignment
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:05 pm

tbh i didnt put a T near sparking cuz he just didnt feel the same
sure he has content but that content doesnt feel influential unlike his town games
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:05 pm

TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:thoughts about what alignment picked what
Spoiler: N3 vig/Vengeful:
Scum probably always take vengeful here so they don’t have to be held accountable for vig shots, unless they’re planning on claiming VT or generally a deepwolf

Thinking for Town it depends on their playstyle, players like dota would take vig but players like eqsy would take vengeful

Either way if a vig shot flips on N3 I would break out the GH chart

1-shot vig/1-shot PGO:
Town probably always takes the vig here, it’s just better to have control on the shot, scum probably has more value on the PGO

I don’t think it’s explicitly spewing the slot scum that there doesn’t seem to have been a vig shot N1 but it’s something to keep in mind later

Also the GH chart is relevant here as well

Cop/1s redirector:
Town always takes cop, scum always takes redirector

Neither one really has comparable value for the other alignment, except as rolecop bait/style points

1-shot commuter/1-shot watcher:
Town + NK bait = commuter
Town + LHF = watcher
Scum + NK bait = watcher
Scum + LHF = commuter

probably

Doctor/Roleblocker:
Scum probably takes roleblocker here over doctor since town has a high chance of having KP

Town probably takes doctor if they prefer townhunting (players like dota), if they prefer scumhunting it could probably go either way

UB/Rolecop:
Town probably takes UB, scum could take either

Think UB has more scum value because a claim can justify a PR lynch

Neighborizer/FV:
Neighborizer always as both alignments

Jailkeeper/Tracker:
I’d lean Jailkeeper as either alignment, but either could be picked by either

Maybe town is a bit more likely to pick tracker?

you pick your role.before you get the allignment

what does that even mean?
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:05 pm

now whether scum fakes that is a different question
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:06 pm

dota2reporter wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:thoughts about what alignment picked what
Spoiler: N3 vig/Vengeful:
Scum probably always take vengeful here so they don’t have to be held accountable for vig shots, unless they’re planning on claiming VT or generally a deepwolf

Thinking for Town it depends on their playstyle, players like dota would take vig but players like eqsy would take vengeful

Either way if a vig shot flips on N3 I would break out the GH chart

1-shot vig/1-shot PGO:
Town probably always takes the vig here, it’s just better to have control on the shot, scum probably has more value on the PGO

I don’t think it’s explicitly spewing the slot scum that there doesn’t seem to have been a vig shot N1 but it’s something to keep in mind later

Also the GH chart is relevant here as well

Cop/1s redirector:
Town always takes cop, scum always takes redirector

Neither one really has comparable value for the other alignment, except as rolecop bait/style points

1-shot commuter/1-shot watcher:
Town + NK bait = commuter
Town + LHF = watcher
Scum + NK bait = watcher
Scum + LHF = commuter

probably

Doctor/Roleblocker:
Scum probably takes roleblocker here over doctor since town has a high chance of having KP

Town probably takes doctor if they prefer townhunting (players like dota), if they prefer scumhunting it could probably go either way

UB/Rolecop:
Town probably takes UB, scum could take either

Think UB has more scum value because a claim can justify a PR lynch

Neighborizer/FV:
Neighborizer always as both alignments

Jailkeeper/Tracker:
I’d lean Jailkeeper as either alignment, but either could be picked by either

Maybe town is a bit more likely to pick tracker?

you pick your role.before you get the allignment

what does that even mean?

when you do the draft you pick the roles first, after that you receive the rc
so stuff like that is not ai. you are more likely to pick what is good for town
unless you did something else when you rolled scum dota
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:07 pm

i would probably put flake as t and remove watchme/someone/eqzy
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby 2304 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:09 pm

TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:thoughts about what alignment picked what
N3 vig/Vengeful:
Scum probably always take vengeful here so they don’t have to be held accountable for vig shots, unless they’re planning on claiming VT or generally a deepwolf

Thinking for Town it depends on their playstyle, players like dota would take vig but players like eqsy would take vengeful

Either way if a vig shot flips on N3 I would break out the GH chart

1-shot vig/1-shot PGO:
Town probably always takes the vig here, it’s just better to have control on the shot, scum probably has more value on the PGO

I don’t think it’s explicitly spewing the slot scum that there doesn’t seem to have been a vig shot N1 but it’s something to keep in mind later

Also the GH chart is relevant here as well

Cop/1s redirector:
Town always takes cop, scum always takes redirector

Neither one really has comparable value for the other alignment, except as rolecop bait/style points

1-shot commuter/1-shot watcher:
Town + NK bait = commuter
Town + LHF = watcher
Scum + NK bait = watcher
Scum + LHF = commuter

probably

Doctor/Roleblocker:
Scum probably takes roleblocker here over doctor since town has a high chance of having KP

Town probably takes doctor if they prefer townhunting (players like dota), if they prefer scumhunting it could probably go either way

UB/Rolecop:
Town probably takes UB, scum could take either

Think UB has more scum value because a claim can justify a PR lynch

Neighborizer/FV:
Neighborizer always as both alignments

Jailkeeper/Tracker:
I’d lean Jailkeeper as either alignment, but either could be picked by either

Maybe town is a bit more likely to pick tracker?

you pick your role.before you get the allignment

In the first draft when I picked I got told my alignment before I picked...?
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:09 pm

2304 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:thoughts about what alignment picked what
N3 vig/Vengeful:
Scum probably always take vengeful here so they don’t have to be held accountable for vig shots, unless they’re planning on claiming VT or generally a deepwolf

Thinking for Town it depends on their playstyle, players like dota would take vig but players like eqsy would take vengeful

Either way if a vig shot flips on N3 I would break out the GH chart

1-shot vig/1-shot PGO:
Town probably always takes the vig here, it’s just better to have control on the shot, scum probably has more value on the PGO

I don’t think it’s explicitly spewing the slot scum that there doesn’t seem to have been a vig shot N1 but it’s something to keep in mind later

Also the GH chart is relevant here as well

Cop/1s redirector:
Town always takes cop, scum always takes redirector

Neither one really has comparable value for the other alignment, except as rolecop bait/style points

1-shot commuter/1-shot watcher:
Town + NK bait = commuter
Town + LHF = watcher
Scum + NK bait = watcher
Scum + LHF = commuter

probably

Doctor/Roleblocker:
Scum probably takes roleblocker here over doctor since town has a high chance of having KP

Town probably takes doctor if they prefer townhunting (players like dota), if they prefer scumhunting it could probably go either way

UB/Rolecop:
Town probably takes UB, scum could take either

Think UB has more scum value because a claim can justify a PR lynch

Neighborizer/FV:
Neighborizer always as both alignments

Jailkeeper/Tracker:
I’d lean Jailkeeper as either alignment, but either could be picked by either

Maybe town is a bit more likely to pick tracker?

you pick your role.before you get the allignment

In the first draft when I picked I got told my alignment before I picked...?

ok am i retarded
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:09 pm

oh i got it
yeah i did that but i picked 2nd to last so only picked between 4 roles
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:10 pm

TheDebil wrote:i would probably put flake as t and remove watchme/someone/eqzy

nah im not removing any of those 3
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:10 pm

dota2reporter wrote:
TheDebil wrote:i would probably put flake as t and remove watchme/someone/eqzy

nah im not removing any of those 3
undebatable

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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:11 pm

Flake wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
TheDebil wrote:i would probably put flake as t and remove watchme/someone/eqzy

nah im not removing any of those 3
undebatable

do u mind explaining watchme

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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby Yosh1123 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:13 pm

wait you guys got to know your alignment before you picked?

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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby 2304 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:17 pm

Yosh1123 wrote:wait you guys got to know your alignment before you picked?

bruh

I doubt that chit would do it differently for each player, and considering that's how I got it last game I'm assuming it's the same this game, so sorry but you're getting my /vote Yosh1123
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby Yosh1123 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:19 pm

well i can't prove that i didn't know it beforehand, but im kinda mad that i didn't know
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby Crimson97 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:24 pm

Hey look, the classic EoD CFD that always targets a townie and makes everything more difficult for town, can't have a game without it.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby chitownmvp01 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:24 pm

2304 wrote:
Yosh1123 wrote:wait you guys got to know your alignment before you picked?

bruh

I doubt that chit would do it differently for each player, and considering that's how I got it last game I'm assuming it's the same this game, so sorry but you're getting my /vote Yosh1123
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby Crimson97 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:25 pm

S0me0ne23 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:im fine with lynching me if eqzy hangs the next day and sparking/someone after

this is fake

You might be right.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby Yosh1123 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:26 pm

chitownmvp01 wrote:
2304 wrote:
Yosh1123 wrote:wait you guys got to know your alignment before you picked?

bruh

I doubt that chit would do it differently for each player, and considering that's how I got it last game I'm assuming it's the same this game, so sorry but you're getting my /vote Yosh1123
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Anyone who picked in the draft knew their alignment before picking.

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