VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby watchme1 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:19 pm

I'm getting mixed signals with eqsy/jackson interaction

On one end it feels like a svs theatre, but I'm more inclined to believe it to be tvt.

Here's a tinfoil -

Jackson!mafia told eqsy!mafia to post some reads about everyone since he knew people would look at eqsy in a bad way if he remained inactive. In doing so he also said to slip in some pr/vt reads as well to look like noob town. In doing so Jackson!mafia would then try to take control of an eqsy wagon and gain town cred for an eqsy!mafia lynch by using pr/vt reads as an excuse.

Of course this whole tin foil fails if one of them is town, cause I still don't see them being tvs
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:22 pm

watchme1 wrote:I'm getting mixed signals with eqsy/jackson interaction

On one end it feels like a svs theatre, but I'm more inclined to believe it to be tvt.

Here's a tinfoil -

Jackson!mafia told eqsy!mafia to post some reads about everyone since he knew people would look at eqsy in a bad way if he remained inactive. In doing so he also said to slip in some pr/vt reads as well to look like noob town. In doing so Jackson!mafia would then try to take control of an eqsy wagon and gain town cred for an eqsy!mafia lynch by using pr/vt reads as an excuse.

Of course this whole tin foil fails if one of them is town, cause I still don't see them being tvs

somethings off, but i don't know what.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:23 pm

would be a big meme if the mafia just played themself and its eqsy, jackson and s0me0ne.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby chitownmvp01 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:26 pm

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Not Voting: AcidicBreeze, UzayAltay, kosmo16, crimson97, SparkingJayYT, AlwaysNever

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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby S0me0ne23 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:27 pm

EqsyLootz wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:Thought gambling vernacular was fairly common in fm, or am I wrong?


I swear to fricking god if Im right about Jackson. Look Gambling. Well I'd stick to the read my biggest issue here is the fact that I know Jackson's meta and they arn't playing by said meta.

I don't know where you're getting this confidence but I don't buy it anymore.
/vote Eqsy


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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby S0me0ne23 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:27 pm

AcidicBreeze wrote:would be a big meme if the mafia just played themself and its eqsy, jackson and s0me0ne.

bold of you to assume i would be doing literally anything as a wolf here
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:29 pm

S0me0ne23 wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:would be a big meme if the mafia just played themself and its eqsy, jackson and s0me0ne.

bold of you to assume i would be doing literally anything as a wolf here

Of course that's why i fake defended jackson so there mafia buddies felt they had an excuse to also defend them.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby S0me0ne23 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:30 pm

watchme1 wrote:I'm getting mixed signals with eqsy/jackson interaction

On one end it feels like a svs theatre, but I'm more inclined to believe it to be tvt.

Here's a tinfoil -

Jackson!mafia told eqsy!mafia to post some reads about everyone since he knew people would look at eqsy in a bad way if he remained inactive. In doing so he also said to slip in some pr/vt reads as well to look like noob town. In doing so Jackson!mafia would then try to take control of an eqsy wagon and gain town cred for an eqsy!mafia lynch by using pr/vt reads as an excuse.

Of course this whole tin foil fails if one of them is town, cause I still don't see them being tvs

could be off, but for me, jackson's alignment is more or less inconsequential for eqsy, because i don't think scum!eqsy would be expecting jackson wagon to catch on here, and town!eqsy being wrong/right makes little difference
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby S0me0ne23 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:32 pm

AcidicBreeze wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:
AcidicBreeze wrote:would be a big meme if the mafia just played themself and its eqsy, jackson and s0me0ne.

bold of you to assume i would be doing literally anything as a wolf here

Of course that's why i fake defended jackson so there mafia buddies felt they had an excuse to also defend them.

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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby S0me0ne23 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:35 pm

Crimson97 wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:1) JacksonVirgo (Nullscum) Shows tendency to blend in however has semi-active posts which could lead to potential scum. (Or im just an idiot)
2) AcidicBreeze (Null) Overall... Did they talk?
3) UzayAltay (Null) I think they have a total of one post involving memephase and seems to be shadowing. Could lead to scummy actions.
4) kosmo16 (Nulltown) Personally they show signs of contribution. They give their best at activity and overall just seems trustworthy (More of a gut feeling)
5) EqsyLootz (Town)
6) dota2reporter (Townlean) Shows good sign of contributing and has a reasonable aspect when it comes to strategizing and reading others. last game they were more pushy as scum however this time they take their time to look as different possibilities)
7) TheDebil (Null) Debil is Debil. Like I struggle even understanding Debil half the time. They show tendencies of reading and being town but its 50/50
8) crimson97 (deadzone) I dont think they talked...
9) SparkingJayYT (Nullscum) Same as Jackson. They arnt playing like last game. Reading off of memephase and are trying to blend in.
10) Flake (Nulltown) Flake is actually being helpful for once. Being generally fun and contributive. I have high regards of them being Vanilla Town Cit.
11) AlwaysNever (null) Meh. they have a total of 0 Posts are are being on a forceful wagon to awaken them.
12) Chemist1422 (Null) I mean... I dont think they've done anything to stand out yet rather just have a little fun in memephase with others.
13) watchme1 (Nullscum) Same as Jackson and Jay. Their tendency to blend in is disturbing (Gut feeling)
14) s0me0ne23 (Townlean) Based on reactions and general posts from what I read they seem like Vanilla Citizen

Don't talk about whether you think people are vanilla/prs again. It's bad form.

Fully agreed here

Agreed but this probably means eqzy is town. Scum would say this stuff in chat first.

literally does not matter because it wasn't actually pr hunting in the sense of mafia pr hunting
both town and scum can have bad etiquette with respect to leaving cover etc so it really doesn't make a difference
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby S0me0ne23 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:39 pm

Crimson97 wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:Jesus half this game is getting prodged. One thing I know from experience is scum often tends to show semi-activity so Im on the lookout for that.
I never like having to think by myself thats why I chose neighborizer last game. And why Alwaysnever for a fake-wagon?

There's definitely scum among the active people.

It's not worth it to bother trying to figure out how scum are in active or inactive people. I always just assume it's a random distribution and go from there.

There is. With the amounts of activity this thread was having at first, i can almost guarantee one scum is trying to become town leader by being really active just like dota did before the game was rerolled. You are right in that we should assume a random distribution, for now, just because we don't have enough info.

that type of read is only actually worth something if you can spot a wolf trying to push themselves to be leader :)
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:16 am

watchme1 wrote::MonkaS:
TheDebil wrote:i think eqzy is scum, and his buddy is sparking whom he bussed
/vote eqzy
lets fight


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He's not only busing sparking in this case, he's also attempting to bus me and jackson ontop of it

sparking is the one hes.not commiting tp
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:18 am

watchme1 wrote: Spoiler:
EqsyLootz wrote:1) JacksonVirgo (Nullscum) Shows tendency to blend in however has semi-active posts which could lead to potential scum. (Or im just an idiot)
2) AcidicBreeze (Null) Overall... Did they talk?
3) UzayAltay (Null) I think they have a total of one post involving memephase and seems to be shadowing. Could lead to scummy actions.
4) kosmo16 (Nulltown) Personally they show signs of contribution. They give their best at activity and overall just seems trustworthy (More of a gut feeling)
5) EqsyLootz (Town)
6) dota2reporter (Townlean) Shows good sign of contributing and has a reasonable aspect when it comes to strategizing and reading others. last game they were more pushy as scum however this time they take their time to look as different possibilities)
7) TheDebil (Null) Debil is Debil. Like I struggle even understanding Debil half the time. They show tendencies of reading and being town but its 50/50
8) crimson97 (deadzone) I dont think they talked...
9) SparkingJayYT (Nullscum) Same as Jackson. They arnt playing like last game. Reading off of memephase and are trying to blend in.
10) Flake (Nulltown) Flake is actually being helpful for once. Being generally fun and contributive. I have high regards of them being Vanilla Town Cit.
11) AlwaysNever (null) Meh. they have a total of 0 Posts are are being on a forceful wagon to awaken them.
12) Chemist1422 (Null) I mean... I dont think they've done anything to stand out yet rather just have a little fun in memephase with others.
13) watchme1 (Nullscum) Same as Jackson and Jay. Their tendency to blend in is disturbing (Gut feeling)
14) s0me0ne23 (Townlean) Based on reactions and general posts from what I read they seem like Vanilla Citizen


A lot of gut reads which I personally hate. crimson and always never should be the same read cause they're both inactive af so far.

PR reading openly is a noob mistake as town and I've done that in XVIII unintentially so eqsy prob's town here.

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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:21 am

EqsyLootz wrote:
Jay out of Jackson and Watchme you are my last in POE I hope you do realize that im hard bussing jackson not you?

probably not a slip but haha
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:25 am

watchme1 wrote:I'm getting mixed signals with eqsy/jackson interaction

On one end it feels like a svs theatre, but I'm more inclined to believe it to be tvt.

Here's a tinfoil -

Jackson!mafia told eqsy!mafia to post some reads about everyone since he knew people would look at eqsy in a bad way if he remained inactive. In doing so he also said to slip in some pr/vt reads as well to look like noob town. In doing so Jackson!mafia would then try to take control of an eqsy wagon and gain town cred for an eqsy!mafia lynch by using pr/vt reads as an excuse.

Of course this whole tin foil fails if one of them is town, cause I still don't see them being tvs

what about me i started it
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby TheDebil » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:27 am

and once again fellas sparking pushes eqzy but does not commit fully with a vote
i dont think this is a coincidence
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:45 am

Struggling to find enough info here since no ones talking.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:53 am

I'll figure out some reads as the game progressions but i'm currently lacking anything of worth right now.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:53 am

Also feel free to ask me any questions, ill be available to talk for the next 7-8 hours or so.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:30 am

S0me0ne23 wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:/vote Uzay


This is very null. Explain.

Uzay is very underwhelming.

What do you expect from me when at 10 pages I can only have 3 TLs ?
Like all I can do as extra was saying all my townleans instead one.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:31 am

UzayAltay wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:/vote Uzay


This is very null. Explain.

Uzay is very underwhelming.

What do you expect from me when at 10 pages I can only have 3 TLs ?
Like all I can do as extra was saying all my townleans instead one.

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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:33 am

in all honesty you can pass, theres not enough info for me to gladiate you for info.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:35 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:I just realized analyzing votes on AN Will be probably waste of time
And AN used my one-or-none theory
And Kosmo's reaction to wagon was A bit Weird , thought it is probably NAI

A read can be made on the initiator of the AlwaysNever wagon who I believe was Dota?
If I can analyze only one person in wagon than it wouldnt be a wagon analyze.
And I dont remember Dota's post pinging me at any way when catching - up.
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:08 am

EqsyLootz wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
S0me0ne23 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:imo all the "underwhelming" arguments dont hold much water i personally also feel underwhelming but simply because of all of the confusion and wim loss

I wouldn't classify you as underwhelming.
Pushing a eqsy wagon would be a bolder play, regardless of whether it's correct or not.

wouldnt not doing anything be the bolder play instead of doing something wacky

No.
I have won many a game as wolf by just sitting back and laughing as town cannibalize themselves.


Thats what I do as wolf almost every game.
Especially when some Townies Push with no reasoning.
Honestly Debil I feel they are town due to cluelessness regardless of potential TMI

:Thonk:
Can You explain that sudden swift ?
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Re: VFM63 | Pick Your Power X/Y Take 2 | Day 1 Part 2

Postby AcidicBreeze » Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:09 am

i'll just be sitting here waiting for you to catchup uzay.
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