VFM-59: Spooks Abound - Canned

[ryanyb]

[VFM59 - A Spooky Spooky Wild Wild West]


No better introduction to a random ass halloween vigilante game than an over-engineered commercial for perfume.
On the real though, watch it. It's a cinematic beauty.

Rules and Mechanics
-All normal rules
-24/16 prod timers.
-All votes must be bolded.
-Day/Night phase will be 72/24.
-Lynches by majority/plurality.
-Tied wagons at end of day will be randomly decided.
-Mafia have day/night chat through discord.
-Mafia factional kills are mandatory
-Mafia factional kills are not assigned as there is no role which can track, watch, or roleblock.
-There is no functional n0, and as such cops do not have a n0 check.
-The only feedback is Sheriff/Rolecop feedback.
-There are no kill credits or rolecard flips.
--- example death feedback is: Ryanyb died, they reveal to be Town
--- or: Varanus died, they reveal to be Mafia.

Win Conditions
Town
Spoiler: You are a member of the town
You win when all members of the mafia have been eliminated.

Mafia
Spoiler: You are a member of the mafia and win when either:
A) nothing can prevent the number of alive town members from eventually reaching 0...
OR B) mafia reaches parity with town and no remaining town members have a day vigilante shot.


Rolelist
9 town:
-1 Doctor [No Vest]
-1 One-Shot Day Vigilante
-1 Sheriff with a one-shot Day Vigilante.
-6 Vanilla Town

3 Mafia:
-1 Rolecop
-1 One-Shot Day Vigilante
-1 Goon/Vanilla Mafia

Vigilante Mechanics
-The vigilantes may not shoot in the last hour of day.
-The vigilantes may shoot either "Publicly" or "Privately"
-To shoot privately, they may PM me the name of someone they wish to kill.
-To shoot publicly, they may say /shoot [shot-phrase and player]. If they wish the vigilantes may submit a shot-phrase to me before the game starts (or shortly after). They will then replace [shot-phrase and player] with their shot phrase.
-An example shot phrase from video mafia games (given we play in a video call chat room called a Zoom) is "Boom Boom get out the Zoom, Varanus". Something like that. Be creative if you want to.

Flavor:
The flavor of this game is LOOSELY Halloween/Western themed. Some of you have rolecards that are a bit more out there. There's some thread connecting it to halloween/western themes. But as some of you can tell from your rolecards, I really did go all over the place for this stuff.

SO: Don't talk about the flavor of your rolecard. For example, the doctor is some kind of doctor. And no one else has some kind of doctor as flavor. So like, don't talk about your flavor since the bad dudes have some sort of bad flavor, the good dudes mostly don't. You could "theoretically" confirm yourself with flavor, somehow. So seriously, just don't talk about it. I'll be watching like a hawk for people trying to soft confirm themself with flavor claims. The flavor is for shits n' giggles for you when you opened your roelcard and for post-game laughs. I don't care though if the mafia talk about their own flavor in their mafia chat. Just not speculating about others'.

All of you received the same message on your rolecards about using flavor arguments:

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Reminder, please do not discuss the flavor of your rolecard. The flavor in this game is non-standardized and has not been randomly assigned, and thus could be angleshot. Discussing flavor of your rolecard (hinting at it, softing it, etc) or openly speculating / requesting this from other players will be a violation of the angleshooting clause of the FM rules. Saying "Citizen" is fine. Saying "Oh I'm [insert your sub-title here]" would be bad. So don't.

Current Players

1. Google
2. Chemist1422
3. UzayAltay
4. dota2reporter
5. ejjinami
6. heytheregirl17
7. Phone0Ix
8. PolyesterHomes
9. Goose26
10. Watchme
11. MustacheMario
12. Flake

Alive Players

1. Google
2. Chemist1422
3. UzayAltay
4. dota2reporter
5. ejjinami
6. heytheregirl17
7. Phone0Ix
8. PolyesterHomes
9. Goose26
10. Watchme
11. MustacheMario
12. Flake

Replacement History

THE SPOOKY AF GRAVEYARD

• My free time

[ryanyb]

Welcome to Halloweentown. You're in for a ride.

Day One Begins ends in 72 hours at 11:32AM, CST

[Transcender]

spell gooose right

[Transcender]

yee
haw

yee
haw

YEE
HAW

[Transcender]

rng has decided your fate.
who is the victim? lets find out!

[Chemist1422]

hello

prepare for spook trouble! and make it double!

[Transcender]

hello

prepare for spook trouble! and make it double!

someones about to die, chemist
who do you think its going to be?

[dota2reporter]

i already have a demon as my avi

no need to change my stuff for halloween :sunglasses:

[UzayAltay]

A quick note about WW theory and how I will play this game. Note that the arguments and facts presented here are indisputable, and that I will not engage in arguments about them, because those arguments are you wasting everyone else's time about meta that is well and comprehensively established. Go make reads so we can read you.

I've reflected on my role and realized that there is a GTO play for me in this game, and therefore I am compelled to pursue it. I am going to brute force my clearness immediately upon the opening of the thread.

I am hard-claiming, I am the doc.

Benefits:

1. I will survive tonight: I do not believe the wolves are able to kill me tonight, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would ever do this as the doc. I believe that this decision reduces the importance of the doc cover to be provided by all of you to the point of it being negligible. The wolves have already been outplayed, as it were.

2. I'm lock clear: All of you already know I'm lock clear, because it is so objectively unlikely that I would do this as a wolf. You know this for at least two reasons. First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to wolf in that I've ever played in (except for turbos). I have no need to complicate my life, as a wolf, by open-claiming on thread open, when all Ihave to do is provide like a C-level wolf game to probably win. This is the rare instance where you literally know that I have a billion other options as a wolf, AND that I would pursue probably ALL of them before pursuing this. Second, I engage in FPS exceedingly rarely, which necessarily means that I *know* that this will look WEIRD and SHOCKING to you. There is no merit to a wolf play that instantly generates WEIRD and SHOCKED responses that I would be obligated to finesse and manage for the remainder of the game. As a villager, which I am, the burden is totally on you to not $#@! up and lynch me. Makes my life super awesome.

3. There are only 11 players you need to try to read, rather than 12: I have already provided a "free" check of me in a game with a mere 12 players. Our win equity is dramatically improved by my being entirely off the table for the entire game.

Conclusion:

The burden of sound reasoning is now entirely upon you. I am the doc, and thus a villager, and thus lock clear. The game is immediately simpler than it would otherwise have been, because of my decision. Now, let us enjoy that benefit and win the game.

Also, to preempt a lengthy and pointless discussion.

It is NOT dumb to ponder this post and convince yourself of its wisdom. That is your obligation as a villager, and I encourage you to think it over for as long as it takes to quell your (initially valid but ultimately unnecessary) concerns.

It IS dumb to, AFTER doing that pondering, conclude that I'm "neutral" or "wolfy." That is legitimately stupid, and I won't entertain it. ONE of the reasons it is a stupid conclusion is that the upside of this play as a wolf is absolutely DWARFED by the upside of this play as a villager. There is no equivalency between the EV gain for wolf-me in this position and villager-me in this position. They're universes apart. That means I wouldn't DO the poorer option of the two (by extension, wolf-me also wouldn't BELIEVE that I could convince the entire game of the truth of these assertions for the entire game, which as an end-game wolf I would have to believe if this strategem were to be worth pursuing). A SECOND reason that conclusion is stupid is that the EV bonus of doing this as a wolf is COMPLETELY DWARFED by me baseline wolf EV anyway. Anything that complicates my wolfing life is RIDICULOUSLY stupid for me to do, given that my wolfing life is ALREADY one of the smoothest, highest expectation wolfing lives in WW history anyway. A THIRD reason that conclusion is stupid is that you would probably have to worry about being EXPLOITED by this gambit in order to get there. However, I have NEVER engaged in this, or any similar, gambit in my entire career, meaning that if there IS exploitation to be had with this play, it is in FUTURE GAMES, not this game. For these reasons, pressuring me is extremely wolfy and should not be engaged in by any villager, ever, in this game. There will be no less productive pursuit than that in this game.

Sucks for the wolves when meta is wielded this brutally, but my allegiance is plain and my strategy perfect. Get #rekt.

[dota2reporter]

@google rng told me it's ejji

nooooo

edit: what the hell???

[dota2reporter]

@google rng told me it's ejji

nooooo

edit: what the hell???

not edit, but you get what i mean. i got ninjad by uzay's giant post

[Transcender]

@google rng told me it's ejji

nooooo

edit: what the hell???

lets find out.

[dota2reporter]

ohh lol it's the copypasta

at first i thought it was legit written by uzay

[Transcender]

and I was hoping theyd be dead before they posted.

[dota2reporter]

and I was hoping theyd be dead before they posted.

so it's me or uzay then?

anyway imma go continue reading the book i'm supposed to be reading right now

[Transcender]

hi gooose uwu
I took you out of the pool of shooting as well as mario for being madlads
especially you

[heytheregirl17]

hi I'm spoop

[UzayAltay]

Also Btw noone should react Google's shot claims
They may be A Mafia try to test reactions

[Gooose26]

spell gooose right

Nobody ever remembers the 3rd o lol

Also, not sure whether that's a copypasta or not, but either way Uzay is spewed town unless their is a counterclaim for Doctor. If it's a copypasta though, then it means less because he put a lot less time into this play than meets the eye, but that's still not anything to stop him from being spewed at this point.

[Transcender]

Also Btw noone should react Google's shot claims
They may be A Mafia try to test reactions

ryan should react :3

spell gooose right

Nobody ever remembers the 3rd o lol

Also, not sure whether that's a copypasta or not, but either way Uzay is spewed town unless their is a counterclaim for Doctor. If it's a copypasta though, then it means less because he put a lot less time into this play than meets the eye, but that's still not anything to stop him from being spewed at this point.

its a copypasta
and this is meme phase
stop

[UzayAltay]

And Yes I wouldnt say that but Dota give A small reaction towards Google so I am worried sb less experienced can give A bigger one

[ryanyb]

Game Moderator Message: How about we not reference the moderator in the context of processing things that might or might not exist.
Thanks. This is the only warning this game will get on this subject.

[Gooose26]

hi gooose uwu
I took you out of the pool of shooting as well as mario for being madlads
especially you

Thanks bro

Also Btw noone should react Google's shot claims
They may be A Mafia try to test reactions

I think it's 10x more likely that he's memeing at this point. If it was a true claim, it would have been structured more like your Doctor post. In other words, it would have been more obvious/serious. Nevertheless, I'm going to ignore it more or less.

[UzayAltay]

Also Btw Google You are lucky to join that Game
There isnt A 13th player.

[Transcender]

hi gooose uwu
I took you out of the pool of shooting as well as mario for being madlads
especially you

;) Thanks bro

Also Btw noone should react Google's shot claims
They may be A Mafia try to test reactions

I think it's 10x more likely that he's memeing at this point. If it was a true claim, it would have been structured more like your Doctor post. In other words, it would have been more obvious/serious. Nevertheless, I'm going to ignore it more or less.

OBJECTION!
You misgendered me, making your point invalid!