SFM65 | RWBY FM | Game Over (Town Wins)

[watchme1]

Also its possible consort roleblocked the dead person

Why would consort rb the person they're killing

Anyways if no one else rb'd we can assume debil is consort trying to make some ml happen right?

Cause as far I can tell, there were two roleblockers n1 if Debil claims to have rb'd black and sparking got rb'd by another rber

there are either two roleblockers and the consort decided to pass out tonight to frame me/perform the kill
or
there is just me, so from my pov it confirms both jay as scum, and that there is a scum transporter

Eh first scenario is plausible until everyone checks in. And it also half confirms a framer as well
2nd scenario is low % to happen

[TheDebil]

oh yeah framer too
so we get to know a chunk of mafia compostition either way

[TheDebil]

Debil do you want to stop trying to play dumb?

sorry to tell you this but after all this fighting it might turn out that we are tvt

[TheDebil]

if first scenario is what happened watchme is scum

[JacksonVirgo]

This may be my first game I actually played, but these are my reads so far. Anyone I missed is a null read, or forgettable since they don't speak often.

Eqsy - Scum Lean: The way they've been speaking in the private chat and in day chats seem either too passive/beta-like as well as instantly throwing heat on both Multi for not voting (even though they did) as well as throw heat on my by constantly saying that 'You could be given a fake flavor'.
Michael - Scum Lean: No matter how many people suspect them of being scum, they don't defend themselves at all, they seem to completely ignore the fact they are being targeted completely which isn't very townie, maybe to hopefully have it slide past and not be noticed.
TheDebil - Town Lean: Even though shade was thrown onto them, I feel that they're fairly townie and even if they're not, it's a 50/50 shot of being Mafia so I tend to give them my trust.
Sparking - Town Lean: For the same reasons as Debil, I feel a goddamn lucky ass framer almost lynched us two Town.
Watchme1 - Town Lean: Not sure how exactly to put this into words but they've been acting fairly townie amongst all thee days, so I tend to trust them.
Chemist - Scum Lean: They've been really odd, and haven't revealed much outside of being an apparent JOAT. Could be a combination of other scum roles that allow them to fake it, or just a day killing evil faking JOAT. Not sure. Notice when they shot for the first time, they used '/shoot x' but when they faked shooting they used '/dayvig x' saying "Used it up" or whatever they said.
Xlranet - Town Lean: They seem townie enough.
Flake- Town Lean: Considering I saw Flake as a TvS with Wabbit and favored Flake (and was correct hehe), I tend to stick to that logic and I don't necessarily believe they're the SK because of probability and that shiz.

[JacksonVirgo]

Thoughts on my reads?

[Multiuniverse]

Is it just my noobness or is any person read as 'likely town' due to Wabbit interactions can equally likely be the SK?
Also there was no SK kill when Flake was redirected, not sure if there's a connection there but just lying stuff down on the table.

you do realise i was 99% attacked by SK, yes

so i literally cannot be SK

Or you could be lying
This isn't rocket science

[JacksonVirgo]

Push me up then

[Multiuniverse]

/vote eqsy

every single fucking thing they said that you say is scummy can be explained by them being noobtown, which they are

So we're gonna towncore this guy because "lol xd noobtown"
How long are we gonna excuse them for their behaviour? How long are we gonna let it slide by and call it "noobtown"

[Multiuniverse]

oh woe me
i blame yall for pressuring me to vote scorpio

eqsy/chemist/(sparking)/(michael)
is my list atm

I did say it was a shitty lynch also what do brackets mean?

Brackets mean maybe

[Multiuniverse]

i was attacked and healed. i was also redirected

Eqsy claims redirected N1 so they are most likely town unless Mafia wanted to fake it N1. But their PR claim during D1 makes it much more believable for why he was redirected.

You're implying the redirector is scum

[JacksonVirgo]

Push me up then

what kind of reaction is that?

im waiting for other people to check in so we can vote in Debil/Sparking personally

Y'all obviously don't like me and I would honestly laugh if my passive has the other (other being Eqsy for me, me for Eqsy) die if one is attacked.

I don't like Eqsy, I am just going to put this out there. I also don't like Chemist at all.

[Multiuniverse]

Spoiler: Chemist1422 - At first I was tring them, and then I had my doubts about his shot on black, then afterwards I feel like his reaction was towny, cause the play he made wouldn't really make sense as mafia in all honesty. Town read
Michaelgrook - Fluff d1, making me null sr him, then had some decent inputs later d2, but doesn't cover the fact their d1 was just flavor fluff. Null scum
JacksonVirgo - Vocal, made some decent reads and input, town lean
TheDebil - Escort or Consort, pretty solvable Later
ReveredHeroOfTOS - Was vocal initally but then just went afk, null for now
watchme1 - Yes
Phone0Ix - He had a case on Multi which I feel somewhat decent but went to being very mechanical here and there. I hate to say it but phone being mechanical is NAI (looking at 19C where he was purely mechanical and he was town)
Xlranet - Scummy initally due to intent on Multi, has made more towny posts as the days went past. One of the more vocal players as well. He's a town lean for now and subject to change (probs cause of my bias but whatever)
SparkingJayYT - Has made some really scummy replies especially to the whole debil/spark fiasco. ISOing him is just alot of one liners
Eqsylootz - Their posts are ??? and are pretty scummy, had them TR'd cause wabbit's last vote was on them but I'm kinda rescinding that read after rereading his iso, there's posts which are just not town motivated but I'm more leaning on the side of him just being inexperienced... Otherwise I'm really going to be fencesitty on this and say I have no clue and end with a null
EvilDeanius0 - Artful prodger, some okish posts. I've learned to not try to have a final read on him after 19C so null here
Flake - Not mafia due to wabbit, and 99.99% not SK due to his attacked/heal. Pretty much lock town in this scenario
Multiuniverse - lol ngl multi's made some pretty decent towny walls after being criticised of his opinion on esqy voting flake d1, but I have a hunch that some of his replys feel kinda off if you know what I mean. Some of their posts d2 were better however. I'm leaning towards town fuck it
OnlyShot - Recent posts feel towny despite being small in quantity. Town lean
0verki11 - Towny at first but lost prescence over time similar to revered. Null for now

Probs need to reevaluate, got 1 null scum, and a lot of nulls :\

@my read
No i dont know what you mean

[Multiuniverse]

Is it just my noobness or is any person read as 'likely town' due to Wabbit interactions can equally likely be the SK?
Also there was no SK kill when Flake was redirected, not sure if there's a connection there but just lying stuff down on the table.

you do realise i was 99% attacked by SK, yes

so i literally cannot be SK

Or you could be lying
This isn't rocket science

where was the sk kill then

If flake is lying then they prolly holstered

Anyway imo flake is telling the truth

[Multiuniverse]

/vote eqsy

every single fucking thing they said that you say is scummy can be explained by them being noobtown, which they are

So we're gonna towncore this guy because "lol xd noobtown"
How long are we gonna excuse them for their behaviour? How long are we gonna let it slide by and call it "noobtown"

your iso is garbage, most of what you call them out for is NAI so please get out of your head and look at facts

This is fucking mafia
There's no "fact" just opinions.

And if what i called them out for really is garbage then rebut my case
Then you can't even do that then back off

[Multiuniverse]

Spoiler:

/vote SparkingJay

Honestly i don't trust that claim tbh and regardless of your theories the vigi shot, Rb claim, Transporter it all leads somewhere and something is scummy bout it.

@Chemist did you shoot Sparking? Because Wth he says he wasnt transd or did you shoot Blackjack!? Because if you shot blackjack then that clarifies everything.

Also how does this clarify everything wtf.

Because im an absolute idiot.

/unvote SparkingJay

mechanically sparking is the best lynch, its a TvS with debil/chemist and sparking claims citizen whilst the other 2 claim town
my wim went down to 0 due to hosting a game soz

Im just confused however i don't trust his claim im just gonna wait it out. if it comes to 8/9 For Sparking ill vote him

Theory:
Debil chose to roleblock me last night as scum, right after I claim I was roleblocked. Blackajack wasn't transported but was framed and decided to make a push for a mislynch on me by making up a story of some sort of transporter transed me with Blackajack which would be fuckin stupid seeing as there is hardly any reason behind me and Blackajack being transported. They could then push Chemist tomorrow get another mislynch if Blackajack was framed and Debil would get away with 2 mislynches before dying.

My main theory for anyone that missed it

Here is what im thinking. This is a really good theory and it all makes sense so here is what im proposing. we all lynch Debil and if Debil shows up as town we lynch Sparking.

Theory:
Debil chose to roleblock me last night as scum, right after I claim I was roleblocked. Blackajack wasn't transported but was framed and decided to make a push for a mislynch on me by making up a story of some sort of transporter transed me with Blackajack which would be fuckin stupid seeing as there is hardly any reason behind me and Blackajack being transported. They could then push Chemist tomorrow get another mislynch if Blackajack was framed and Debil would get away with 2 mislynches before dying.

My main theory for anyone that missed it

Here is what im thinking. This is a really good theory and it all makes sense so here is what im proposing. we all lynch Debil and if Debil shows up as town we lynch Sparking.

That'd be my ideal choice of action, but will anyone actually agree to it? Probably not :/

Im going to take this risk. I will trust you for now and i will take the risk.
/vote Debil

This series of post is essentially what made me scumread eqsy today

In the first post you can see that he saw Sparking's theory and commented that it was "interesting" and was willing to lynch debil.

Then out of nowhere he took a hard 180 and voted Sparking.

He then explained that he thought that chemist took a nightshot not a dayshot and then unvoted sparking (though i have zero idea how he confused that and even if he did then how does that change his read on sparking?)

He then went on to reaffirm that he is willing to lynch sparking if it's L-1

Now here's where it gets interesting.

He quoted Sparking's theory again, the theory he commented on earlier, and this time said that it was very good. He then took a 180 and voted debil. After that he set up a chainlynch of debil -> sparking eventhough it isnt even a TvS.

This progression of 2 180's, an unvote that makes no sense, and a different stance on the same post in around 5 posts have 0 progression, makes no sense, and can only come from a scum whose sole purpose is to fake lack of information and set up a chain lynch.

Their final stance was scum!debil so it is also possible that they scumread sparking initially for towncred (that is if sparking is scum) and flip onto debil to save their buddy. Regardless if eqsy is scum then debil is most likely town.

I rest my case.

you think a scum would change their mind this much? i have been very unsure myself with this whole thing so a noobtown would definitely be confused. you think a mafia wouldnt have told him to think more about what they are doing and on who to focus on in this clash?

youre making it sound like they are lockscum and its absolutely bullshit, they are being open with what they think and i can relate to this confusion, you can go back and see my thoughts on this and its me jumping from sparking to debil to sparking

i dont see this scum being so open with fluff posts about their mentality at that time. youre trying to put them in a bad light but the entire case is NAI

Yes, indecisiveness is something town, not mafia, usually has. But my issue here isn't the indecisiveness itself but how fake it looks due to how frequent and abruptly it took place. There's also a lack of progression and reasoning which is ny main issue.

Wabbit died, who knows how many experienced player are left in the mafia. And who knows how many are online when they made the posts.
Furthermore perhaps it was the mafia who instructed him to be indecisive but he failed horribly.

I never said they were lock scum, im just saying that theyre extremely scummy in my eyes

Your jump weren't abrupt and doesnt lack progression

And lastly why cant scum fluff? Its not like all scum is a perfect town replica

[TheDebil]

i was attacked and healed. i was also redirected

Eqsy claims redirected N1 so they are most likely town unless Mafia wanted to fake it N1. But their PR claim during D1 makes it much more believable for why he was redirected.

You're implying the redirector is scum

eqzy claimed redirected?

[Multiuniverse]

i was attacked and healed. i was also redirected

Eqsy claims redirected N1 so they are most likely town unless Mafia wanted to fake it N1. But their PR claim during D1 makes it much more believable for why he was redirected.

You're implying the redirector is scum

eqzy claimed redirected?

Not sure, but with the issue of flake they're still claiming that redirector is scum -> flake is town which has a flawed logic

[TheDebil]

i was attacked and healed. i was also redirected

Eqsy claims redirected N1 so they are most likely town unless Mafia wanted to fake it N1. But their PR claim during D1 makes it much more believable for why he was redirected.

You're implying the redirector is scum

eqzy claimed redirected?

Not sure, but with the issue of flake they're still claiming that redirector is scum -> flake is town which has a flawed logic

yeah i get it

[TheDebil]

eqzy and flake both claim redirected then this is the following
sparking is town, rbed by consort
there is a framer/ chemist is scum lol

[TheDebil]

eqzy and flake both claim redirected then this is the following
sparking is town, rbed by consort
there is a framer/ chemist is scum lol

if

[Multiuniverse]

i was attacked and healed. i was also redirected

Eqsy claims redirected N1 so they are most likely town unless Mafia wanted to fake it N1. But their PR claim during D1 makes it much more believable for why he was redirected.

You're implying the redirector is scum

eqzy claimed redirected?

Not sure, but with the issue of flake they're still claiming that redirector is scum -> flake is town which has a flawed logic

tbh im locktowning them due to the redirecting + the doc heal, because both the redirect and the doc heal make sense with sk attacking them, and d1 clears them from being mafia

svs is a thing

[Multiuniverse]

youre making it sound like they are lockscum and its absolutely bullshit, they are being open with what they think and i can relate to this confusion, you can go back and see my thoughts on this and its me jumping from sparking to debil to sparking

i dont see this scum being so open with fluff posts about their mentality at that time. youre trying to put them in a bad light but the entire case is NAI

Yes, indecisiveness is something town, not mafia, usually has. But my issue here isn't the indecisiveness itself but how fake it looks due to how frequent and abruptly it took place. There's also a lack of progression and reasoning which is ny main issue.

Wabbit died, who knows how many experienced player are left in the mafia. And who knows how many are online when they made the posts.
Furthermore perhaps it was the mafia who instructed him to be indecisive but he failed horribly.

I never said they were lock scum, im just saying that theyre extremely scummy in my eyes

Your jump weren't abrupt and doesnt lack progression

And lastly why cant scum fluff? Its not like all scum is a perfect town replica

1) i dont see it looking fake. maybe thats where we disagree
2) they were like this d1 tbh so wabbit not being here is redundant in my eyes, and i doubt there isnt any experienced players left in the mafia just from the playerlist
3) i feel like this is a push, eqsy from the grouping game was saying stuff in the thread without thinking about it and just saying what came off the top of their head as town, so their meta disagrees with that this was instructed
4) ok sorry, it sounded like they were lockscum to you with how you entered into the thread today
5) id say activity had value with my jumps butthats fair, but i pointed out my jumps to show that i understand their mentality with being unsure
6) they fluffed with hardly any info apart from their own reads, they couldve built on others to help their mafia but they just seem lost with their late reads and input. if someone was to fluff as scum itll be over stuff that doesnt matter, e.g. any offtopic talk which has gone down

1. Explain why you dont think its fake
2. Meh
3. Eh, i never played with them so i have zero meta knowledge on them. Also meta cant be used on someone who never rolled scum so keep that in mind
5. Ok but while your jumps feel genuine his doesn't
6. You're assuming that scums are perfect

[Chemist1422]

at this point sparking and debil are lock TvS unless someone else was rbed or consort didnt roleblock tonight

Yep that’s me

That’s me

[Chemist1422]

I would have caught two mafia if I hadn’t been blocked by the way so thanks