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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Night 4

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:31 pm

From associations I believe it's within (juck, yurkin).
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 1

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:33 pm

Seththeking wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Pool exclusion part 2

Dota: He is in his town meta Imo, and I felt their AtE was genuine.

Uzay: Following dota's read.

Aleph: They're too much in the picture and could get some suspicions for their playstyle, which I think mafia wouldn't risk.


Possible Phone/Aleph Scum Team?


See above as to why.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Night 4

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:40 pm

There are posts from Seth which can be interpreted as Juck being scum as well as yurkin being scum. The time they bring up Phone is in one of their fake scumhunting posts. I don't think it was an attempt to distance but rather the same thing they did to you (Uzay/Debil). So I'll interpret it at face value as it meaning Phone(Flake) is town.

We can mislynch once and therefore the game is solved.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Night 4

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:45 pm

It'd be pretty ballsy for the second alien to be within (Debil/Uzay). They'd probably win if that were the case and I'm perfectly fine with that.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Night 4

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:54 pm

I don't follow what you mean with the first sentence.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Night 4

Postby UzayAltay » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:30 pm

Seth either was setting Juck as mislynch , Actually pocketed Juck , both of This two or Juck is scum.
If Juck is scum , it is an Okay Game for me ( 2/5 Scum correct ) , If no , bad .
Here is my problem
Chemist was mislynch Bait IMO , and Juck didnt vote Chemist .
So
I am unsure on Juck . Like I would lynch them If I was trusting myself , but I Dont .
Yurkin is possible , but I need A reread .Also We know ( or at least can guess ) Seth didnt make Night 1- 2 Kills , so I may redo my analyzes when my mind isnt burning
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Night 4

Postby UzayAltay » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:34 pm

PS - Juck scum is still A possibility .
If Juck/Seth couldnt guess Seth would die that quickly
They may went for The play that lynching Chemist later , and want to give impression that Seth was pocketing Juck .
And Yeah Juck has The ability doing it . I Dont know If they Did , but not rejecting that possibility , too .
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Night 4

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:28 pm

Flake wrote:only person i can confidently say never flips alien is aleph


Flake wrote:debil also basically never flips alien but i'm also not going to flat out write it off


If you can write me off for being Alien you can write off Debil and Uzay as well. Both of them had the entire day to try to move the wagon from Seth to someone else and they didn't.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:46 pm

/unvote
/vote yurkin
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby yurkin » Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:28 pm

Flake wrote:
Flake wrote:
yurkin wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
jucktropy wrote:
TheDebil wrote:actually juck here is an even better question

if you didnt even know if htg outed herself as vig, why did you assume poly was the shot?


what kind of retard scum shoots him with that horrible iso unless he outed good info

why not fml? i wouldnt say his iso was great either

nah im lying fmls iso was not bad
my point is
what kind of retard scum shoots htg with that horrible iso unless he outed good info
if htg was killed over anyone else clearly she outed because htg hasnt done much at all, unless she did have good info

i think you just faked a slip so no you dont get a townread
im not gonna say you are scum either because ive tried faking slips as town before but im paying more attention

HTG was the only pr town had. period

/vote yurkin

fyi.

the reason for the vote here.

"...the only pr town had..." likely comes from scum perspective, town is not likely to refer to themselves as "town" like that, town would be more likely to say something like "...the only pr we had...". the use of wording is more logical if referring to the alignment yurkin is not , therefore implying scum.

Man this look like such a stretch...
That I'm not sure to answer seriously or not
Wording can vary
Ye I'm referring as Town as being instead of alignment, context above explains why - because there's no discussion about someone's alignment, htg died

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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 1

Postby TheDebil » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:52 pm

AlephNull wrote:
Seththeking wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Pool exclusion part 2

Dota: He is in his town meta Imo, and I felt their AtE was genuine.

Uzay: Following dota's read.

Aleph: They're too much in the picture and could get some suspicions for their playstyle, which I think mafia wouldn't risk.


Possible Phone/Aleph Scum Team?


See above as to why.

its only one mention, i dont think this its more likelly that flake is town
its like he didnt know where to put phome and just put him in scumreads for a distance
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby yurkin » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:52 pm

Flake wrote:
yurkin wrote:
Flake wrote:
Flake wrote:
yurkin wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
jucktropy wrote:
TheDebil wrote:actually juck here is an even better question

if you didnt even know if htg outed herself as vig, why did you assume poly was the shot?


what kind of retard scum shoots him with that horrible iso unless he outed good info

why not fml? i wouldnt say his iso was great either

nah im lying fmls iso was not bad
my point is
what kind of retard scum shoots htg with that horrible iso unless he outed good info
if htg was killed over anyone else clearly she outed because htg hasnt done much at all, unless she did have good info

i think you just faked a slip so no you dont get a townread
im not gonna say you are scum either because ive tried faking slips as town before but im paying more attention

HTG was the only pr town had. period

/vote yurkin

fyi.

the reason for the vote here.

"...the only pr town had..." likely comes from scum perspective, town is not likely to refer to themselves as "town" like that, town would be more likely to say something like "...the only pr we had...". the use of wording is more logical if referring to the alignment yurkin is not , therefore implying scum.

Man this look like such a stretch...
That I'm not sure to answer seriously or not
Wording can vary
Ye I'm referring as Town as being instead of alignment, context above explains why - because there's no discussion about someone's alignment, htg died

that doesn't explain why at all, htg having died makes 0 difference to my argument

your wording vividly makes it look like you are referring to a group that you are not in, that group being town

i don't think this is a stretch at all

Nice strawman you got there

I'm on the fence whether or not this makes Flake scum. Would town replacement really pick this post to focus on.

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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 3

Postby TheDebil » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:00 pm

Flake wrote:
Flake wrote:/vote yurkin

fyi.

the reason for the vote here.

"...the only pr town had..." likely comes from scum perspective, town is not likely to refer to themselves as "town" like that, town would be more likely to say something like "...the only pr we had...". the use of wording is more logical if referring to the alignment yurkin is not, therefore implying scum.

meh
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby TheDebil » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:10 pm

see its really hard to read phone because he barely posted and flake is always gonna do good unless hes meming continiuosly
i would almost say hea scum because he jumps into the game trying really hard, and seth just pushed phone once to bus him
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:16 pm

Yurkin's push on you yesterday though was completely garbage and their mention of yurking in a negative light is Null. 1>0.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:17 pm

AlephNull wrote:Yurkin's push on you yesterday though was completely garbage and Seth's mention of yurking in a negative light is Null. 1>0.

Fixed.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby yurkin » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:20 pm

Chuunibyou can bet has been completely inactive, so the alien played like lonewolf.
No wonder I couldn't make any real associations about Aliens

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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby TheDebil » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:20 pm

on the other hand phone wasnt active at all, and i feel in a situation like this he would atleast do soemthing
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:22 pm

TheDebil wrote:see its really hard to read phone because he barely posted and flake is always gonna do good unless hes meming continiuosly
i would almost say hea scum because he jumps into the game trying really hard, and seth just pushed phone once to bus him


I disagree. Some players just tryhard as town no matter what. And it's better to actually try to post your thoughts earlier than not. But I don't know Flake's meta.
The push on the specific wording is dumb, there are better angles to push it. But it's not enough to convince me to vote him.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:25 pm

If yurkin flips town which I don't expect to happen then after I'm dead you and Uzay can figure it out who's the alien between Flake and juck.
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby TheDebil » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:25 pm

im not exactly sure on flakes meta other than his reaction when being pushed, im just thinking in general. flake used to be a big tryhard but recently hes been a little more laid back
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby TheDebil » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:27 pm

im fine with voting yurkin ig since they havent done much towny at all either but there is still that 33% loss chance that scares me so im really paranoid sorry
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 5

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:29 pm

yurkin wrote:Chuunibyou can bet has been completely inactive, so the alien played like lonewolf.
No wonder I couldn't make any real associations about Aliens


Is this a joke post?
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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 1

Postby AlephNull » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:34 pm

Crimson97 wrote:
yurkin wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:So you admit to sheeping Dota? And that you'll blame him when i flip town even tho you decided to follow him? Very nice yurkin.

:FancyGlasses:

But will you flip town

Stop twilight posting 3p.


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Re: VFM58 - Area51 Anarchy - Day 1

Postby yurkin » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:39 pm

AlephNull wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
yurkin wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:So you admit to sheeping Dota? And that you'll blame him when i flip town even tho you decided to follow him? Very nice yurkin.

:FancyGlasses:

But will you flip town

Stop twilight posting 3p.


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About what?

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