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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby ChamAlien » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:38 am

Phone0Ix wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Qvapil wrote:From my experience the third slot is the one that dies n1, but I haven't played tos in years.

From actual experiments I and friends did, these are the statistics:
No.11 is most likely to die n1
No.6 next
No.14 next
No.1 next
No.10 next

Numbers 3 and 5 however survive N1 the most

Oh wow this is interesting thanks. I used to always watch no.3 as lookout because half the game visited them n1, or the werewolf did n2. This surprises me, I might be misremembering

3 usually doesnt survive to the end though

So it is indeed possible ww or others kill them n2, and I dont count them being visited. It is possible they are attacked alot n1 but healed by docs

Plus tis reseach was in coven maybe that changes things also

Hmm I don't think people go "Hmm since this is coven I will kill 3 instead of 11" :lol:
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby ChamAlien » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:39 am

Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

And you can die for this

/vote WhirlwindWarrior

It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)

It’s not opportunistic, they lied about their meta. I think that’s a scum-motivated move that could be used to defend themselves if they receive pressure.

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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby Whirlwindwarrior » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:40 am

Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

And you can die for this

/vote WhirlwindWarrior

It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)

It’s not opportunistic, they lied about their meta. I think that’s a scum-motivated move that could be used to defend themselves if they receive pressure.

I see now why you think it is scummy, but in my opinion it is NAI. Noveiia is a fairly new player and I think it is more likely to come from a townie that made a honest mistake (becuse scum is more likely to watch words, especially for a newer player)

We can agree to disagree then. If you see why I think it’s scummy, do you still think it’s opportunistic?
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby Phone0Ix » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:40 am

ChamAlien wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Qvapil wrote:From my experience the third slot is the one that dies n1, but I haven't played tos in years.

From actual experiments I and friends did, these are the statistics:
No.11 is most likely to die n1
No.6 next
No.14 next
No.1 next
No.10 next

Numbers 3 and 5 however survive N1 the most

Oh wow this is interesting thanks. I used to always watch no.3 as lookout because half the game visited them n1, or the werewolf did n2. This surprises me, I might be misremembering

3 usually doesnt survive to the end though

So it is indeed possible ww or others kill them n2, and I dont count them being visited. It is possible they are attacked alot n1 but healed by docs

Plus tis reseach was in coven maybe that changes things also

Hmm I don't think people go "Hmm since this is coven I will kill 3 instead of 11" :lol:

Same, but in coven I saw lots of same ppl online evertime I played. If they kill the same person usually, that might cause chabges. Becayse coven playerbase is smaller
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby Whirlwindwarrior » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:40 am

ChamAlien wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

And you can die for this

/vote WhirlwindWarrior

It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)

It’s not opportunistic, they lied about their meta. I think that’s a scum-motivated move that could be used to defend themselves if they receive pressure.

Are you the person in the signup's playerlist?

Quite likely.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby Phone0Ix » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:41 am

Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

And you can die for this

/vote WhirlwindWarrior

It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)

It’s not opportunistic, they lied about their meta. I think that’s a scum-motivated move that could be used to defend themselves if they receive pressure.

I see now why you think it is scummy, but in my opinion it is NAI. Noveiia is a fairly new player and I think it is more likely to come from a townie that made a honest mistake (becuse scum is more likely to watch words, especially for a newer player)

We can agree to disagree then. If you see why I think it’s scummy, do you still think it’s opportunistic?

Not anymore. But I don't see how Seth found your post townie and why he is playing outside of his meta
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby AlternativeAccount » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:44 am

Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

And you can die for this

/vote WhirlwindWarrior

It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)

It’s not opportunistic, they lied about their meta. I think that’s a scum-motivated move that could be used to defend themselves if they receive pressure.

Hmm... if that is the case why are they saying this antecedent to the pressure they might receive rather than during the pressure they might receive? I think it might be more accurate to say that they would be deflecting pressure before it could ever happen if anything, rather than defending against already existing pressure. It seems a very poor way of deflecting pressure to me, given it would likely incite the opposite of the desired result.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby ChamAlien » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:44 am

Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
ChamAlien wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

And you can die for this

/vote WhirlwindWarrior

It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)

It’s not opportunistic, they lied about their meta. I think that’s a scum-motivated move that could be used to defend themselves if they receive pressure.

Are you the person in the signup's playerlist?

Quite likely.

/vote Whirlwindwarrior You can't be believing scum lied about their meta to trick us... I mean people play here together, it's obvious if someone lies about their meta.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby AlternativeAccount » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:46 am

AlternativeAccount wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

And you can die for this

/vote WhirlwindWarrior

It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)

It’s not opportunistic, they lied about their meta. I think that’s a scum-motivated move that could be used to defend themselves if they receive pressure.

Hmm... if that is the case why are they saying this antecedent to the pressure they might receive rather than during the pressure they might receive? I think it might be more accurate to say that they would be deflecting pressure before it could ever happen if anything, rather than using it to defend against pressure once it is exists. It seems a very poor way of deflecting pressure to me, given it would likely incite the opposite of the desired result.

Edit. Apologies.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:43 am


Vote-Count 1.10



noveiia|2| Seththeking,Whirlwindwarrior
ChamAlien |2| AlbanixAnubibus , dota2reporter
Seththeking |1|Phone0Ix
Qvapil |1| watchme1
Whirlwindwarrior |1| ChamAlien




2/6 votes until majority


Not voting: Qvapil,noveiia,MrChuckleteeth,AlternativeAccount



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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby noveiia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:48 am

Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

Considering I have two dead chats on my discord I’m pretty sure I was. They could’ve posted it, it’s been a while, but I thought I was???
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby MrChuckleteeth » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:49 am

This thread.

You guys just love accusing/voting each other without trying to actually pressure someone into giving away whether they are scum or town.

Also I don’t know why essentially all of my posts were ignored, I thought I made a solid point..
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby noveiia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:56 am

MrChuckleteeth wrote:This thread.

You guys just love accusing/voting each other without trying to actually pressure someone into giving away whether they are scum or town.

Also I don’t know why essentially all of my posts were ignored, I thought I made a solid point..

You made a solid point about not claiming but Dota already claimed and we can’t really undo that. At this point it’s up to the PRs.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby noveiia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:59 am

noveiia wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

Considering I have two dead chats on my discord I’m pretty sure I was. They could’ve posted it, it’s been a while, but I thought I was???

Going through apparently I was killed at night, sorry I could’ve sworn I was lynched both games. I think I was almost lynched that game(?) without going through the thread.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby AlbanixAnubibus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:00 am

MrChuckleteeth wrote:This thread.

You guys just love accusing/voting each other without trying to actually pressure someone into giving away whether they are scum or town.

Also I don’t know why essentially all of my posts were ignored, I thought I made a solid point..

I think that's because we've decided not to talk about PR's anymore.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby Seththeking » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:10 am

AlbanixAnubibus wrote:I've been told that Seth's scumtell is his reads being correct. :P


That’s false, I got all scum right in Pokémon SFM (we’ll wabbit and ED)
But decide to kill my Town Read.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby Whirlwindwarrior » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:43 am

/vote unvote

Noveiia's explanation makes sense.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby noveiia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:01 pm

It was a genuine mistake. I was just looking through my discord’s trying to find my dungeons and dragons one for tomorrow and saw there were two deadchats.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:30 pm


It seems everybody is active :)
Nobody is prodded.




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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby ZSSDistortion » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:34 pm

I know I'm a bit late, but please refrain from discussing alts and who their mains could be as per Rule 5 of the FM Rules:

"5. You may not out alternate accounts of players for any reason unless the user in question has already outed their main publically."

Warnings will be going out soon as a result of this.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby Seththeking » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:57 pm

Whirlwindwarrior wrote:/vote unvote

Noveiia's explanation makes sense.


I voted them because they said it in past tenses as they aren’t Town this time.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby Seththeking » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:58 pm

Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

And you can die for this

/vote WhirlwindWarrior

It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)

It’s not opportunistic, they lied about their meta. I think that’s a scum-motivated move that could be used to defend themselves if they receive pressure.

I see now why you think it is scummy, but in my opinion it is NAI. Noveiia is a fairly new player and I think it is more likely to come from a townie that made a honest mistake (becuse scum is more likely to watch words, especially for a newer player)

We can agree to disagree then. If you see why I think it’s scummy, do you still think it’s opportunistic?

Not anymore. But I don't see how Seth found your post townie and why he is playing outside of his meta


Because he voted my scum Read.
However I realize now it wasn’t for the same reason but both our reasons were from the same post.
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby Phone0Ix » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:20 pm

Seththeking wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:
Whirlwindwarrior wrote:
noveiia wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:oh btw noveiia sorry for mislynching you in nfm65 xD

This is my third game. In the past two games I was town and I was lynched twice as town. Apparently I’m very scummy.

This is also a lie. They were Sheriff in 18B and weren’t lynched.

/vote noveiia

And you can die for this

/vote WhirlwindWarrior

It might be just me but this post feels oppurtinistic if that is the rigjt word (I believe that is what it means)

It’s not opportunistic, they lied about their meta. I think that’s a scum-motivated move that could be used to defend themselves if they receive pressure.

I see now why you think it is scummy, but in my opinion it is NAI. Noveiia is a fairly new player and I think it is more likely to come from a townie that made a honest mistake (becuse scum is more likely to watch words, especially for a newer player)

We can agree to disagree then. If you see why I think it’s scummy, do you still think it’s opportunistic?

Not anymore. But I don't see how Seth found your post townie and why he is playing outside of his meta


Because he voted my scum Read.
However I realize now it wasn’t for the same reason but both our reasons were from the same post.

So you town read somebody because you thought they were sheeling you..?
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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby ChamAlien » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:27 pm

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Re: VFM52 | FollowTheCop... or Not | Day 1

Postby Seththeking » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:35 pm

ChamAlien wrote:Town


Me or Phone?
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