18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby dota2reporter » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:16 am

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Soulshade55r » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:26 am

GJ mafia team I'm surpised you guys managed to do it with me and evil getting killed N1.
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:27 am

EvanManManMan wrote:Flake has never lost a game as wolf

Absolute fucking savage

I mean there was one on MU where he subbed out D2 and lost but that’s basically an asterisk
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Eragon1329 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:32 am

Flake wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:Also I was completely unspoiled so this is unbiased


Basically what I’m saying is, flake you were obvscum, but played well enough to distract the remaining town players from lynching you

This is essentially the correct take

Mafia was put in a horrible situation from D2 onward so I knew I needed to adopt a strategy which ensures our longevity, thus the strategy to psychologically manipulate others into not voting me

My mistake was to town read 0ver early on; it was difficult to anticipate that the lynch would converge to him so soon, but because of that the ties between me and him snowballed as the game progressed, thus I came up with the plan of a fake scum slip; had I not done that we almost certainly would have lost from there

Basically I made a mistake which snowballed and made me likely scum early on but my gameplan after that was efficient enough to distract the remaining town from being confident enough on me being scum


As long as you understand this you are free to go

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Helicooler » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:26 am

TheDebil wrote:when flake went "idk who shaingr even is" i had a bad feeling tbh but i just couldnt be bothered anymore and i didnt have a case for him, neither did seth or heli so all would happen is flake continiously screeching at me and prolly me getting lynched regardless lol

my case was you werent scum due to logic so flake was scum
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Helicooler » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:28 am

Multiuniverse wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:flake is a very good and convincing actor


To be honest dota, and I mean this with no offence intended, as I have respect for you as a player, I think you are a little paranoid, indecisive and gullible at times. I think Flake's acting was good, I don't think it was that convincing however (though I suppose I have some confirmation bias since I was spectating).

And I agree mafia did not deserve that win. If all of the remaining townies during the last day took at least some time to analyze Flake's posting pattern, his tone, his word choice, his focus, his apparent goal and his approach, I'm sure you could have seen through the acting. Multi was on the right track with their gut read, because Flake was (at least to me) screaming "I'm scum". And Olly did not make Flake's case any better, given they basically had the same approach to the game, if anything, that should have been the biggest tell that they were the scum. Especially on a hydra game where hydra heads can usually differ in playstyle/

Flake your posts were sloppy and spewed that you only cared about not getting lynched, not about actually finding who the scum was and getting them lynched. I lost respect for you because on top of that, you decided it'd be great to appeal to emotion by basically insulting anyone that disagreed with you or didn't choose to see your PoV.

If Dota/Betto and/or Multi/Goomba could have seen at least THAT much, you could have quickly figured out that Debil and Seth were town (because they were actually trying to gamesolve) and that Flake and Olly were scum.

Here's a hint: Mafia doesn't care about gamesolving because the game is already solved for them (well, except the PRs, which is why mafia PR hunts).

Another hint: Don't focus so much on meta reads. Any player that is aware of their own meta as any alignment makes meta reading, more often than not, a shot in the dark.

But I decided to thunderdome day 1, so take this post with a grain of salt.

Anyways, that's all I have to say about this game. Good night.


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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Helicooler » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:33 am

tl:dr-

never follow conftown.
ever.

I should of learnt this after the IC incident
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby jucktropy » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:37 am

Helicooler wrote:tl:dr-

never follow conftown.
ever.

I should of learnt this after the IC incident


WTF Are you saying I was Conftown and I was right
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Multiuniverse » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:37 am

Helicooler wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:flake is a very good and convincing actor


To be honest dota, and I mean this with no offence intended, as I have respect for you as a player, I think you are a little paranoid, indecisive and gullible at times. I think Flake's acting was good, I don't think it was that convincing however (though I suppose I have some confirmation bias since I was spectating).

And I agree mafia did not deserve that win. If all of the remaining townies during the last day took at least some time to analyze Flake's posting pattern, his tone, his word choice, his focus, his apparent goal and his approach, I'm sure you could have seen through the acting. Multi was on the right track with their gut read, because Flake was (at least to me) screaming "I'm scum". And Olly did not make Flake's case any better, given they basically had the same approach to the game, if anything, that should have been the biggest tell that they were the scum. Especially on a hydra game where hydra heads can usually differ in playstyle/

Flake your posts were sloppy and spewed that you only cared about not getting lynched, not about actually finding who the scum was and getting them lynched. I lost respect for you because on top of that, you decided it'd be great to appeal to emotion by basically insulting anyone that disagreed with you or didn't choose to see your PoV.

If Dota/Betto and/or Multi/Goomba could have seen at least THAT much, you could have quickly figured out that Debil and Seth were town (because they were actually trying to gamesolve) and that Flake and Olly were scum.

Here's a hint: Mafia doesn't care about gamesolving because the game is already solved for them (well, except the PRs, which is why mafia PR hunts).

Another hint: Don't focus so much on meta reads. Any player that is aware of their own meta as any alignment makes meta reading, more often than not, a shot in the dark.

But I decided to thunderdome day 1, so take this post with a grain of salt.

Anyways, that's all I have to say about this game. Good night.


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too little too late

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby jucktropy » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:38 am

jucktropy wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:flake is a very good and convincing actor


Nope shit actor obv he got found by me D3 And nobody qoute my posts to lynch him great


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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Chemist1422 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:40 am

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand how Flake plays wolf.
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby jucktropy » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:42 am

Chemist1422 wrote:To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand how Flake plays wolf.


I was 10 IQ and I understood :/

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Flake » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:46 am

Chemist1422 wrote:To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand how Flake plays wolf.

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Helicooler » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:51 am

Multiuniverse wrote:
Helicooler wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:flake is a very good and convincing actor


To be honest dota, and I mean this with no offence intended, as I have respect for you as a player, I think you are a little paranoid, indecisive and gullible at times. I think Flake's acting was good, I don't think it was that convincing however (though I suppose I have some confirmation bias since I was spectating).

And I agree mafia did not deserve that win. If all of the remaining townies during the last day took at least some time to analyze Flake's posting pattern, his tone, his word choice, his focus, his apparent goal and his approach, I'm sure you could have seen through the acting. Multi was on the right track with their gut read, because Flake was (at least to me) screaming "I'm scum". And Olly did not make Flake's case any better, given they basically had the same approach to the game, if anything, that should have been the biggest tell that they were the scum. Especially on a hydra game where hydra heads can usually differ in playstyle/

Flake your posts were sloppy and spewed that you only cared about not getting lynched, not about actually finding who the scum was and getting them lynched. I lost respect for you because on top of that, you decided it'd be great to appeal to emotion by basically insulting anyone that disagreed with you or didn't choose to see your PoV.

If Dota/Betto and/or Multi/Goomba could have seen at least THAT much, you could have quickly figured out that Debil and Seth were town (because they were actually trying to gamesolve) and that Flake and Olly were scum.

Here's a hint: Mafia doesn't care about gamesolving because the game is already solved for them (well, except the PRs, which is why mafia PR hunts).

Another hint: Don't focus so much on meta reads. Any player that is aware of their own meta as any alignment makes meta reading, more often than not, a shot in the dark.

But I decided to thunderdome day 1, so take this post with a grain of salt.

Anyways, that's all I have to say about this game. Good night.


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Like on the last day I've pointed out why Flake was bad but I second guessed myself after everyone else disagreed with me

hi I do exist and have you noticed that Im good late game


too little too late

a little to late for you to realise your read from earlier was correct and flake was throwing shit around to try to win

no
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Flake » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:01 am

Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand how Flake plays wolf.

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good thing i probably will not play like this as wolf ever again
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Flake » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:49 am

Helicooler wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:I know I know
Like on the last day I've pointed out why Flake was bad but I second guessed myself after everyone else disagreed with me

hi I do exist and have you noticed that Im good late game

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby dota2reporter » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:54 am

flake roll me mafia or predator when your next game is up :omegalul:
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Helicooler » Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:58 am

Flake wrote:
Helicooler wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:I know I know
Like on the last day I've pointed out why Flake was bad but I second guessed myself after everyone else disagreed with me

hi I do exist and have you noticed that Im good late game


I had all my reads but chemist right in transistor
I had you right here
and those are the two times I lived until late game
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Flake » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:02 am

Helicooler wrote:
Flake wrote:
Helicooler wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:I know I know
Like on the last day I've pointed out why Flake was bad but I second guessed myself after everyone else disagreed with me

hi I do exist and have you noticed that Im good late game


I had all my reads but chemist right in transistor
I had you right here
and those are the two times I lived until late game

having good reads isn't the only thing that makes someone good late game
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Flake » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:02 am

dota2reporter wrote:flake roll me mafia or predator when your next game is up :omegalul:

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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Flake » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:05 am

Flake wrote:
Helicooler wrote:
Flake wrote:
Helicooler wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:I know I know
Like on the last day I've pointed out why Flake was bad but I second guessed myself after everyone else disagreed with me

hi I do exist and have you noticed that Im good late game


I had all my reads but chemist right in transistor
I had you right here
and those are the two times I lived until late game

having good reads alone doesn't make you good late game

ebwop, worded badly before
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby EvilDeanius0 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:25 am

Soulshade55r wrote:GJ mafia team I'm surpised you guys managed to do it with me and evil getting killed N1.

Because the second best player in the game was also mafia and they carried instead of us.
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby TheWabbit » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:58 pm

uzay still mafia from my eyes
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Royee » Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:13 pm

TheWabbit wrote:uzay still mafia from my eyes

I can't blame you.
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Re: 18C NFMNFM - Game Over - Mafia wins!

Postby Seththeking » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:18 pm

Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand how Flake plays wolf.

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I knew he was Wolf.
But I didn’t like some things Dota said, then said “well whatever, he’s just not thinking clearly and moved back to Flake”
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