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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:48 pm

He probably had nowhere near as much fun as I’m having rn tho
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby kosmo16 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:14 pm

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kosmo16 wrote:17 hours and 15 minutes, left. I will have a busy day at work so I won't be available tomorrow for the most of the time. You can ask me whatever you want. I will go sleep and after 7 hours I will answer questions and vote.

there's no way you could have missed all questions I asked. Please, respond to them


I think I reaponded all. Which one?
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby kosmo16 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:26 pm

ejjinami wrote:Hey kosmo, could you tell me what you enjoy and don’t enjoy when playing scum?


Two things I love.
1. Puzzles, when you need to decide one by one what is a correct order of kills, who is, which PR. What to claim?
2. I remember when I once rolled Demon of Lust/Arsonist. I was so excited, loved that role, it was a deadly red-head beauty in my head. I think I even role-played a little bit in that game. But generally uniqness, you are the chosen one.

I don't like making silly mistakes which could be easily avoided. Once I was scumread literally for my very first post in the game and lynched... Yeah that was sad.
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby kosmo16 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:38 pm

ejjinami wrote:Ngl, I should normally feel stressed as heck. I’m not confident in lynching correctly at all but damn, for some reason I just feel so happy…
Kosmo, if you’re scum, I must say that you’re doing an amazing job… the tone is brilliant and you don’t forget to add seemingly spontaneous small town-tells here and there, like worry or hesitance.
Or all those pocket attempts where you praised me in a way that really freaking looks as if you’re paranoid
The funniest part of that is that there’s very little doubt in me that you would actually be able to fake that
I will not even be angry if I lose here


So you can probably see here that I will most likely vote Xlranet.

Vice versa. I honestly needed to put all pieces together. Night kills (mainly fwog), 21 pages of read on Sparking (wow). I am still not sure if you are trying to manipulate people or you are doing this without consciosness. Maybe, you will tell me after the game. If you put so much effort as scum, that's just impressive. And the last but not the least I think I couldnt stand losing to Xlranet.
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:40 am

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ejjinami wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:17 hours and 15 minutes, left. I will have a busy day at work so I won't be available tomorrow for the most of the time. You can ask me whatever you want. I will go sleep and after 7 hours I will answer questions and vote.

there's no way you could have missed all questions I asked. Please, respond to them


I think I reaponded all. Which one?

there were a lot of them
You just ignored them as you went, some possibly because I placed them in the middle of the posts.
I usually try not to do that because people tend to forget about the question after reading the whole thing… buuuut it might have happened a few times in here.
But now that I look through them, most of them have been answered anyway, despite the lack of quotes :/
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:40 am

What was your last scum/mafia game? You don’t play on any other forums, do you?
Damn, you haven’t played scum here for at least half a year
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:42 am

kosmo16 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:Hey kosmo, could you tell me what you enjoy and don’t enjoy when playing scum?


Two things I love.
1. Puzzles, when you need to decide one by one what is a correct order of kills, who is, which PR. What to claim?
2. I remember when I once rolled Demon of Lust/Arsonist. I was so excited, loved that role, it was a deadly red-head beauty in my head. I think I even role-played a little bit in that game. But generally uniqness, you are the chosen one.

I don't like making silly mistakes which could be easily avoided. Once I was scumread literally for my very first post in the game and lynched... Yeah that was sad.

Yeah, I remember that one… Someone even said post game that the only female who signed up rolled the only neutral + female role.
And hey, that means that the color I chose was spot on xD at least as far as my knowledge of colors goes... sweet
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby kosmo16 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:50 am

ejjinami wrote:What was your last scum/mafia game? You don’t play on any other forums, do you?
Damn, you haven’t played scum here for at least half a year


VFM38 and this is VFM60
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:53 am

kosmo16 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:Ngl, I should normally feel stressed as heck. I’m not confident in lynching correctly at all but damn, for some reason I just feel so happy…
Kosmo, if you’re scum, I must say that you’re doing an amazing job… the tone is brilliant and you don’t forget to add seemingly spontaneous small town-tells here and there, like worry or hesitance.
Or all those pocket attempts where you praised me in a way that really freaking looks as if you’re paranoid
The funniest part of that is that there’s very little doubt in me that you would actually be able to fake that
I will not even be angry if I lose here


So you can probably see here that I will most likely vote Xlranet.

Vice versa. I honestly needed to put all pieces together. Night kills (mainly fwog), 21 pages of read on Sparking (wow). I am still not sure if you are trying to manipulate people or you are doing this without consciosness. Maybe, you will tell me after the game. If you put so much effort as scum, that's just impressive. And the last but not the least I think I couldnt stand losing to Xlranet.

Fun fact, I remember thinking a lot of how to mention that “qvap probably wouldn’t want to lose to royee” in a roundabout way in my last scum game lol…
I think I either didn’t post it or Qvap did it first but in some sort of bad way cuz I remember it negatively.
/shrug

I disagree with it though. A loss is a loss, losing because of paranoia isn’t much different from losing because of being pocketed imo. I’ll probably hate myself in my next scum games for saying that lol

And tbh you’ll probably need to define manipulative for me to answer :/
I probably fill the criteria anyway but tbh I’m not entirely sure what exactly you’re talking about
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:54 am

kosmo16 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:What was your last scum/mafia game? You don’t play on any other forums, do you?
Damn, you haven’t played scum here for at least half a year


VFM38 and this is VFM60

VFM60 xD

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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:55 am

and damn, so I was right about this being ages ago
lucky you tbh
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby kosmo16 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:55 am

ejjinami wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:Hey kosmo, could you tell me what you enjoy and don’t enjoy when playing scum?


Two things I love.
1. Puzzles, when you need to decide one by one what is a correct order of kills, who is, which PR. What to claim?
2. I remember when I once rolled Demon of Lust/Arsonist. I was so excited, loved that role, it was a deadly red-head beauty in my head. I think I even role-played a little bit in that game. But generally uniqness, you are the chosen one.

I don't like making silly mistakes which could be easily avoided. Once I was scumread literally for my very first post in the game and lynched... Yeah that was sad.

Yeah, I remember that one… Someone even said post game that the only female who signed up rolled the only neutral + female role.
And hey, that means that the color I chose was spot on xD at least as far as my knowledge of colors goes... sweet


Yes, I like red. I would say you are blue, Xlranet yellow and myself probably black.
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:21 am

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I was thinking more about sth like that tbh

But yeah, fair enough
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:23 am

Pffffft, the people on the dead chat must be laughing their asses off
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby kosmo16 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:07 am

/vote Xlranet
Sorry, have no time to explain. If it's lose do be it
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:09 am

Bah
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:09 am

I'm conf town now
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:12 am

I was about to write that I've read your last games.... and that tbh it was a waste of time
The increase in wim and activity is large enough to make me think that it's more ralated to you not playing FM for a very long time than any sort of change in alignment
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:13 am

Aaaaaaaaa, there's not enough timeeeeee
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:20 am

Xlra should cross-vote btw
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:28 am

Hi dota
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:26 am

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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:48 am

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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:00 am

Ok, people are gonna hate me if all of this is wrong… but tbh I still think Kosmo should be the last scum
Considering her efforts and how well phrased her posts are, if she’s scum, I wouldn’t be surprised if she had also thought of faking emotions or leaving hints to stuff that people should town-read her for.
The first thing, I remember that pinged me about her was the way she just repeated a part of my read on sparking AFTER I posted it, in a way that would appear as if “she was obviously thinking of it the whole time”.
kosmo16 wrote:That you are reading the thread wrong? It's common. Usually scums are very not obvious and often it is 1 mistake that end the game for them. If you look at below post:
SparkingJayYT wrote:spark's scum slip

And how Sparking was overexplaining himself in this game and was careful to commit to his reads it's look like he was stressed.

I mean, I might be overthinking it but the interaction felt forced… Not as if she was reacting to my read as to sth new she agreed with, but as if she had read it, thought that she had to distance from spark and just wrote w/e to make it appear as if she wanted to lynch him.
kosmo16 wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:I would personally like a Kosmo/Sparking crossvote here. Don't vote yet though if so, just post your intent to do so if you need to


I agree with ejii's read on Sparking, really on point. But I think he really underestimates you, because do far you weren't under heavy preassure. How I usually read town people is based on their flash of genius moments. Ejii got one on Sparking, Xlra got one on me. Can't see any from you.

I also really didn’t like the fact that she pushed Jack right after saying that. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was just testing the waters or giving herself options in case it was still possible to still get a mis-lynch.
The way she pushed spark D3 was just really mild.

Also, spicy theory: Sparking wasn’t just inactive at the end of D3 but he just didn’t want to appear because the ties are randed and he couldn’t be sure if Jack would vote him or kosmo.
One of the last “real” reads Jack wrote itt was that “he wanted kosmo and spark to crossvote” so IF Kosmo really got lynched D3, spark would follow soon after.
Is this angleshooting? I don’t think it is
Aaaaaand I have no way to determine if it’s true lol…. I’m treating this as a fun tinfoil tbh
/shrug
Fun fact :/ there are a few other posts like this one…. But they’re more like, small, seemingly random posts, that provide town-tells or explanations that coincidentally negate what scum!kosmo should be worried about…
And it’s kinda freaking me out
I mean, they are either really coincidental or just really subtle manipulation :/

Same with her so called “reaction test”, when she pushed me for my read on spark being “weak”. It’s so freaking close to just being shade.
IF she really wanted to read me, not just shade and check if I can be lynched, I find it kinda weird that she’d try to anger me first before even reading my ISO or just trying to remember anything that happened the day before.


I don’t have a lot more time for explaining so I’ll stop there… IIIII’ll probably feel really dumb if all of that is just my paranoia but tbh that’s what I’m thinking of rn..

And Xlra seems…. A bit too relaxed to be scum in lylo ):
I mean, I know it doesn’t make sense but I don’t actually remember a situation where it would have happened before. Usually totally demotivated players, who don’t care about what’s going on, are town…

So yeah….. sorry
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Re: VFM60 | The Blind Forest | Day 4 (Approaching the End)

Postby ejjinami » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:01 am

I’ll wait with voting till right before EoD…. If Xlra doesn’t appear before EoD the lynch will probably be randed
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