RedHeadStepChild wrote:Flavorable wrote:The reason we need them on forum reports, is because they're forum reports. Those generally skip the juror queue and go straight to the judges, so to save time for said judges (who, believe you me, have more to do than just do forum reports every day), we need screenshots (that are unedited and uncropped) so they know what they're searching for. Our Judges work their butts off going through hundreds of reports a day, the forum reports are an added feature in case something needs their attention or a report couldn't be made in a game, so the Judges know what/who to look out for.
Not sure where you got that screenshots are not reliable, nor do I support the fact that you assume the Judges don't read the game logs. If you don't like the process of forum reporting, then don't do it, since it's not a necessity, it's an added feature.
As for reports on lobby spammers who then leave, simply put in the body of the message that it is a lobby spammer who left and Judges will generally send it through to (or discuss it with) an admin who will decide what to do with it.
I think you're misconstruing the use of the forum reports. If people get reported ingame, the reports will still get handled through juror queue even if you don't leave a forum report, especially since forum reports are generally not the first priority of Judges.
As for lobby spammers, you can still just post an unedited screenshot for those on the Report Player section, or, which if even easier, you can join the Trial Discord and send them there.
where do I get where screenshots are not reliable? because someone with a "GREEN" username Told me they were not! And no a lot of them do not read the chat logs. Why? its the same reason A LOT of reports go unseen or closed without judgement. because No one reads them properly or only focus's on that single report. .. Granted I am NOT saying all of them do it.. but a majority of them due. And Like you said, they have more and better things to do then to look through reports. My response to that is, if you do not want to take the time to do the job YOU VOLUNTEERED for, and do it correctly, do not even do it!.
Okay Since its not a necessity. But ONLY Since its not a necessity. Really? you and I, and everyone else knows that the in game reporting system is severely lacking. I had someone reported yesterday for some really sick shit and 2 people stood up for them and said NO DONT REPORT THEM THEY ARE JUST HAVING FUN THEY DIDNT MEAN IT..Are you kidding me?.... You really think that this forum is NOT a necessity? ...But since you are in a position of power, i guess you can keep telling yourself that.
Another question is .. why in the bloody hell must I join a discord server when we have this forum right here? one serious problem this thing has is that BMG utilizes WAY TOO Many social networks. between a forum, reddit, twitter, discord or whatever.. Stick to one and one alone. You do NOT need to have several different ones, Why? because things get posted on one, that do not get posted or are the complete opposite on another site. thats why. then the arguments come in, " well on discord it says this" or " on the trial reporting page it says this" or " it was reported on reddit but not here on this forum" do you see what I am getting at?
and its Not just lobby spammers, its hatespeech, multiaccounting, botting, inappropriate account names, harassment, soliciting...the list goes on. yet according to potheadprincess, some offenses arent severe enough to warrent them to be looked at by judges? since when is breaking any of the rules not severe enough to warrent a report?
I'm going to address you paragraph-by-paragraph.
Paragraph 1: One person does not encompass the entire mod team, and it is highly likely you misinterpreted them.
I would also like to congratulate you on having 24/7 surveillance on the entire mod team to know whether they aren't properly reading reports. Your omnipotence shall be noted for future references, and laughed at by yours truly.
It was stated that they have other things to do than forum reports,
like the actual judge, mod and admin queues. Not that they neglect anything. It's just that the Report Players sub-forum is usually lower-priority.
Paragraph 2: 2 reports to send a report through from in-game is not lacking. It's a precautionary measure if anything, to cut down on salt reports by not allowing one user to have complete power over reporting another. The Report Players sub-forum is a byproduct of the Trial System, not a necessity for it to run as intended.
Paragraph 3: BMG does not utilize, nor do they have jurisdiction over, every popular social media platform that houses the Town of Salem fan-base. They own this forum, and their Twitter and/or Facebook pages. The sub-reddit is fan-made, and by Reddit's own terms BMG wouldn't be allowed to run their own sub-reddit anyway because there's a hard emphasis on "fan-made." Every discord server is either fan-made, or in the case of Trial System, ran by people with power in the Trial System as a quicker and more efficient form of communication than this sub-forum.
Paragraph 4: You are free to blame BMG for that. The people who take part in the Trial System, as
you stated, are only volunteers. When they tell you something, they are the messengers and the enforcers, not the ones who make the rules and guidelines they are told to go by.
My apologies if this is blunt or rude, but it would seem the main issue here is you haven't got a clue how the report system works or is ran, nor do you have the omnipotence to make a claim that judges don't look at reports properly, as you have no communication with them outside of the forums where they aren't likely to regularly discuss what they're doing, when they're doing it, how they're doing it, and why they're doing it. (That's where the Discord Server comes into play.)
Before you attempt to call out Trial's mods, BMG or any other powerhouse on immaturity for my snide remarks, please note: I am no one, same as you. I'm held accountable for myself, with nobody above nor below me.