Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Purple998 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:55 pm

Joacgroso wrote:I've just edited the post, adding "win X games of X gamemode" and replacing "win with arso" with "win with NK (loop)" for witches. I'm sorry for the late update.
Also, the new achievements need names. Does anyone have any suggestions?


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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby qwertyuiopl » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:58 am

Win 1 game in Classic: Humble Beginnings
Win 50 games in Classic: Experienced
Win 1 game in ranked practice: gearing up
Win 50 games in ranked practice: Ready for Ranked
Win 1 game in ranked: Competitive Player
Win 50 games in ranked: Ranked Expert
Win 1 game in custom: Too Many Roles
Win 50 games in custom: Infinite Possibilities
Win 1 game in rapid mode: Think Fast!
Win 50 games in rapid mode: Gotta Go Fast
Win 1 game in all any: A Victor Amidst the Chaos
Win 50 games in all any: Master of Chaos
(Not doing vigilantics achievements because the game mode sucks and it really needs to be removed, and besides, I'm pretty sure nobody here has even PLAYED 50 vigilantics games.)
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby BasicFourLife » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:46 am

And finally, achievements should be displayed AFTER a game ends, so they can't spoil you the roles of certain players.


I feel like this is the most important part of this rework, BECAUSE many achievements spoil someone's role. For example if u don't have a achievement for finding mafia as Sheriff and u check a framed one you'll know they are framed or if u check urself as inv / cons you would know that u checked urself and who u were witched into / knowing if ur target was transed. Achievements are majorly broken
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Purple998 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:25 am

BasicFourLife wrote:
And finally, achievements should be displayed AFTER a game ends, so they can't spoil you the roles of certain players.


I feel like this is the most important part of this rework, BECAUSE many achievements spoil someone's role. For example if u don't have a achievement for finding mafia as Sheriff and u check a framed one you'll know they are framed or if u check urself as inv / cons you would know that u checked urself and who u were witched into / knowing if ur target was transed. Achievements are majorly broken




Yes, thats why I support this rework.

I think the medium's achievement are broken asf
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Joacgroso » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:58 am

BasicFourLife wrote:
And finally, achievements should be displayed AFTER a game ends, so they can't spoil you the roles of certain players.


I feel like this is the most important part of this rework, BECAUSE many achievements spoil someone's role. For example if u don't have a achievement for finding mafia as Sheriff and u check a framed one you'll know they are framed or if u check urself as inv / cons you would know that u checked urself and who u were witched into / knowing if ur target was transed. Achievements are majorly broken

Purple998 wrote:
BasicFourLife wrote:
And finally, achievements should be displayed AFTER a game ends, so they can't spoil you the roles of certain players.


I feel like this is the most important part of this rework, BECAUSE many achievements spoil someone's role. For example if u don't have a achievement for finding mafia as Sheriff and u check a framed one you'll know they are framed or if u check urself as inv / cons you would know that u checked urself and who u were witched into / knowing if ur target was transed. Achievements are majorly broken




Yes, thats why I support this rework.

I think the medium's achievement are broken asf

Thanks you very much for the support, guys! :D I hope BMG considers this some day.
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby shapesifter13 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:13 pm

These are some interesting ideas. I have added this thread into my listed of potential improvements for the future to review. :)
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Purple998 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:20 pm

shapesifter13 wrote:These are some interesting ideas. I have added this thread into my listed of potential improvements for the future to review. :)



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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby qwertyuiopl » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:28 pm

shapesifter13 wrote:These are some interesting ideas. I have added this thread into my listed of potential improvements for the future to review. :)

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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Joacgroso » Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:18 pm

shapesifter13 wrote:These are some interesting ideas. I have added this thread into my listed of potential improvements for the future to review. :)

Great! :D Thanks you for considering this.
Sorry if I have spelling mistakes. English is not my main language.
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby UzayAltay » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:13 pm

shapesifter13 wrote:These are some interesting ideas. I have added this thread into my listed of potential improvements for the future to review. :)


Finally ...

Good Job Joacgroso , you did it .
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Joacgroso » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:49 pm

I'm so happy right now :D
Sorry if I have spelling mistakes. English is not my main language.
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Shilster » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:36 am

shapesifter13 wrote:These are some interesting ideas. I have added this thread into my listed of potential improvements for the future to review. :)


wow

just wow

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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Joacgroso » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:55 am

Thank! :D
Sorry if I have spelling mistakes. English is not my main language.
I added a petition to my achievement rework!
Plese come and vote to support it!

If you have any suggestions related to achievements, please post them on my thread so we can suggest them together!
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:58 am

shapesifter13 wrote:These are some interesting ideas. I have added this thread into my listed of potential improvements for the future to review. :)

I hope it gets implemented soon after Unity is finished.

(Again future me here)
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Amythyr » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:24 pm

Just asking why is there a poll........................
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Joacgroso » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:42 pm

Amythyr wrote:Just asking why is there a poll........................

I was asked to add it so people could sign it as a petition.
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Jackparrot » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:09 am

I have a few:

As pirate win a duel against another pirate: Yarr nvm pirate is unique
As consig find an invest found ya bro!
As invest find a consig No more snooping
As mafioso kill a vigilante theres only room for one of us
As vigilante kill a mafioso justice has been served

Hope you can add them! :)
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Shilster » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:12 am

Jackparrot wrote:I have a few:

As pirate win a duel against another pirate: Yarr
As consig find an invest found ya bro!
As invest find a consig No more snooping
As mafioso kill a vigilante theres only room for one of us
As vigilante kill a mafioso justice has been served

Hope you can add them! :)


You can't duel another Pirate because Pirate is unique
No not another consig achievement
Lol it autoconfirms a consig as invest
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Jackparrot » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:17 am

Ill remove pirate achievement then
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:46 am

So I have few achievements ideas, also the Hypnotist achievement shouldn't be a loop since that is too role specific (hypnotizing a lookout)

Investigator: Successfully investigate an evildoer at night and have them get hung tomorrow (loop) - You can always count on me.
Sheriff: Successfully check an evildoer at night and have them hung tomorrow (loop) - That's my duty / Gotcha!
Bodyguard: Save a revealed Mayor from death at night - Over my dead body.
Godfather: Win a game with your Mafioso still alive - Under my command.
Mafioso: Win a game with your Godfather still alive - Loyal forever.
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Joacgroso » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:22 pm

Thanks you for all your suggestions!
Jackparrot wrote:I have a few:

As consig find an invest found ya bro! I'm not sure about this one. Invests are not as important as town power roles. Also, this could encourage consigs to waste a night checking the confirmed investigator. But you gave me an idea. I will add "find a transporter". Also, I will replace "find the mayor" with "find the unrevealed mayor"
As invest find a consig No more snooping Not sure either. Of course this wouldn't confirm the consig, since according to my suggestion achievements should be displayed after the game ends, but I don't see why there should be an achievement for finding the consig.
As mafioso kill a vigilante theres only room for one of us Mafioso has only a few achievements, so this is a good idea. The problem is that most of times the gf decides who to kill.
As vigilante kill a mafioso justice has been served There is a similar one in the post. "Kill the evildoer who killed you" is pretty much the same, IMO.

Hope you can add them! :)

BasicFourLife wrote:So I have few achievements ideas, also the Hypnotist achievement shouldn't be a loop since that is too role specific (hypnotizing a lookout) I made it loop because it's so specifiq that hypnotist should be rewarded every time they manage to do it.

Investigator: Successfully investigate an evildoer at night and have them get hung tomorrow (loop) - You can always count on me. Great idea, I will add it soon.
Sheriff: Successfully check an evildoer at night and have them hung tomorrow (loop) - That's my duty / Gotcha! Same
Bodyguard: Save a revealed Mayor from death at night - Over my dead body. Sounds nice.
Godfather: Win a game with your Mafioso still alive - Under my command. I'm not sure about this one, since there is already "win with all the mafia members still alive", but I will add it because gf has almost no achievements.
Mafioso: Win a game with your Godfather still alive - Loyal forever. Actually, this one already exist in the game. "Loyal servant: Win without dying or becoming the godfather".

I'll edit the post to add some of this. Keep sending your suggestions/feedback about the achievements! :)
Also, remember that the point of this thread is posting all the achievement-related suggestions here so they can be considered by bmg and don't get buried between all the other suggestions. So even if I don't add some suggestions, they still count as separate ideas that could be considered by BMG.
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby dyaomaster » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:23 pm

Suggestions:
For Forger, remove "Forge the mayor's will" and add "Forge an investigative role's will" or "Forge an Investigator/Sheriff/Psychic's will".

For framer, remove the "one game" in "Fool three players in one game (loop)", since there's rarely three Sheriffs/Investigators.

For Janitor, add "Clean the veteran"? Or does that promote gamethrowing a bit too much

For Executioner, why did you remove "Lynch your target twice"? Seems like a good achievement to make NE help Mafia/Coven.

For Arso and SK, either have both of them have an achievement for winning with others of the same faction, or neither.

For WW, make the achievement "have a KPN of 1 or greater". Exactly 1 is unecessarily hard.

And yeah.

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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby qwertyuiopl » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:30 pm

Joacgroso wrote:
BasicFourLife wrote:Mafioso: Win a game with your Godfather still alive - Loyal forever. Actually, this one already exist in the game. "Loyal servant: Win without dying or becoming the godfather".

I thought you could get that one if there was no godfather in the first place (as happens a lot in all any). I could be wrong though.
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Re: Achievement rework. (Added petition, please vote)

Postby Joacgroso » Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:37 pm

I've just edited the post, but I see there are more suggestions. Thanks you guys!
dyaomaster wrote:Suggestions:
For Forger, remove "Forge the mayor's will" and add "Forge an investigative role's will" or "Forge an Investigator/Sheriff/Psychic's will". Oh, I forgot to add "forge an investigative's will". I will add it. I don't see why "forge the mayor's will" should be removed, since the mayor usually has important information for the jailor, or even from other people if he started a whisper game before revealing.

For framer, remove the "one game" in "Fool three players in one game (loop)", since there's rarely three Sheriffs/Investigators. But framing 3 players in 3 different games is way too easy. Also, with so many RTs, it's not so unlikely, IMO.

For Janitor, add "Clean the veteran"? Or does that promote gamethrowing a bit too much I think it does. Also, vets don't usually have important information, unless they killed a townie in high elo.

For Executioner, why did you remove "Lynch your target twice"? Seems like a good achievement to make NE help Mafia/Coven. It seemed too luck-based/impossible for me (I know I added "lynch your target with 16 guilty votes", but that was a joke. Unless town gamethrows, you can't possibly lynch a revived players. And you can't make your revived target survive until lategame, since if he was revived it't because he was important, so evils would try to kill him. If he survives and evils decide to lynch him it's because of luck, not because of your skills.

For Arso and SK, either have both of them have an achievement for winning with others of the same faction, or neither. Eeh... both of them have that achievement. See "Knife team" and "burning brothers".

For WW, make the achievement "have a KPN of 1 or greater". Exactly 1 is unecessarily hard. I meant "1 or more", but I see I didn't make it clear. I will clarify it.

And yeah.

Edit: Darn, just missed you. thanks?


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Joacgroso wrote:
BasicFourLife wrote:Mafioso: Win a game with your Godfather still alive - Loyal forever. Actually, this one already exist in the game. "Loyal servant: Win without dying or becoming the godfather".

I thought you could get that one if there was no godfather in the first place (as happens a lot in all any). I could be wrong though.

I hadn't thought about that, you're right. I will edit it.
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