Whisper System Overhaul
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:37 am
Right now whispers are broken. Gathering claims through whispers (or even voting) makes the game incredibly easy for the Town, requiring almost no actual social deduction to solve the game mechanically. I have come up with what I believe is a easy way to fix many of these problems with a role list change, changes to a few roles, and the addition of an entirely new role, the Osservatore. This idea will completely remove whisper games, start to fix the Spy, and protect the integrity of the game's balance. It does overwrite some of the things that have been changed in updates over the past few years since this was first suggested, but this shouldn't be looked at in a bad light. Giving the Blackmailer the ability to read whispers, whilst not as ideal as the solution presented here, was a needed step in the right direction. Repealing these updates now whilst implementing a new whisper system should prove to cause no real problems. With that being said, I understand that a good amount of programming and bug-testing would be required to implement this into the game. However, that has never scared me away from making good balance suggestions before, and it will not this time. Now, without further ado, the Whisper System Overhaul:
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Role-list Change:
- No longer reads whispers passively
- Blackmailing now reduced to two uses
- Blackmailed targets cannot use their day abilities
- Blackmailed targets cannot speak on the stand at all
- Blackmailed targets must now wait eight seconds before changing their vote after it has been placed
- Now has a bug ability that works exactly like the Spy, except it sees all actions done to the target that night
Spy Changes:
- No longer sees Mafia visits passively
- Now sees whispers
- Now has a two-use "Stakeout" ability, which shows it all Mafia visits. To use Stakeout, the Spy must target itself at night (can be roleblocked or controlled)
Vampire Hunter Overhaul:
- Vampire Hunter changed to the Hunter, a Town Protective role that follows people and scares off those that wish them ill will
New Role:
- Added the Osservatore, a Mafia Support role that can watch people to see who visits them or follow them and see where they go
Investigator Change:
- Changed results to "Lookout, Osservatore, or Mayor", "Investigator, Consigliere, or Witch", "Sheriff, Forger, Executioner, or Werewolf", and "Bodyguard, Hunter, Godfather, or Arsonist"
Whisper System Changes:
- Whispers will no longer be shown publicly to the Town (no notification that somebody is whispering unless you sent or received a given whisper)
- Town roles can no longer whisper
- Roles that can read whispers (Spy/Osservatore) can no longer see the sender or the recipient of the whisper, only read the message
- The recipient of a message will see the name of the sender, meaning that sending a whisper to a Townie is instant death
Town Leader (Power):
- This suggestion currently does not call for Town Leader (aka Town Power) to be implemented; however, if it is, this suggestion could be used to accentuate it by giving a new Town Leader role the ability to whisper
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I think you will find that these changes fit nicely as a step down from removing whispers as a whole, and this is probably the only practical way to make whispers non-Town-sided. With that being said, give me your thoughts. Do you think the extra complexity of only scum being able to whisper isn't worth it compared to just axing whispers entirely? Do you want Town Leader to be added with a new TL role that can whisper? Are there any interactions I'm missing here?
Thank you very much, and I look forward to your feedback.
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Role-list Change:
- Jailor
- Town Investigative
- Town Investigative
- Town Protective
- Town Killing
- Random Town
- Random Town
- Random Town
- Random Town
- Godfather
- Mafioso
- Mafia Support
- Random Mafia
- Neutral Evil
- Neutral Killing
- No longer reads whispers passively
- Blackmailing now reduced to two uses
- Blackmailed targets cannot use their day abilities
- Blackmailed targets cannot speak on the stand at all
- Blackmailed targets must now wait eight seconds before changing their vote after it has been placed
- Now has a bug ability that works exactly like the Spy, except it sees all actions done to the target that night
Spy Changes:
- No longer sees Mafia visits passively
- Now sees whispers
- Now has a two-use "Stakeout" ability, which shows it all Mafia visits. To use Stakeout, the Spy must target itself at night (can be roleblocked or controlled)
Vampire Hunter Overhaul:
- Vampire Hunter changed to the Hunter, a Town Protective role that follows people and scares off those that wish them ill will
New Role:
- Added the Osservatore, a Mafia Support role that can watch people to see who visits them or follow them and see where they go
Investigator Change:
- Changed results to "Lookout, Osservatore, or Mayor", "Investigator, Consigliere, or Witch", "Sheriff, Forger, Executioner, or Werewolf", and "Bodyguard, Hunter, Godfather, or Arsonist"
Whisper System Changes:
- Whispers will no longer be shown publicly to the Town (no notification that somebody is whispering unless you sent or received a given whisper)
- Town roles can no longer whisper
- Roles that can read whispers (Spy/Osservatore) can no longer see the sender or the recipient of the whisper, only read the message
- The recipient of a message will see the name of the sender, meaning that sending a whisper to a Townie is instant death
Town Leader (Power):
- This suggestion currently does not call for Town Leader (aka Town Power) to be implemented; however, if it is, this suggestion could be used to accentuate it by giving a new Town Leader role the ability to whisper
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I think you will find that these changes fit nicely as a step down from removing whispers as a whole, and this is probably the only practical way to make whispers non-Town-sided. With that being said, give me your thoughts. Do you think the extra complexity of only scum being able to whisper isn't worth it compared to just axing whispers entirely? Do you want Town Leader to be added with a new TL role that can whisper? Are there any interactions I'm missing here?
Thank you very much, and I look forward to your feedback.