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Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 5:12 pm
by Kirize12
There will be a mafia button that appears during the night for every mafia member except for the Godfather:

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If you click this button during the night, your current night action will be changed to a kill. Once someone has chosen to kill, it is unclickable for the other mafia members unless they click the button again.

The factional kill can be roleblocked, even if the role performing it is normally roleblock immune. (i.e. consort can be roleblocked while killing, but not while roleblocking)

Mafioso also becomes it's FM Variant:

Spoiler: Each night you may choose 1 member of the Mafia to shadow. You will carry out their job that night on any target you wish.
You may only do this once per player in the Mafia.
Shadowing a Mafia Head role only grants you their specific passive(s). Night immunity is not applicable.
If a member of the Mafia dies you may permanently assume that role if you wish at any time.
You can communicate with your allies each night, for as long as they are alive.


Ambusher is unfortunately reworked or replaced, as mafia tactical can only function well if one person kills per night.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 5:14 pm
by cmitc1
YEEEESSS, I have been wanting to remove the mafioso, and let every mafia member kill for a while.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 5:15 pm
by Kirize12
cmitc1 wrote:YEEEESSS, I have been wanting to remove the mafioso, and let every mafia member kill for a while.

We can't just remove the Mafioso. Disguiser's already being removed*, and removing Mafioso will just cause imbalance.

Just replace it with something else, and rework the ability to match. Maybe FM's mafioso would work?

*P-EDIT: This post, made in 2016, was made in the context of a different time. Back then, Disguiser was an entirely different role that was going to be removed, one that could "switch positions" with the mafia kill and impersonate them. Due to last wills outing this role, it was put on the chopping block before it was replaced with what Disguiser is now. The current Disguiser, as far as I'm aware, is not going to be removed.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 5:14 am
by orangeandblack5
The correct title is "Mafia Tactical Kills", as per Met :P

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 5:17 am
by alex1234321
I support this change, but I do not think that a role should be removed. If they do remove Mafioso, which I support, it should be replaced with another mafia role, such as the Watcher. /support

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 5:54 am
by Technetium
I like the idea. But what happens if nobody clicks the button?

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 6:45 am
by orangeandblack5
Technetium wrote:I like the idea. But what happens if nobody clicks the button?

The GF kills.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 6:47 am
by Technetium
And what if the GF is jailed, how is the kill chosen?

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 6:48 am
by Megalomancer
Technetium wrote:And what if the GF is jailed, how is the kill chosen?


Then someone has to either do the kill or let it just not happen.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 6:49 am
by orangeandblack5
Technetium wrote:And what if the GF is jailed, how is the kill chosen?

Nobody kills then. Same as if there is no Mafioso and the GF is jailed.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 6:51 am
by Technetium
Hmm...that particular part I don't think I like.

Jailor being able to completely stop the Mafia kill, that is.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 6:53 am
by orangeandblack5
Look

You'd have to be an idiot or have a good reason to not kill whilst your GF is jailed

So this actually nerfs Jailor a lot

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 6:55 am
by Technetium
Wait what?

I thought you said if the GF is jailed nobody can kill?

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 7:06 am
by orangeandblack5
Was it not implied that nobody chose the button? If you weren't implying that, why ask such a question?

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 7:07 am
by Technetium
...

I wasn't entirely clear on the setup.

I am now.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 7:44 am
by Kirize12
The GF kills if no one chooses the button.

If the GF is jailed, someone's gonna have to choose the button or else no kill will occur.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 5:19 am
by JazzMusicStops
Tmw I get Ninja'd by a different thread entirely

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:34 am
by simabean
We could make Mafioso what FM has made of it, doing an action for another member. Makes it not a Mafia Citizen.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:14 pm
by Kirize12
This is in TG now. Yay.

when your bump button leaves you like

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:56 pm
by BPsycho2
Good job designing the button.

We'd have to give the Mafioso a night action, but it's good.

Also, recommendation:

If the GF dies without picking a new Godfather, people get to hit a GF button?

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:17 pm
by Odin1010
I like it. I imagine it will give out a notification in the Mafia chat whenever a member chooses to make the kill instead.

And Mafioso could become like how it is in FM where is completes the action for another member, or we could replace with a whole other role entirely

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:11 am
by Kirize12
BPsycho2 wrote:Good job designing the button.

We'd have to give the Mafioso a night action, but it's good.

Also, recommendation:

If the GF dies without picking a new Godfather, people get to hit a GF button?

What?

No, that's not how it works. Once the GF dies, he doesn't come back unless Mafioso becomes FM Mafioso or Amneisac gets buffed to remember unique Mafia roles assuming a non-unique Mafia role hasn't died yet.

The GF, upon death, stays dead. The Mafia now MUST sacrifice an action to kill.

I know it sounds bad on paper but this is a pretty big buff. (._. )

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:51 am
by CAPTAINPHASMA123
So make Mafia just like in FM? I would definitely want to see this in game. /support

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:16 am
by GRThess
Kirize12 wrote:
cmitc1 wrote:YEEEESSS, I have been wanting to remove the mafioso, and let every mafia member kill for a while.

We can't just remove the Mafioso. Disguiser's already being removed, and removing Mafioso will just cause imbalance.

Just replace it with something else, and rework the ability to match. Maybe FM's mafioso would work?


Disguiser is not being removed, he is getting some more power(which is currently vital, as you can easily spot them through the wills), by changing the way wills appear. I don't really remember how but you can check on the announcements.

Re: Tactical Mafia Kills

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:18 am
by JazzMusicStops
GRThess wrote:
Kirize12 wrote:
cmitc1 wrote:YEEEESSS, I have been wanting to remove the mafioso, and let every mafia member kill for a while.

We can't just remove the Mafioso. Disguiser's already being removed, and removing Mafioso will just cause imbalance.

Just replace it with something else, and rework the ability to match. Maybe FM's mafioso would work?


Disguiser is not being removed, he is getting some more power(which is currently vital, as you can easily spot them through the wills), by changing the way wills appear. I don't really remember how but you can check on the announcements.

The devs have said they're removing it